GT-R vs ZR1

[adren77]

So I have a few coworkers that have been trying to convince me that Z06 is a better car than GT-R. Other than being faster in the straight line I showed them how much GT-R pwns Z06.

Now they are bothering me with some Corvette ZR1. Everything I looked up so far on the ZR1 indicates it's faster than the GT-R. ZR1 supposedly lapped Nurburgring 7:26 (vs 7:29 GT-R).

Somebody please give me some evidence that GT-R is better

[BrandAidDesignG35]

The proof is in the manufacturer. Chevy's blow, period. tell them that, let me know how goes.

[heliochrome85]

the zr-1 is the pinnacle of corvette development. dont you worry, there is a GTR v-spec coming out that should shed weight, and up power. 7:26...psshhhhh.

also, Corvettes are for douches OR fat white men. prove me wrong.

[nismogarcia]

true that what else does chevy have besides the corvette, the rest is trash, and go to your nearest chevy dealer they have corvettes stocked up , you think nissan is going to have those gtr's on their lot for long

[Jacko3]

Finally, ask for the cost of the ZR-1 compared to the GTR. Also ask them, if the ZR-1 can accomodate a stroller, 2 golf bags, and a baby sit, in its backseat and still be all powerful and mean on the tracks.

[smockers83]

Hey hey hey, I've always wanted a Corvette. I'm not fat or a bag of douche, a douche silo, or a douche space ship. Tell the rest of the world that the Corvette is trash and see what they say, although you'll probably get biased responses from the Italians.

[heliochrome85]

take a look at corvette owners. im not saying you cant like them, or even want them. im saying people who drive corvettes are usually, white, male, and fat, OR complete d-bags. since you dont drive a corvette, you dont fall into those generalizations.

[hsckris]

Wow, another GTR v. C6 thread... and this one is full of fail.

The proof is in the manufacturer. Chevy's blow, period. tell them that, let me know how goes.

Are you kidding me? This is a Nissan board, but you can't possibly be so ignorant as to think that in the modern automotive world a manuf. like Chevy blows all around. Its not 1995 anymore, where generally import reliability is amazing and domestic is crap.

They are different cars. The GTR gets the job done with extreme technology, development, etc. The Corvette gets the job done by having a good enough chassis with a freaking sledgehammer driveline.

As far as price, the GTR has been retailing for about $115-120,000 thanks to dealer markup and limited production (the real reason why there aren't a ton of GTR's on the lot). The Z06 sells for 70k$ (maybe even less?) out the door. The ZR1 should come in price wise at about what the GTR is currently (and probably will continue) to sell for.

As far as the owners, there are people on this board who don't fit that profile.

[heliochrome85]

what do you think the markup for that ZR1 will be? i doubt it will be sticker. While I want the USD automakers to succed, its a bit ridiculous to pit the GTR against the Z06. Once the ZR1 comes out, i suspect the GTR will perform competitevly, and the new V-Spec will take it to the next level.

[Jacko3]

One more question, though I see your point, can you fit a stroller, 2 golf bags, and a baby sit, in the backseat of the ZR1, and still be all powerful and mean on the tracks? The GTR can do this. I don't see a backseat in the ZR1. Some extreme soccer mums might want this possibility in their car. What do you think?

And you never know, might want to get busy in the backseat at some point---this is a back aching possibility in the GTR, but not for the ZR1.

[Slider4105]

One other thing Chevy has is the Chevy Small Block....everyone and their mother puts that in their car if they're looking for a V8....period.....

Also, the GTR and Vette, like hsckris said, are two different cars. How many pedals are in the GTR? and how many in the Vette? The Vette doesn't have all the electronic gizmos to make it go fast like the GTR, so driver talent is a huge factor.

The ZR1 is going to have less of a mark up because people will still be fawning over the GTR, and they will likely produce more of them than Nissan with the GTR.

