Goodbye to Versa...

[randyshemin@comcast.]

I'd go for a G37 coupe.

[MinisterofDOOM]

well havnt traded it in yet, but either way im def gettin rid of it, and im stocking it back up, putting all stock performance parts back on, only thing staying is the cosmetics... which i hope isnt a problem

Unfortunately cosmetics will have a BIGGER impact on your car's value than performance mods. Regardless of any of our (or your) opinion of your cosmetic mods, they're unusual, and most buyers will likely NOT want a car with those types of aesthetic mods. It will be difficult for a dealer to re-sell the car, so your dealer trade-in will take a hit. If you have the patience to find someone who WANTS a car with those mods, you can avoid the hit, but that will almost assuredly be difficult. Even selling privately, you'll have trouble selling a cosmetically modified car, especially a newer economy car for whom most of your potential buyers will likely be more conservative car people.

It may actually be worth your time and money to remove the cosmetic mods. I think the difference in trade-in value or even private resale value will likely be worth it.

[Red Devil]

ok mr devil, what is your perfect car for the right price

The new Hyundai Genesis Coupe. V-6 version makes 300hp, Brembo brakes as an option, factory LSD option, e.t.c.

[Knightro2]

Yea, that's a sweet looking car...especially for Hyundai. You can tell they took some of the styling from the Tiburon.

[Ginsu]

You're right. But if I were in his position, I would at least try to find a 16 year old punk who's looking for something like that before going to all that work of whitewashing everything. Perhaps just two weeks with ads online, then, if there are no bites, start spending $ to make it more presentable. If he's lucky enough to actually find someone young & foolish, he might actually get more $ than expected too. One can hope anyway.

[yo wesleyy]

not a bad idea ^ but doubtful. when kids think of fast cars they want, or even cars with mods, one of the last cars they think of is a Versa.

im pretty sure of this mainly because i am still a teenager.

cant hurt to try though, i guess.

[Red Devil]

The big problem is he'd have to find someone with as bad of a taste for car modification as himself.

[Knightro2]

Not bad...."eccentric"

[manvan]

the bigger problem is that if someone does buy his car and comes back to the forum, he'll have to deal w reddevil

[blindsnyper]

The new Hyundai Genesis Coupe. V-6 version makes 300hp, Brembo brakes as an option, factory LSD option, e.t.c.

screw the v6, get the turbo 4 banger. its is almost the same engine as the evo x. the only difference is basically the valve train, same engine code (4b11), same block, same crank, same rods, same, pistons.

the bigger problem is that if someone does buy his car and comes back to the forum, he'll have to deal w reddevil

[Rockhound]

Hate to pile on, but I've got to question this decision as well.

The inconvenient truth: Chrysler build quality/reliability sucks.

I tried to convince my brother of this, before he bought his wife an '06 Pacifica. Around 30,000 miles, the steering rack (!) broke. So he replaced it with an '08 Sebring after I recommended anything but. It suffered the same steering rack issue only 20,000 miles into its life. Now he's convinced I actually know something about cars.

They're building their cars as cheaply as they can - they're obviously on their last leg despite Cerberus' piles of cash from other investments. That's why you get a Caliber-caliber interior on a Charger.

Plus, unlike GM, I just don't see much of a future for Chrysler. Cerberus' main goal at this point is to extract the money they put in to it. What kind of warranty is a new Chrysler purchase going to have if they go belly-up?

[alonsorules8]

well Chrysler was sold yesterday to Fiat so maybe in the next 5 or so years they will turn things around.

[blindsnyper]

well Chrysler was sold yesterday to Fiat so maybe in the next 5 or so years they will turn things around.

they still exist????

[SpeedyV09]

NO fiat did not buy them

(Reuters) - Italy's Fiat, which needs a partner to survive the auto crisis, has agreed to take a 35 percent stake in the No. 3 U.S. car maker Chrysler.

Basically fiat will build smaller cars for chrysler and will sell them in the U.S

Also the article mentions NISSAN at the bottom little confused though.

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/21012....html



Scoop: Fiat 500 May Be On Way to U.S. By 2010

[SpeedyV09]

Modified by thatguy1234 at 11:05 PM 1/21/2009

[VersaMG08]

Chrysler = ugly

Chrysler + Fiat = freakin hideous!

