gas mileage?? only getting 230 miles a tank (14 mpg)???

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rmezz13 wrote:Is a 20 gallon tank but has a 7 gallon reserve
mezz I know you're quoting Richie, but 7gal is way too much for 350z 'reserve'. If I had to take a guess I would think its about 3 or maybe at most 4 gallons. With that, what the OP should do knowing she has a 20gal tank is fill up and set the tripodometer to 0. When her fuel light comes on again, fill up. At that point, fill up and record the number of gallons filled. This will tell her how many gallons she burned before the light came on, and dividing that number (like you said) into the trip odometer reading will get her gas mileage for that tank. At that point she can estimate how far she has to go until she is actually empty. Example, after driving 250mi, she fills up with 12gallons(when the light comes on)...shortly after the light came on 250/12=20.8mpg for that tank. Knowing she has about 8 gallons left or about 160 miles. So if she were to push her tank to complete empty, she could get 410mi to a tank.
R350Zz33 wrote:its a 20 gallon tank. and to the person who said thats drafting not hyper mileing, hyper mileingis not one thing but all thoses things combined shifting early drafting turning engine off at stop coasting coasting with the engine off ...... look it up bud
ummm thats actually what I said, a combination of different things, learn to read......bud


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when did i ever say the z had a 7 gallon reserve ??? please show me

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R350Zz33 wrote:when did i ever say the z had a 7 gallon reserve ??? please show me
You didn't, or if you did I didn't find it anywhere.

A 7 gallon reserve...on a 20 gallon tank? Over 33% the size of the tank dedicated to a reserve? That's insane.

Three to four gallons may even be stretching it. When I test drove mine the tank was conspicuously close to empty, it was in July so I'm sure it was to dissuade the joyriders. The low fuel indicator came on when I was out on the interstate and I remember the DTE on the computer bouncing around between 20 and 30 miles. That would seem to make the reserve closer to one or two gallons.

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busy plz remove the qoutes that have to do with me from ur sig.

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what do you guys think of this lil item?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAP...17177

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lucsious wrote:what do you guys think of this lil item?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAP...17177
SCAM, SCAM, SCAM.

Think about it. Any fuel saving cheap gizmo, if it worked, would already be on your car to help the manufacturer meet federal CAFE standards.


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lucsious wrote:what do you guys think of this lil item?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAP...17177
Most nissans already have secondary butterfly valves to increase turbulence in the combustion chamber. That thing would do nothing, maybe even reduce your gas mileage, as it would be a restriction in the intake system.
That video is wrong on so many levels."Oil companies and car manufacturers DON'T want you to know about maintinence and keeping **** out of your trunk!" Then why is it in the owners manual?

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Just took a long drive, averaged 26-27mpg but that is having no fun. I usually get around 18-19mpg for all around driving.

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lucsious wrote:what do you guys think of this lil item?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAP...17177
if you zip tie that thing to your emergency lug nut wrench, it'll make a pretty good back scratcher.

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lucsious wrote:what do you guys think of this lil item?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAP...17177
there's no real simple modification on the car that you can do to help. Only driver changes.

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k so tried doing it again filled up on sat and my gas meter arm is at the 1/4 tank line today and right now its reading 180 miles. another 30 miles and my gas light will come on.does that seem right.. my mpg was never reading below 18 mpg. and i was driving normal.. not like a ***** outta hell..lol.

whats everyone else getting in miles by the time they reach the 1/4 tank notch?

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ldstang50 wrote:mezz I know you're quoting Richie, but 7gal is way too much for 350z 'reserve'. If I had to take a guess I would think its about 3 or maybe at most 4 gallons. With that, what the OP should do knowing she has a 20gal tank is fill up and set the tripodometer to 0. When her fuel light comes on again, fill up. At that point, fill up and record the number of gallons filled. This will tell her how many gallons she burned before the light came on, and dividing that number (like you said) into the trip odometer reading will get her gas mileage for that tank. At that point she can estimate how far she has to go until she is actually empty. Example, after driving 250mi, she fills up with 12gallons(when the light comes on)...shortly after the light came on 250/12=20.8mpg for that tank. Knowing she has about 8 gallons left or about 160 miles. So if she were to push her tank to complete empty, she could get 410mi to a tank.
+1 - the 'miles to empty' learns based off your previous long trip aggregates - if the car never made a 300 mile trip on a tank of gas, it will never show it. Base your need to fill-up on the actual gas meter in your car.

