Got pics of your wheels?

[Falkdesigns]

Right, so that's not stretched then. Stretched in tire terms is when the tire is physically stretching to fit on the rim. IE: a 215 on a 10" wide wheel would be "stretched".

[maxnix]

Brian is right.... At widest what I would run on there is a 245... Ive seen 245s on a 7.5 in wheel, a little stretched but not bad......

I think Wes meant it is a stretch to fit tires that wide on such a narrow wheel. Remember, this all depends on the aspect ratio of the tire. The shorter the shoulder relative to its cross section (the aspect ratio), the rim width should be a higher percentage of the tire's cross section.

In any case, actually stretching a tire by mounting it on a wider rim than the cross section is not how the engineers designed the tires. It is right there with the hooptie wheels and the guys that like to run on space savers.

[maxnix]

Right, so that's not stretched then. Stretched in tire terms is when the tire is physically stretching to fit on the rim. IE: a 215 on a 10" wide wheel would be "stretched".

Boy, would it ever. Not safe at any speed!

[elwesso]

I think Wes meant it is a stretch to fit tires that wide on such a narrow wheel. Remember, this all depends on the aspect ratio of the tire. The shorter the shoulder relative to its cross section (the aspect ratio), the rim width should be a higher percentage of the tire's cross section.

In any case, actually stretching a tire by mounting it on a wider rim than the cross section is not how the engineers designed the tires. It is right there with the hooptie wheels and the guys that like to run on space savers.

Yep... And with the 245s on a 7.5, thats about as far as id want to go and still feel comfortable......

my 265s fit fine on my 8.5s ..

[MinisterofDOOM]

Yep... And with the 245s on a 7.5, thats about as far as id want to go and still feel comfortable......

245 is the factory tire size for nissan's 7.5 inch wheel-equipped cars. It is definitely too wide, though, by my standards. 225 would be much better.

[Falkdesigns]

245 is the factory tire size for nissan's 7.5 inch wheel-equipped cars. It is definitely too wide, though, by my standards. 225 would be much better.

I totally agree.

[maxnix]

245 is the factory tire size for nissan's 7.5 inch wheel-equipped cars. It is definitely too wide, though, by my standards. 225 would be much better.

Yeah, some dumb compromises are done by OEM to save an ounce where they shouldn't, but then consumers are always shopping price point and won't pay for the higher cost materials to save weight but maintain strength.

[q45VIP]

F-18x9 +5 225/40R-18x10 -5 235/40

[Louis Cyphier]

Boy, would it ever. Not safe at any speed!

oh jesus. a 215 can be barely stretched on a 10"

Im running 215/45/17 on 9.5" and i've run a 235/40/17 on 10" neither were stretched how i woulda liked to see them

I've run stretched tires for years and had no one single blow-out ever.

[maxnix]

oh jesus. a 215 can be barely stretched on a 10"

Im running 215/45/17 on 9.5" and i've run a 235/40/17 on 10" neither were stretched how i woulda liked to see them

I've run stretched tires for years and had no one single blow-out ever.

Haven't seen a hooptie blow out yet either, but I sure do pass them quickly becasue I don't want to be behind them when it happens. Isn't tempting fate fun?

Don't know why anyone would want to jeopardize everyone's safety by running less than minimum OEM load specifications. Not to mention you are way down on cornering and braking performance and increase wear.

[AZhitman]

Wow.

Guess I'm just a fan of a little extra rubber.

There's really no sense arguing the merits or drawbacks to either extreme (stretched or stuffed)...

Everyone wants to truck out anecdotal evidence (like saying, "I've never had a blowout") but most people are unwilling (or unable) to comprehend tires the way an engineer does.

Bottom line? Anything less than factory-specified load rating on a car like the Q exposes you to unnecessary liability and inhibits performance (regardless of what your "butt meter" says).

VIP, love the car, looks hot... but I'd hate to make an emergency stop or an 80mph sudden lane change in that car (especially on 170-degree asphalt).

[elwesso]

Me too...... I like having extra meat....... Its how I order my pizza too.....

[q45VIP]

VIP, love the car, looks hot... but I'd hate to make an emergency stop or an 80mph sudden lane change in that car (especially on 170-degree asphalt).

Believe me , Ive had to make sudden lane changes @75-80 mph (these damn phoenix drivers )No problems stoping either.Turn in response is great, I would never go back to stock sizes ( or close ) with so much sidewall that you turn the wheel and it takes a while for the car to respond.With this set up the car feels like its on rails.Still got Cusco coils and JIC sus.parts sitting in the garage waiting to install.

My 2 cents

[Falkdesigns]

Your fronts look perfect to me, but the rears stick so far out, you see almost the entire tire, even with the pulled fender. It needs to be pulled all the way around and made into wide-body, IMO. Just looks weird seeing so much rubber to me, never seen that look in any VIP mags, unless like I said, you did a wide-body. The fronts are spot on though.

