gutting, AIV removal, fun <now with valve cover refinishing!>

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

thank you very much sir!!! how long do you think doing a valve cover should take???? cuz i want to do it but seeing as how busy i (and others too) i am with work and what not, could i do it in a day???

Post by **midwestdrifter** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

i used a heat gun to get all that tar outta my car. grand total was 26lbs, not that big of a deal but im a geek what can i say. (in my head the car was so much faster)

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

are you talking about the dash or the tar??? how is the sound difference after you have taken all of that tar out??????? o what is the purpose of the tar???thanks

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

tar is to reduce road noise

Post by **civics91** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

nice i may need to do that to my car hmm is down what will it hurt

Post by **EnzoRWD** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

Hellion240sx wrote:thank you very much sir!!! how long do you think doing a valve cover should take???? cuz i want to do it but seeing as how busy i (and others too) i am with work and what not, could i do it in a day???

if u pick u a can of aircraft stripper to remove paint, and some degreaser to clean it, yeah it can be done in a day. stripping the paint is pretty quick, but then u have to do a lil sanding, and wait for the paint to dry.... not too bad tho. start at noon, paint it in the afternoon or evevning, set it over night, put it back together in the morning...-Enzo

ps i have yet to drive the car without the tar and interior. ill have to wait until spring to find out the results of that

Post by **midwestdrifter** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

yeah i was talking about the tar. it is really loud in the car when it is raining but thats it.

if you got a girl she wont like it very much, because she has to yell to be heard. but which is more important your car or the girl.

Post by **Charlie240sxt** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

So how would a sand balter do on the valve cover or just use striper and sand paper

Post by **yeswepromise** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

you know whats nice....when you have no carpet or sound deadening and the hot girl in the passenger seat couldnt care less. man i wish that one could have worked out.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

what do you mean by hurt???

Post by **MarkEmark** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

EnzoRWD--About how much (in pounds) of that "tar" do you figure you removed?

If you guys really want to save some weight--replace all glass with Lexan

Only problem is that it'll be incredibly expensive. But you'd save a LOT of weight....

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

where DO YOU get lexan?!?!?!?!? i found them cheap from one site but i cant remember what the site was anymore. sigh. like maaaad cheap too. anyone got any sites?

Post by **EnzoRWD** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

indeed. one of my windows is a bit scratched anyways. time for new ones~anywhooo, ill weigh the tar when i remove the rest of it. i dont know if its substaintial, but now i can sand and paint that nasty rust away....belt sander on valve cover - mmm careful ist really soft. it would work about as well as normal paper, that is to say, it wont get the numerous sunken places and the areas b/w the lettering.-Enzo

Post by **MarkEmark** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

Let us know when you weigh it Enzo, I'm REALLY interested in knowing how much weight you saved, specifically just from tar-removal.

[email protected]

I used a dremel tool when doing my valve cover to get around all the crazy areas. I first used about three applications of heavy-duty oven degreaser and scrubbed off all the crap. Then I took it to a bench grinder (with a soft wire wheel) which worked extremely well and did not gouge the cover at all (it's not THAT soft). Then I did a lot of hand-sanding.

Anyway, I suggest a dremel tool for getting around all the kinks/areas.

Valve cover-before cleansing:

http://www.eniety.com/pichost/...e.JPG

During:

http://www.eniety.com/pichost/...g.JPG

After:

http://24.59.109.135/pichost/p...r.JPG

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

yeah post the wieght on here let us all know

Post by **midwestdrifter** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

mine was a 90 fastback and the tar was 26 lbs. i would assume that the coupe would be the same.

Post by **spitz7985** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

hey enzo, i noticed that you do not have an upper timing chain guide. do you run one? because mine just busted in half and i'm wondering if i have to replace it or not.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

spitz: no its factory defect, it happens to all 240's. i dont have mine either. my friend threw his out on night after racing his car. if you go to order it they will tell you you dont need it. so don't worry about it.

Post by **89nissan240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

nice job on the valve cover man, looks like your off to a good start on that 240

. After seeing your post im thinking about doing the same w/mine. Did you notice any difference with the AIV removed?

Post by **89nissan240** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

and btw, im not driving mom's car? wtF????

Post by **EnzoRWD** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

spitz7985 wrote:hey enzo, i noticed that you do not have an upper timing chain guide. do you run one? because mine just busted in half and i'm wondering if i have to replace it or not.

errrr im not? w00t! that was the first time i opened her up, someone must have taken it out already. works for me! useless pos anyways...

-Enzo

Post by **spitz7985** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

Hellion240sx wrote:spitz: no its factory defect, it happens to all 240's. i dont have mine either. my friend threw his out on night after racing his car. if you go to order it they will tell you you dont need it. so don't worry about it.

the thing is, i'm not running a factory timing chain kit. i bought a replacement kit that came with an upper guide but no right side guide. if the piece broke in half, i would imagine it was doing something in there. the chain must push against it pretty hard. are high rpms safe without this piece?

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

damn you got me on that one ace...???? what do you mean right side guide???

Post by **Cam** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

When I parked my car for the winter this year, I decided to paint my VC. It wasn't filthy, so I just did a thorough degreasing and pre-sanding of the lettering before I put on three coats of hi-temp semi-gloss black. Then I sanded the lettering with some 800-grit and applied a single coat of hi-temp clear.

Before going back on the car, I heat cycled it a few times, increasing to 300 degrees for 60 minutes on the third cycle. After that, the clear layer darkened to a slightly goldish tint. I didn't expect it, but it looks good with the black. Here's a before/during/after pic, and an installed pic... more pics & info in my sig link.

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

what are heat cycles? pimp avatar btw. nice job too. after snading with 800 did you apply the whole cover with the clear or just the letters?

Post by **Cam** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

Two days after painting the clear layer (sprayed over the whole cover, not just the lettering) I heated the cover in the oven then let it fully cool three times, each a bit hotter and a bit longer. Temps and times are on my sig link on page ?3? and the process is supposed to set the paint and keep hot spots from discoloring the first time your engine heats up. Thanks for the compliments!

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

hey Cam, ur car is looks very nice and it seems that we have very similar upgrades and plans for our cars. what brand of hi-temp paint did u use for your valve cover? i checked ur site and it didnt say

Post by **MarkEmark** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

I guess no one was impressed with my VC. At least I was

I used high-temp (500*F) ceramic engine paint, called "ford blue," available at your local autozone.

I must admit, cam, your car is absolutely gorgeous. Oh so clean.And your cardomain site is informative and cleverly arranged. Good job!

Post by **Hellion240sx** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

i gotta remember that so when i paint mine, either blue or ornge most prob orange to go with my color scheme. well i am plannin on getting the blue greddy oil cover blue wires orange valve cover??? hmmm what do ya'll think?

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:24 am

whats a greddy oil cover?

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