The reserve, if you're lucky, is no more than 2 gallons - there should be no reason for a 7 gallon reserve tank, as that would be entirely useless.

Lol to the "vortex" thingy. It goes by another name as well - the turbonator

O man, how come i never thought of putting acetone in my tank! Of course it gives you 10mpg more..... @ richie - you're worse than nala...

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my mark is 275-300mi. I usually get at least 370mi when the light goes on. Then again, I drive pretty conservatively 70mph at the fastest, except for the occasional spirited sunday rides to the twisties.

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yeah see i drive that way to.. so what could be wrong with my car??its worrying me.

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Fill up when the meter says 1/4 of a tank and see how many gallons you put in - if you put in around 15 - the it's ok. If you are only putting in like 10 or so, it sounds like you might have a faulty element in your gas tank that's not measuring the amount of gas that you have properly.

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I'm gonna guess that it's the winter gas that's hurting your mileage. You live in ontario canada? Pretty cold place...and highly likely that your gas stations carry winter gas around this time of the year.

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yeah ill try that... and yeah could be cause of the cold to.just hope its nothing to major as i have 2 more weeks for them to fix anything needed. before i have to go through warranty.

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and what if i put in more then 15??

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marlin29311 wrote:Fill up when the meter says 1/4 of a tank and see how many gallons you put in - if you put in around 15 - the it's ok. If you are only putting in like 10 or so, it sounds like you might have a faulty element in your gas tank that's not measuring the amount of gas that you have properly.
The Z has a 7 gallon reserve. If you fill up with a 1/4 tank left, you'll get 8-10 gallons in. When my low fuel goes on, i'd only be able to top it off with 14 gal. max.

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Stop looking at the gauge. It only calculates average mph, which can and will report much lower MPG than actual.

Fill tank completely. Reset Trip-odometer on the dash, it's a button you push in that makes the miles on the dash go to zero. Drive it until you decide to fill up. (Try to use same pump as before.) Fill it up, and read the amount it fills up your car. Take that number and divide it by your mileage from your trip-odometer.

If your car reads km then it's a .4251 conversion number to convert KmPL to MPG.

mpg = .4251*KmPL

If your car reads in miles, 1 gallon = 3.7854 liters.

MPG = MPL*3.7854

it's simple math really and hardly any effort to find an actual number, not an average.

How's your idle, is it steady at rpm? Or is your rpm very inconsistent?

Not to be a party pooper, but your sig is way to big. 600 x 200 pixel is the limit.

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ive done that last time i refilled i set the trip to 0 yes.and im going to wait till the light comes on to refill and try that out.however ill be filling up very shortly and am only at 180 miles so i want to know what everyone else calculated at the 1/4 tank notch.and yeah ive just learned the signature thing, still playing around with it.

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hmm, sorry I miss interpreted it.

How's your idle quality? Steady rpm or varying a lot? And how about temperature, does it get up pass C?

I don't mean to be pushy about the sig. I also don't make the rules. Just want to help you out.

You can keep both if you resize each 6 times their size and place them side by side.

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havnt checked the temp.. i will in a bit.and rpm on highway 65 mh always stays at or under 3 .idle quality? how would i know how it is?

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lucsious wrote:havnt checked the temp.. i will in a bit.and rpm on highway 65 mh always stays at or under 3 .idle quality? how would i know how it is?
idle is when you sit at rest and let the engine run... you are not touching anything.

It's usually around 1k rpm. Steady rpm means that it stays relatively still. Varying means its moving up and down a lot.

Might as well throw this up.. because I heard this happen too much.. Have you checked oil level?

your sig is almost perfect, just need to shrink the one of them a little to let the second cuddle next to the first.

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ill check the oil tonight but i mean i just picked the car up last week and tey did an oil change on it. and idle yeah.sorry seems to be fine.

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Just so you can see, I am not a serious guy all the time.



Friend of mine, complained his MPG was really low. I gave him basics, week later he seized his engine due to no oil. I only face palm him for not doing basics on car maintenance.

Also, if you can note if the oil was light or dark when you check it.
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I would think that if something was wrong with the car (that drastic) that the CEL would come on.

How short are the trips you are taking? Is the car getting up to temp before you shut it off?

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Rare_f8 wrote:Just so you can see, I am not a serious guy all the time.
I'm tempted to remove that pic... for both our sakes.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:I'm tempted to remove that pic... for both our sakes.


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