But then again, having personally been twice to Japan, and having dozens of VIP and EXE magazines in my collection, I have absolutely no clue what this "VIP" thing is *heavy sarcasm*

[elwesso]

it probably feels like your on rails because the wheel is hitting the ground.....

Just kidding... no offence, just not my style!

[AZhitman]

I'm just saying you've been fortunate thus far...

Just because nothing bad has happened doesn't mean it's not VERY likely that it will.

Regardless, it looks kickass.

BTW, my 255/40ZR18 P-Zeros feel damn snug too. Sidewalls on these are solid as hell.

So solid that NICOmom drove on one with a 3" gash in the sidewall 6 miles home - no rim damage.

[q45VIP]

it probably feels like your on rails because the wheel is hitting the ground.....

Just kidding... no offence, just not my style!

None taken .

That was actually funny.

[q45VIP]

I'm just saying you've been fortunate thus far...

Just because nothing bad has happened doesn't mean it's not VERY likely that it will.

Regardless, it looks kickass.

BTW, my 255/40ZR18 P-Zeros feel damn snug too. Sidewalls on these are solid as hell.

So solid that NICOmom drove on one with a 3" gash in the sidewall 6 miles home - no rim damage.

I hear what you are saying.But , then again I think people driving with under inflated tires are more at risk. My 2 cents.

ps. Thanks for the kickass comm ent

[q45VIP]

Just looks weird seeing so much rubber to me, never seen that look in any VIP mags, unless like I said, you did a wide-body.

But then again, having personally been twice to Japan, and having dozens of VIP and EXE magazines in my collection, I have absolutely no clue what this "VIP" thing is *heavy sarcasm*

Need to look a little harder

[q45VIP]

One more...

Sorry for the non-Q45 pics m(_ _)m

[Falkdesigns]

It's cool, cause it's still a CIMA

And personally, I still see no where near as much rubber, but it's probably because you haven't got your suspension fully installed yet. I have some pics of a first gen Q with similar size / offsets, and he's got rear fender flares that follow the whole wheel arch, looks hot to me.

However, I will say (and I KNOW I'm right), that about 90% of the cars in more recent magazines don't show that kind of camber. Of course, there are always a "few" but by no means are they the majority.

And actually, even my statement to you is correct, it's not a wide-body, but it's got a full kit and his fenders are pulled like yours, so it's a more balanced look.

[q45VIP]

It does look way more balanced than mine.

Like you said , I still have to finish up my footwork and fenders.Maybe when I lower it some more itll look better.

[bmwkiller]

Wow! Way more pics than I ever would have thought. Thanks for all the input...very cool. I'm leaning toward the Murano wheels. If anybody manages to find a pic of them on a Q, I'd love to see it. Thanks again everybody....great effort on everyones part.

[qsiguy]

These are my current wheels, 19x8 +20 & 19x9.5 +20. Like Brian's new OZ's, these took amazingly little to balance.

Hey Falk, was that a photo of your rear wheel or the front?

Hmm, nevermind. I just looked at your gallery and they look like the rears. Very sweet. What tire sizes are you running?
Modified by qsiguy at 6:44 AM 12/23/2005

[qsiguy]

The reason they are on close out is they are too narrow for a tire of the necessary width to carry the Q45.

What is their weight? What is their load capacity? Two of the most important specifications to consider!

Too narrow is debatable, stocker are only 6.5" wide and stock tire is only 215 width. You could easily install a 235 or 245 on them which in my opinion is plenty wide. I personally don't like the "stretched" look of putting narrow rubber on wide rims. I like them to look more "meaty".

Not sure their weight but I'm sure it's less than my pie pans. What load capacity is good for the Q? The load index on the ICW Acclaim is 1518. The stock tires have a load index of 1521 so the wheels should be fine, right?

Anyone know what the offset is on the 15x6.5 stocker pie pans?
Modified by qsiguy at 7:01 AM 12/23/2005

[Falkdesigns]

Thanks for the comment, I went the tire sizes that seem to be most common on 19" wheels in the VIP magazines: 245/35-19 & 275/30-19. I wish they were a little more stretched, but I'm having a blast with all this rubber in the twisties.

[AZhitman]

Those sound sweet - Pretty similar to what a lot of the G Coupe guys are running... With the exception of a *little* more sidewall.

[qsiguy]

............What is their weight? What is their load capacity? Two of the most important specifications to consider!

Those ICW Acclaims are 22 lbs. ea. What's a decent weight to look for? I found a photo of a car with those wheels on Cardomain.com. It's a Lexus but it gives you an idea of what they look like on a 4 door vehicle. I like them personally. Can't decide if I like the gunmetal gray or silver.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2156480

[Malmon]

These are Murano wheels on a 1997 Q45t.

[elwesso]

those looks SURPRISNGLY good!!!!! Really sharp indeed, theyre off a G35, yes??

Man those Y33s really need to be lowered!!