GT-R pictures inside and out.

[G_whizz]

For those that don't visit the General chat here

zerothread/272123

It WILL NOT have the VQ engine

[etschell]

please, this is no corvette killer. z06 is still the better car, try getting one for under $80,000 that will "kill" a z06. Once again, motortrend youre full of ****.

[zozoka1212]

It's already killed it in Germany on the track. by 7 seconds the lap. But we shall see when they are out. I can't wait.

zozo

[AZhitman]

There's WAY too much misinformation in this thread.

1) It IS a 'Vette-killer. It's moved on to the Porsche. Get over it.

2) It's NOT going to be an Infiniti in North America. It's a Nissan. Period.

3) It will not have to be serviced next to Sentras. There will be selected dealerships with specialized GT-R techs and customer service.

4) We already discussed the engine - Everything you need to know is right here: zerothread/272123

5) Lap times are FAR from fictitious. Seems only the 'vette lovers can swallow that fact. They don't lie at the 'ring.

[atlanta2007G35S]

Those 'ring times are unofficial and highly suspect. I doubt this car is going to put up numbers similar to cars pushing more horsepower and much lower weights. No matter how much someone likes this car, which I don't, the rules of physics still apply people.

This car is going to weigh in at over 3,500lbs easily, probably more. You don't get all-wheel drive and all that plastic body cladding junk on a car and get the weight under 3,000lbs. You need carbon fiber and lots of it, which is why the cars in the time range this GT-R is supposedly competing with cost upwards of a hundred thousand dollars, and in the case of the Carrera GT, CCX and SLR, $400,000+. Get real and get off the pipe folks.

Plus, the 3.5 second 0-60 time is for the $90-100K version, the V Spec or whatever they are calling it now, not the entry level version. Bet my next paycheck on that one.

All these numbers are merely being put out there for publicity and hype, not reality until they are verified by SpuortoAuto or an officially sanction lap time by someone reputable. The fact it is in Motor Trend speaks volumes too.

[atlanta2007G35S]

hate to burst your bubble on number 5, but until they reference who did the test and it's done in a verifiable manner, ie proper timing, driver, conditions, etc, it isn't official. Which is why it has been put out in this manner, magazines and internet gossip.

When you say they don't lie at the 'ring. Who are you talking about exactly in this case? The number 7'35" was floated on the internet first and was reported to be a number based on a hand timed lap from some test guys. Nothing official was published anywhere by anyone associated with groups that do official lap testing on the 'ring or by Nissan themselves for that matter.


Modified by atlanta2007G35S at 9:58 AM 10/18/2007

[Rex]

hate to burst your bubble on number 5, but until they reference who did the test and it's done in a verifiable manner, ie proper timing, driver, conditions, etc, it isn't official. Which is why it has been put out in this manner, magazines and internet gossip.

Fictitious and isn't official don't mean the same thing. You're right until they're "official" they're not official, but that doesn't mean they are made up, just not "certified/validated".

[atlanta2007G35S]

well, considering the company shared by that time, I will remain skeptical until something official is released. Until it is marked by an officially timed lap it remains suspect and without that kind of validation anyone can say anything if they don't have to back it up with proof.

[DJButton]

While on the topic of validation, why should I believe or give a care about anything you say? Do you work for an official sanctioning body or are you just an eternal skeptic and downer of things you don't "like"?

[AZhitman]

In that case, add half a sec to the times for the Porsche, the Vette and the Koenigsegg.... "Sanctioning body"?

Please.

The Porsche guys were the ones who put up the video of it passing the GT2. Blame them.

Besides, anyone spending $100-K - $400K to boast about being a second faster on a 14-mile course is simply retarded.

[Rex]

well, considering the company shared by that time, I will remain skeptical until something official is released. Until it is marked by an officially timed lap it remains suspect and without that kind of validation anyone can say anything if they don't have to back it up with proof.

That's a position I can respect, and I don't mean that in a condescending way.

[joe603]

Simply put, this car is going to be badass! Arguing over seconds in the Nurburg ring is pointless, for right now. We're all excited about the new car, and specifically the power plant (who doesn't want twin-turbo with a factory warranty!). Let's try and hold off on the speculation until we have firm numbers to compare. Nothing is set in stone as of yet...

[AZhitman]

That's a position I can respect, and I don't mean that in a condescending way.

I concur as well - He makes a great point.

Won't diminish my appreciation for the car, as it's been a long time since Nissan brought a "significant" car to market.

This thing is a giant-killer, if you look at it from a historical standpoint. The last time this happened was the release of the S30 in 1969.

[RED_DET]

I concur as well - He makes a great point.

Won't diminish my appreciation for the car, as it's been a long time since Nissan brought a "significant" car to market, not to mention this car has never been in the US market and I'm not talking about importation either.

This thing is a giant-killer, if you look at it from a historical standpoint. The last time this happened was the release of the S30 in 1969.

fixed.

[usdm_180sx]

Sorry buddy you'd still be 2 turbos too short and w/o awd

Geez that is just about PERFECT!

I wonder if I could get that cover for my intake manifold?

[atlanta2007G35S]

appreciated.....

The same debate goes on at the M3 boards and the numbers get debated endlessly, a virtual debate over virtual numbers at this point. Kind of like mental masturbatlon if you ask me.