Also, there's a reason why everyone wants a Vette, look at how it does in the ALMS and Le Mans. When you have such a huge cross section of drivers, it is very easy to have a lot of dbag owners. Compare it to say a rustang or any other car with huge production models and it will be the same thing.

[suby01]

there was a big debate taht i started about this before the GTR and Z06 and the GTR wins by far if i find the post ill let you know there were evidence on both the chevy forums that the GTR would win but the ZR1 there is no chance unfortuantly for the GTR.

[kdfja1]

GTR handles better than what ever chevy can possibly engineer PERIOD end of discussion. the Z06 the ZR1 well it has a V8 pushing a whole lot more HP thats where it makes up in lap times, if you never seen the Nurgburgme its not all corners after corners, theres huge straights that you can go 170mph +. its a 30km track you think the stock GTR can really compare with the ultimate buffed version of the Vette?

look at more tracks to compare these two cars that are more fair to both cars. If you watch top gear and seen the gtr stig lap time the GTR was just under a few cars you know such as the enzo and atom... i think the zo6 was the in middle of the rankings and the ZR1 would prolly not rank very well on that track either.

So please dont justify how well a car preforms on the data of one track.

[Slider4105]

So please dont justify how well a car preforms on the data of one track.

Then don't just rely on the TG test track. The GTR was set up for acceleration, it has really short gearing. That's why it can go around shorter tracks so well, and can out perform a lot of cars who have more power and less weight. The Z06 and ZR1 are faster cars in a straight line....PERIOD end of discussion. The Z06 hits about 207 and the GTR hits about 200. This is where the Vette makes up for the quick acceleration of the GTR. The ZR1 will be faster than that, hence why it can lap the 'ring faster than a GTR.

Besides, the GTR was designed from the beginning to destroy everything...hence why its so good. The Vettes are designed to be really cheap fun powerful cars, not world class supercars.

Don't be such a fanboi. Both cars are amazing, and it depends on what you want out of a car. Do you want to sit back and time after time be consistent with the aid of machines? then the GTR is for you. Or do you want the ability to change gears yourself and actually make a difference, then the Vettes are for you.

That being said I'd take the GTR if I had to use it as a DD what with a usable trunk and backseat, but I'd take a Vette as a track car because its cheap, easy to maintain, more driver satisfaction, and I wouldn't be afraid of breaking ****.

[MagicM]

Too much Nissan biased opinions complaining about how terrible Chevy is blah blah. A stock Z06 outperforms a Ferrari F430, for 1/3 of the price that should speak for itself. I agree that comparing both cars is like apples and oranges and they each have their own unique style. As for the comment on Corvettes are only for fat white people, Guess what, the Nissan GTR is will probably be driven by mostly Fat white people because those are the only people that can afford one.At the end of the day doesn't matter if the Vette or GTR is better none of you fan bois will have one and probably never will, you ALL LOOSE. ( except for the 1 person or so that does own one on this forum)

[Kenrik]

Ehhh I'll wait for the ZR1 to make the Z06 cheaper...

I always liked the Z06..

I think I would rather have a porsche anyway.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Good way to change the topic!!

I Think I will take the Atom over any of them... Plus that is the coolest car i have ever seen!

Oh yea i would put a thin layer of alluminum and a roof with wind screen! I don't want my face to look like a bikers from driving that fast!

DJ

[kdfja1]

Then don't just rely on the TG test track.

well i'm not saying the R35 is a better track car because its faster on the TG track i'm using it as a juxtaposition with the Nurburgring, showing that both cars have their own tracks that they are designed for.

And as much of a fanboi i am the R35 still handles better than any vette. Thats the whole concept behind the new R35, unparalleled handling with playstation technology. Dont get me wrong Vettes have their strong points also such as their monsterous engine.