[silverarrow27]

you get what you pay for. Incredible handling, excellent power curve, well built and no maintenance for 4 years/50,000 miles. Buy the base model 128i for 31k and you have a fine car. Much better than the ones you have mentioned IMHO plus significantly better resale.

I agree and not overpriced at all imo. Reasonable price for what you get.

The Genesis turbo was my next cheap man's rwd sports coupe option if not getting a second hand 350z. Ended up buying a 72 240z and then picked up the 07 Versa as a daily driver while I fix up my beast from the east.

[Red Devil]

the bigger problem is that if someone does buy his car and comes back to the forum, he'll have to deal w reddevil

And then we'd have to see all the ricetastic mods again!

What if it got worse? What if they went through with half his crazy ideas and put crappy lambo doors and pointless racing seats in it???? GOD HELP US!!!!!!

[Red Devil]

I find it amusing Fiat's stock dropped to it's lowest since 1985 when news of the sale broke.

Although, if they bring over the Fiat Abarth 500 SS unmolested by any type of crosshair grill or any crappy Chrysler influence I'd consider picking one up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0GeyjCWdlM
Modified by Red Devil at 10:59 AM 1/22/2009

[Moghedian]

Just wanted to say thanks for all you help an time over the last 2mos. or so I've been reading this forum. Many of your posts have been very helpful, revealing the inner workings of the car through helpful pictures and clear instructions. Unlike many of the other losers (i.e. Red Devil) who cant keep their opinion to themselves, and feel everything they say is gold. I believe any way you want to work on your car or customize is awesome. If it wasnt for pioneers like you the Civic would still be an Econo-box for old ladies. Instead, individuals with gumption, and not just a crabby dissing attitude, got out and demanded parts, home engineered stuff, just showed an interest in modding in general. I guess what I'm trying to say as a noob to the show is, thanx RussianBull for all your work. (On your car) And Red Devil, I can see you fingers warming up for your flaming response to this. Just remember, you arent making RussianBull's car payment, he can do w/e the f he wants with his car.

PEACE
Modified by Moghedian at 11:10 PM 1/22/2009

[Red Devil]

I never once said he couldn't do what he wants to, it's his money. He should expect to hear other peoples opinions on his car when he posts pictures of it and looks for opinions on his mods. I can express my opinion anyway and on what I want to. This is a forum, a public place where one can express their opinion. What right do you have to tell me I can't say what I want or when I should be quiet? Seriously, you've been on the forum for all of 3 days. You have no place to be telling me what I can and cannot say, just like I don't tell Russianbull what he can and can't do to his car.

I don't tell him that he can't paint on those gaudy headlight stripe things or that he can't put an arachnid on the side. It's not my buisness to. If he however posts the pictures of it in a topic, asking people what they think, I can express my opinion. He shouldn't get bent out of shape when someone posts a negative opinion about it. He's looking for praise on his mods, not everyone will have it. He, and further more you, should understand that not everyone agrees with everything someone does to a vehicle. Just because I say I think it looks ricey or bad doesn't mean I'm telling you you can't do it. It's your money. I'm just saying that I personally don't like it and that I wouldn't do that to my car.

The problem occurs when people think that I should only be positive when expressing my opinion. That's not always going to happen. Someone posted a lightly modded V recently with a custom leather interior. I found that to be unique but tasteful. Something like Russianbulls mods I find to be over the top and not in good taste. That's just my opinion. You don't need to acknowledge it and you really don't need to be looking for conflict like you did with your above post.

In closing, shut the hell up Moghedian.

[manvan]

im still waiting on a list of parts your selling Rbull, any time now, you can make money from people

[blindsnyper]

Just wanted to say thanks for all you help an time over the last 2mos. or so I've been reading this forum. Many of your posts have been very helpful, revealing the inner workings of the car through helpful pictures and clear instructions. Unlike many of the other losers (i.e. Red Devil) who cant keep their opinion to themselves, and feel everything they say is gold. I believe any way you want to work on your car or customize is awesome. If it wasnt for pioneers like you the Civic would still be an Econo-box for old ladies. Instead, individuals with gumption, and not just a crabby dissing attitude, got out and demanded parts, home engineered stuff, just showed an interest in modding in general. I guess what I'm trying to say as a noob to the show is, thanx RussianBull for all your work. (On your car) And Red Devil, I can see you fingers warming up for your flaming response to this. Just remember, you arent making RussianBull's car payment, he can do w/e the f he wants with his car, and technically, you should shut the hell up.

