Hid's in a G50-How do I get rid of the headlamp inop message

[TBrack]

Yes I agree... I could care less about having HIDs... I just want a genuinely WHITE light to go with my white Q45. That would look awesome.

not all HID is blue ya know, they make it from 4k-10k. 4 is yellowish and 6 is pure white I believe.

when you buy HIDs there is always a choice of bulb color temperature...

[mxr662]

I have seen couple retrofits in the last week. A 2004 chevy truck and an older s-13 or s-14 looking car with pop up headlights. Both looked cheap due to the fact that the HID light appeared unfocused. They both were very bright, but lacked the classy look of the well focused hid projectors.

[Kiven422]

not all HID is blue ya know, they make it from 4k-10k. 4 is yellowish and 6 is pure white I believe.

5K is supposed to be right on the white. But its not true. I have a friend with 5K HIDs (he paid good $$$ for them too) on his RX-7 and they look blue. It seems that white might be just under the temperature of his HIDs but 4K is yellowish... maybe 4500k?

Also 11K HIDs are supposedly purpleish... they look more white to me than purple but they are too much of a clean and clear white with a blend of slight purple.

I guess temps and colors differentiate by brands.

I think I should check out some APC bulbs from Walmart. I wonder if they will work well on the Q.

[Haitian_King]

It's been said that the best bulbs for Q's are the Sylvania branded ones. I think that other brands can cause error messages and don't last as long.

[SpartanAir]

So what pin would you ground to make the message go away? Did anyone ever do this?

According to the FSM for a 94 Q on page EL-244, the headlamp relays are in the engine bay at E12 and E13 next to the relay box. Then franknitty said they are located next to the ignition relay to the right of the combination flasher unit at M22 and M23 on page EL-246.

Where should I be looking, and what would be the procedure?

Thanks.

[Infinitiguy19]

I won't argue with you there. Like I said before I hate the fact that it could be harming oncomers. Thats why I won't drive at night.

But man they look so cool!

The warning message is from the relays, not the bulbs.I ran mine without relays..............no message.

Or you could also check the headlight sensor too.

But as you have read HID are'nt made for non HID housings.

[Haitian_King]

Even if you get the Burtman Industries kit?

[Infinitiguy19]

Is this what your referring too: http://www.burtmanindustries.c...d_kit

Only cars that come with "factory installed" HID's are legal. Due to legality issues, this kit cannot be returned after installation.

[Haitian_King]

Yes. That's the one. I've been considering it as an upgrade. If it's not a good idea, I'll just buy whiter bulbs.

[Infinitiguy19]

Check out this topic if you want brighter lights: zerothread?id=388313

[SpartanAir]

Interesting...

Well I do have different headlights than the Q, so far the HIDs are working well, I've aimed them down to avoid any possible blinding. My headlights already point to the left as they are meant for driving on the left hand side. The later Zenki Presidents had stock HIDs. Until I can afford them ($1500 on yahoo japan) I'll try these. I can always go back until then.

In the mean time, I'd like to figure out how to eliminate the inop message. Anyone ever actually done this.

My inop message is in japanese; I had a similar one for the brake light. Personally I find these messages useless, as every other car I've owned doesn't tell you when you lose a bulb. I would just check them periodically all around the car. I'd like to eliminate the bulb messages, especially the headlight one because it doesn't go away.

[Infinitiguy19]

So some of the Nissan presidents that had the same headlight style came with HID's?

Just remove the sensor or read the EL section of the FSM to get a better understanding.

[Trumpkin]

The headlight message is an easy fix. You don't have to mess with any relays, pins, etc. If any one has HIDs and wants to know how to get rid of it in 5 minutes, let me know.

[Infinitiguy19]

Why not share with us all?

[SpartanAir]

I'd like to know as well. I was gonna email you but it's not listed. Care to share?

[Trumpkin]

Sorry, I didn't think anyone actually cared. What you need to do is wire in a load resister on each light. This simulates an actual bulb. You can buy them for $5 a piece. They are pretty easy to put in. But since they simulate a bulb keep in mind they get hot. They need to be mounted properly. Mine work great. No more signal and no messing around with the fsm or messing up your wiring harness. http://superbrightleds.com/tail-brake-t ... Everything you need is here. These folks were a huge help to me. I converted all my bulbs to led for brightness (my tail lenses are tinted) and clearness for my clear lenses. They even have turn flashers for led conversions. Directions are on the site on the install. Good luck.

[Trumpkin]

assuming you saw this? Ungratefuls! or maybe you want to tear into your harness?

[qship96]

Putting resistors inline with HID or LED bulbs in order to "trick" the bulb out sensor is a poor solution, as the resistors negate any energy savings.

[Infinitiguy19]

Yea but I doubt many people put HID's in to save energy, Most do it for the "Cool" factor or the better lighting.

Plus I doubt the energy savings would have any positive effect.

[qship96]

Energy savings would allow your alternator to work less hard- extending its life and saving a tiny amount of horsepower and fuel.

[jltibbs]

I did find a little trick that gets rid of the message until you use the headlights again. This only keeps the message off temporarily. The next time you use your headlights, the message will come back. I do this every time I park my car, unless I know I will be using the headlights soon.

Here you go. If you have your headlights on and the message reads "Headlight Inoperative", simply kick on the high beams and leave them on. Rotate the light switch back to cut all of the lights off. While you rotate the switch back, remember to keep the arm in the high beam position. The message board will read "OK". After that, the message will stay off until you use your headlights again. You can use parking lights without the message popping up.

[SpartanAir]

Oh wow I gotta try this! Thanks man!

[Trumpkin]

Putting resistors inline with HID or LED bulbs in order to "trick" the bulb out sensor is a poor solution, as the resistors negate any energy savings.

My previous post states the reason for led's. Energy is simply not a concern.

[Trumpkin]

Energy savings would allow your alternator to work less hard- extending its life and saving a tiny amount of horsepower and fuel.

LED's actually use less energy. Installing resisters pretty much equals it out. Are you stating that the more your alternator puts out the more horse power you lose? Are we talking like 5 or like 75hp? Can you post a dyno result from your post?

[Trumpkin]

Since installing my led's I haven't noticed any difference merging into traffic.Should I?

[SpartanAir]

Hmm, this trick didn't actually work for me...tried many times...I'm gonna have to try something else, like the headlight sensor.

[Trumpkin]

Can you post a dyno result from your post?

I guess that's a no?

[Trumpkin]

Energy savings would allow your alternator to work less hard- extending its life and saving a tiny amount of horsepower and fuel.

Please fact check then before making false statements. Thank you.

[maxnix]

So some of the Nissan presidents that had the same headlight style came with HID's?

Note my avatar!

[maxnix]

Please fact check then before making false statements. Thank you.

It's well known even by someone as unschooled in electroncis as I am that increased current load on an alternator requires more power. Analogous to regenerative braking in hybrids.