Also in my opinion its not even a fair comparison to compare the ZR1 a fully tuned out vette to the first model of the R35. Why dont u compare the ZR1 with something more in its class lets say the M-speed R34 or even the Mine's R35. Wait till the new V spec to come out then do a fair comparison of these two "affordable supercars" (if the markup will ever go away.... )

[all G'd up]

I don't like Chevy's at all... But the ZR1 is the best Chevy ever made... That still, however, in no way means I would ever choose a ZR1 over a GT-R.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I really didn't like the GTR until i saw the top gear video... I really like it better and better!

DJ

[heliochrome85]

ist it because it doesnt have a 6mt?

seriously though, both cars are complete and utter S&M sex.

[heliochrome85]

to my mind, the GTR is like Go Go Yubari from Kill Bill

Sexy, but can kill you...

[G_whizz]

Agreed that there is too much hating here on the Chevy, the ZR1 is a hawt car ...PERIOD. You can't argue that it isn't, if you are, I would consider you to be an ignorant person.

At the end of the day doesn't matter if the Vette or GTR is better none of you fan bois will have one and probably never will, you ALL LOOSE. ( except for the 1 person or so that does own one on this forum)

^^^^ That statement I disagree with heavily, aside from what's shown in this thread, most here are not like the young 240 crowd...there are some successful and some up and coming professionals...who could easily afford a GTR in no time

[heliochrome85]

^^^^ That statement I disagree with heavily, aside from what's shown in this thread, most here are not like the young 240 crowd...there are some successful and some up and coming professionals...who could easily afford a GTR in no time

Ditto. You dont know us son. Just you wait.

[kdfja1]

Agreed that there is too much hating here on the Chevy

True that but last time i logged on.... Wait this is still a Nissan/ Infiniti forum am i correct? The overly bias nature of these posts just define the loyalty of Nico members

[G_whizz]

True that but last time i logged on.... Wait this is still a Nissan/ Infiniti forum am i correct? The overly bias nature of these posts just define the loyalty of Nico members

Sure it is and I love Nissan/Infiniti. But my point was, that you can't be ignorant by saying that the ZRI is a crap car (to sum it up) just because it's not a Nissan/Infiniti.

[heliochrome85]

G_Whizz speaks truth. We are all petrosexuals. Lets not let our love for nissans/infinitis keep us from recognizing a car made BY and FOR petrosexuals. The ZR1 isnt a corolla.

[Kenrik]

Agreed that there is too much hating here on the Chevy, the ZR1 is a hawt car ...PERIOD. You can't argue that it isn't, if you are, I would consider you to be an ignorant person.

^^^^ That statement I disagree with heavily, aside from what's shown in this thread, most here are not like the young 240 crowd...there are some successful and some up and coming professionals...who could easily afford a GTR in no time

Like me.. I could technically afford it if I had the G35 paid off..

But I'm Married & don't own a house yet..

Dam you Priorities!!

[Jacko3]

Of all the vettes I have seen, the ZR1 is the best looking I have seen. However, I still feel a sports car should not look like an oversized male sexual organ. The GTR is about the size of a G-37 and perhaps a G-35 and yet it can and could make the ZR1 look really bad on extreme curves and turns. And don't forget that the GTR is a twin turbo 6 cylinder, while the ZR1 is supercharged.

[lucidd]

This corvette ZR1 looks good?

A matter of opinion I guess...But seriously,take a look at the pics of it.

IMO only --- I've seen some pics online, and also in R/T mag - with it featured on the front - in Blue. -it looks like a corvette on steroids... - its not ugly, but not too pleasing... with its flared everything, the front lip looks like a snow plow-I cant get over it! --- Enthusiasts and editors are bashing the GTR's looks... ummmm... where's the opinions on this thing???IMO again, the corvette ZR1 has no class.

The GTR is fresh, with function in mind. --- Furthermore, most of us will learn to love the way it looks, the corvette on the other hand, it looks good, but not fresh --- a little stale actually... and I won't learn to love the way it looks.

IMOL