PEACE

internet high five

[Moghedian]

All im saying is I have read alot of posts and I have formed some opinions of my own, and as Red Devil pointed out, I am free to express them....

Red Devil is a hater.

Russian Bull is an innovator.

I could blather on with examples, but go read the forums.

Nuff said.

[VersaMG08]

Hey Russianbull, I'd think twice about the Dodge Challenger SRT8 before purchasing it. That will cost you a lot more money in the long run, and insurance is going to be expensive when it all adds up, especially if you're younger than 25.

Have you ever gave a thought of a Scion xD or even the tC? The aftermarket support for those vehicles is much better than anything Nissan has. Just giving a piece of advice, hope it helps.

[fjwagner]

Unlike many of the other losers (i.e. Red Devil) who cant keep their opinion to themselves, and feel everything they say is gold.

you should shut the hell up.

PEACE

Opinions are welcome and are part of a forum. I feel you should leave the explicit name calling and telling people to "shut the hell up" to the school yard. Easy to hide behind the keyboard. I doubt you would tell that to someone's face.

[fjwagner]

In closing, shut the hell up Moghedian.

You were doing great until the last sentence. I wish some degree of civility could be kept.

[VersaMG08]

Red Devil loves to resort to name calling & degrading someone opinion when somebody has different tastes than him that he doesn't approve of. That's how he is, there's no point of trying to change him.

[Red Devil]

You were doing great until the last sentence. I wish some degree of civility could be kept.

I was actually joking in that last part. Note the ---->

Red Devil loves to resort to name calling & degrading someone opinion when somebody has different tastes than him that he doesn't approve of. That's how he is, there's no point of trying to change him.

Go through my posts in the V forum. I challenge you to find 1 single time I INITIATED name calling or degredation of a person without prior confrontation. Go on, look. Before you start trying to insult me as a person and make up falsehoods in regards to my posts do some research.

Let me try to clear this up again. I do not "hate" on people who modify their car. It's their money, they can spend it on what they want. When someone posts their car, looking for comments and criticism, I can express my opinion on their mods. Does that mean I'm hating on that person? Absolutely not. I usually say something along the lines of, "It's a family econobox, it really doesn't need racing seats." not, as some people translate that to, "Your car sucks, you suck, your mom sucks, Jesus sucks and I hate your mods and any mods ever done to any car in the history of EVER!!!!!".

While I understand people try to be unique with their cars, it doesn't mean I have to be positive or give positive criticism about it. Personally, I find that you all are starting to become the haters IMHO. I try to express my opinion on these "mods" you guys do, without trying to degrade or insult someone, then you guys get offended by what I say and tell me not to say it or you tell me that I have some sort of anger/negativity issue.

The only reason any negativity or anger/conflict gets brought into any thread I comment about is because you guys are the ones who bring it. I say something like, "I don't understand the whole angel eyes thing" and you act all offended. I never attacked or tried to imply someones view was wrong. All these "issues" that get astarted are the result of your inability to ignore/accept my opinion.

Honestly guys, you seem to love to take what I say grossly out of context. You then decide to run with it and turn it into a Red Devil hatefest. Seriously? It's the internet, grow up.

[VersaMG08]

Oh, I'm not going to insult you personally. I think your opinion on other people's decision to modify a Versa or any vehicle is negative and people are annoyed of negativity. I've seen more of that.

Negativity is easier to spread than something that's positive. You may have got me there about the name calling issue; I'm not going to search the Versa forums, not worth my time and it's not critical.

Regardless, people crave to modify their vehicle because it is in their best interest to reflect who they are and what they want out of a car. I modify my car to my liking WITHOUT voiding the warranty. I want to keep the car under warranty until it expires because it if expires, it costs more to fix the car if something terrible happens. Until then, I will modify it to my liking.

I'm going to modify my car because I don't know whether or not I want to purchase a new car, trade it in, or sell it. It's too early to decide and I want to enjoy my car before I make drastic decisions.

Most of us are grown ups, there are some who need to mature somewhat, but I think this is an on going cycle that won't stop.