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good traction for your 60 ft.


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is that what a holeshot is?

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a holeshot is your launch. basically your launch off the line. most street ricers dont have one for ****, get a good holeshot (yay RWD) and youll own ALOT of things you shouldnt. thats why i think people should work on lsds, tires etc instead of intakes, or other 1hp power adders. it makes a big dif. trust me

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Crazy never heard it as that term b4.Some nice light weigh wheels are my next goal.Need to work on my suspension

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as far as modifications on the Si. theres word about putting Si heads on and integra LS block. the results turn out to be equal to the type R or GSR engines. its basically cheaper to do it this way rather than to get an actual Type R engine or GSR engine. i didnt think it would work because the Si is a 1.6, while the LS block is a 1.8, but somehow they said it works. of course they'll try ne thing to squeeze out as much as they can. but either way if he gets ne kind of swap done u will still have way more power and advantages HOORRAY for RWD.

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yeah LS/V-Tec makes a significant difference but I highly doubt he can get that done in a little over a week?

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themadscientist wrote:race him for doors. you can't really race him for paint. You could race him for seats, or the loser kisses the other ones ***. race him for valve covers! there you go!


hahaha, i like the valve cover idea, that way they have an excuse to go by a JDM valve cover in their choice of color!!!

-Dan

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BTW, a lot of the LS boys are putting GSR heads and TYPE R heads on their motors, i havent heard about the SI heads but im sure its been attempted, and yeah it makes a big difference...ill tell u wat u need to watch out for...the B20 VTECs (Honda CR-V motors with GSR/Type R internals/heads.) those are potent little things, let me tell ya...

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Spidey wrote:yeah LS/V-Tec makes a significant difference but I highly doubt he can get that done in a little over a week?


Money works wonders on time frames....:rolleyes

-Dan

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240sx2nr95 wrote:BTW, a lot of the LS boys are putting GSR heads and TYPE R heads on their motors, i havent heard about the SI heads but im sure its been attempted, and yeah it makes a big difference...ill tell u wat u need to watch out for...the B20 VTECs (Honda CR-V motors with GSR/Type R internals/heads.) those are potent little things, let me tell ya...

-Dan


Bah! Such things do not concern me!! I am EEN-VEEN-SA-BEL!!

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well then spidey, you should win. he was no car knowledge as far as im concern so if he does do anything to his car, then it's going to be done wrong.

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240sx2nr95 wrote:BTW, a lot of the LS boys are putting GSR heads and TYPE R heads on their motors, i havent heard about the SI heads but im sure its been attempted, and yeah it makes a big difference...ill tell u wat u need to watch out for...the B20 VTECs (Honda CR-V motors with GSR/Type R internals/heads.) those are potent little things, let me tell ya...

-Dan


thats funny. i herd diff. i herd frm an ac ls owner that the ls head was weapon of choice for the integra. he said that the ls was better set up for turbo and it was better for porting and boreing.

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themadscientist wrote:Pity not the chump, kick him in the sack proper.


Word to that.

That's what he gets for clownin' your primer.

Whup his a$$ - Then tell him there's an old man in Phoenix wih a 4200 lb. luxury car that'll race him to 100mph for pinkslips. (My kid would dig a free Honduh to thrash) :D

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ya, if he gets that head thing done ask him what his compression ratio is. or what type of ecu he uses. or how he maintains his level of gayness throughout the whole quarter mile without beating his own ***

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just check the engine code on his car to see that it is still a B16A(hope im right with that one). make sure he hasn't done a swap. It is doubtful, but none the less possible. just for your own safety...

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SilviaLuvr wrote:thats funny. i herd diff. i herd frm an ac ls owner that the ls head was weapon of choice for the integra. he said that the ls was better set up for turbo and it was better for porting and boreing.


The B20 block and LS block are basically the same. B20 is just a slightly bored out LS block. These blocks were not designed for the high rpms the B18C and B16A see. Plus if you dont build a LS-VTEC or a CRV-VTEC, you will have oil leaking everywhere and/or a blown motor.

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Yes I understand that type of engine swap is possible but is it possible to get that done over a week???

I forgot to mention I layed off him toward the end of the race (he thought he almost had me) But really I just let off the throttle. he caught and I beat him by a fender(but beacause I let off the throttle) So he wouldn't get too suspisious.

Today his car wasn't at school and when I asked him where it was he responded: "It's in the shop"

Me: What are you getting your nitrous bottles installed? (playing around)

Honda Guy: "Nope (laughed) I just need to pick up half a car"

so that basicly tells me he is getting something done.