[atlanta2007G35S]

easy there, it's not like I pi$$ed in your wheaties or anything. I'm just not a believer in everything that's put out there in print. Be that cars, business or even politics, especially politics.

Or are you one of those folks that still believes there was a link between Iraq and Osama, just as an example? If they say it often enough, people will come to believe anything as fact.

[gwoods]

why is it auto?

Go drive a 07 manual sedan and an 07 auto sedan and see if you can tell a difference.

My auto shifts faster then I could shift a stick.

Drive train loss would be the only reason you would want a stick

my auto not in sport mode with electronic nannies on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27gPFc5-1g

[gwoods]

Sorry buddy you'd still be 2 turbos too short and w/o awd

Thats fine, I wasn't expecting a performance gain from a peice of plastic LOL.

It just looks better imo then the Infiniti cover

[zozoka1212]

In that case, add half a sec to the times for the Porsche, the Vette and the Koenigsegg.... "Sanctioning body"?

Please.

The Porsche guys were the ones who put up the video of it passing the GT2. Blame them.

Besides, anyone spending $100-K - $400K to boast about being a second faster on a 14-mile course is simply retarded.

I just found these.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...times

It looks like this guys have the same numbers.



zozo

[G_whizz]

Yeah... but... Wikepedia can be played with as well Zozo... it's not always fact on there..

[zozoka1212]

I know I know. I just try to warm up people here. It's kind of boring wthout that Type-R lover dude. It was going pretty good last night. I can feel the chemistry here. I missed the whole part I had to work. Damn I have to make money.I've got bunch of new projects to program. he he he

I've seen a German website couple of weeks ago with all the times on it. I did not save it on my favorite list. That was a mistake. I can't find it.

I guess we have to wait till it comes out and smoke the vette. anybody. I love the way some people think. It can't be cheaper and faster than the vette.

GT-R

zozo

[G_whizz]

LOL... here... since you like to stir the pot *hands Zozo the big wooden spoon*

I'm sure he'll be back any day now anyways..

[zozoka1212]

I have that picture for him. It is so special. He'll be pissed.

zozo

[joe603]

...have to be more specific when you say "cheaper than a vette"... The base vette is under 50k. The GTR will wipe the floor with it, but will it be 70-80k?? The Z06 vette is 65k+...it will be a much closer match.

The vette has always been the "cheap supercar"...it will be interesting if they offer the GTR in trim similar to the base corvette price, and trim in the Z06 range with the same or better mods/HP.

[zozoka1212]

You are absolutely right Joe.

appology to everyone.

zozo

[joe603]

You are absolutely right Joe.

appology to everyone.

zozo

No apology necessary Zozo!!

We're all just really excited about Nissan finally releasing the GTR to the states!!!!!!

[DJButton]

Wow this thread has too much mush and feelings and all that jazz in it.

easy there, it's not like I pi$$ed in your wheaties or anything. I'm just not a believer in everything that's put out there in print. Be that cars, business or even politics, especially politics.

Or are you one of those folks that still believes there was a link between Iraq and Osama, just as an example? If they say it often enough, people will come to believe anything as fact.

I try to start some friendly banter and that's what I get...

[C-Kwik]

ok here is some other number for you.

It did a lap in Nurburgring's Nordschleife with the stock 480 horses.Stunning 7 min and 35 sec.

They try to bring the lighter one with more horses on the track to tackling the record a bit.

Nissan GT-R must beat:

1. Porsche Carrera GT: 7 minutes/28 seconds2. Porsche 997 GT2: 7 minutes/32 seconds3. Pagani Zonda F: 7 minutes/33 seconds4. Koenigsegg CCR: 7 minutes/34 seconds

Nissan GT-R has beat:

Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren: 7 minutes/40 secondsPorsche 997 Turbo: 7 minutes/40 secondsChevrolet Corvette Z06: 7 minutes/42 secondsPorsche 996 GT2: 7 minutes/42 seconds

impressive numbers.

zozo

An interesting tidbit here. How many of those cars have a usable back seat and trunk?

[grantman240z]

...have to be more specific when you say "cheaper than a vette"... The base vette is under 50k. The GTR will wipe the floor with it, but will it be 70-80k?? The Z06 vette is 65k+...it will be a much closer match.

The vette has always been the "cheap supercar"...it will be interesting if they offer the GTR in trim similar to the base corvette price, and trim in the Z06 range with the same or better mods/HP.

There are three trims confirmed for the GT-R, but even the base spec is still priced above a standard C6 Vette by almost 10k (though, it does have +50hp).

From Autoblog:http://www.autoblog.com/2007/0...erday/

Quote »And the three varieties of GT-R are again confirmed, with dealers actually having sales material in hand listing models and specs. The rundown we know of is the standard model at 480 HP and $57,000, a V-Spec for $67,000, and an EVO-spec with 530 HP, 200 fewer pounds and a $94,000 tag. The home team -- Japan, that is -- begins receiving deliveries in December.[/quote]Also, don't forget the Corvette ZR-1 is coming as a trim above the Z06 and they are also discussing engineering an AWD system for the Corvette as well.. Corvette will likely keep the corner in bang-for-buck territory.

I love both cars...but I would take a GT-R over a ZR-1 in a heartbeat.