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Maybe he is smart and getting an H22, but then again he could be stupid and get a geo metro engine

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Nismo1182 wrote:Plus if you dont build a LS-VTEC or a CRV-VTEC, you will have oil leaking everywhere and/or a blown motor.


That is quite incorrect. It is the qulity of the engine swap not building the motor up. people's motors leak because ther do a half *** job on the install.

The blocks on these motors are fine for reving, it is the head on these motors that are not made for high reving. The bottom end on the crv and ls motors do not have oil piston squirters as found on the vtec blocks.

also, the b16 a head is identical to the type r head except that it is not ported and polished and the intake manifold is ported as well.

putting a gsr head on a ls/crv block would net a high compression ratio than if a b16/b18c5 head were put on. The GSR head has a smaller quench (i think thats the word) area.

anyway i used to by a big honda guy so i just chimed in.

1. he will not have a ls/vtec swap in a week.2. I doubt he would have a turbo kit3. he could have a supercharger on but i doubt that4. if he has any power adder he would have a Nitrious setup, which is cheap and easy.

If your worried just raise your boost.

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up the boost a little, and this time dont let off at all, give him full fury. raise the bet and when your done make him kiss your paint. with the new cash buy some sweet tires :) and if he doesnt pay, sneak into his yard with a little black primer and do it up :)

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nah man, sneak into his garage with some pink spray paint... :D

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dont you get it. Its all about weight reduction. He is gonna be running half a car to save some weight. Damn ricers and their weight reductions. J/K

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ZERO wrote:dont you get it. Its all about weight reduction. He is gonna be running half a car to save some weight. Damn ricers and their weight reductions. J/K


hahahaha.

I'd like to see that done. Take SCC's SER that was like 1600 lbs and take it two steps further. Cut everything off below the steering wheel, then weld on a small axle right behind that. Next sit on hood and make new pedals. Kick everyone's butt in the quartermile

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This is ridiculous, no offense spidey, but some guy just posted a thread about what cars he could beat in his stock s13 and people were condemning street racing left and right. thats all i ever hear on this board, but it must be ok in this post because you have an sr20, and that HAS to mean that it will be a safe street race. Whats the deal with that? people are anti street racing, even asking for threads to be closed, until someone comes along with a turbo car, when in reality a guy with a 200+ hp sr powered 240 can do more damage and destruction than a guy puttin' along in his bone stock beater. Not that either arent very dangerous, its just easier to lose control when the tires are spinning through third gear. I'm I alone in my opinion here? Is everyone crazy? whatever, just my rant. dont kill anyone, take it to a track

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Ya, 1dollar has got the idea...but I was not sure where he raced he didn't really make it clear, for all I know it was on the Bonnevile salt flats... Spidey's post was thoroughly "entertaining" haha

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Yes street racing kills I am greatly aware of that, But were we race is only me and him if anyone gets hurt during this little event it would be either one of us and no one else to blame but our own negligent acts. Dont get me wrong I acknowledge your thoughts and opinions but its that one ignorant person who makes a fun, calm situation go bad.

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I bet you for 600 bucks, i can make his Si quicker than your car, and you all know how, and it wouldn't be the first time.

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Thats easy, Slash Spideys tires.

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rogue wrote:That is quite incorrect. It is the qulity of the engine swap not building the motor up. people's motors leak because ther do a half *** job on the install.

The blocks on these motors are fine for reving, it is the head on these motors that are not made for high reving. The bottom end on the crv and ls motors do not have oil piston squirters as found on the vtec blocks.

also, the b16 a head is identical to the type r head except that it is not ported and polished and the intake manifold is ported as well.

putting a gsr head on a ls/crv block would net a high compression ratio than if a b16/b18c5 head were put on. The GSR head has a smaller quench (i think thats the word) area.

anyway i used to by a big honda guy so i just chimed in.

1. he will not have a ls/vtec swap in a week.2. I doubt he would have a turbo kit3. he could have a supercharger on but i doubt that4. if he has any power adder he would have a Nitrious setup, which is cheap and easy.

If your worried just raise your boost.


Thats what I meant. If a LS VTEC or CR-VTEC isnt done right from the start, you will have nothing but problems.

The blocks rev pretty good, the LS redline is close to 7000. But the rods ratio is bigger on a LS/CRV block than on a GSR or B16A perfect ratio.

I owned a Civic for 5 years ;)

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AznRide wrote:I bet you for 600 bucks, i can make his Si quicker than your car, and you all know how, and it wouldn't be the first time.


Were talking about the resources he has available. If he has such resources (money, time, parts) then yeah it will be a pretty good race. But if all he can come up with is "NOS" then im sure Spidey can turn up the boost to compensate.


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