G35 Caught Street Racing In Towson/ Need help read and help decide my fate LOL!!

[G35RidinVolks]

Well heres the deal i got caught street racing a 95 240sx. The cop pulled him over so i kept my foot on the gas and left. The guy who i was racing said i rolled down my window and said do you think your 240 is quicker than my g35. Hes the one who rolled down the window and asked me what kind of exhaust i have on it and i told him and the light turned green and he went so i went and then like 10 seconds later i hear the cops so i hit the gas and get out of there. Later that night i hear a knock at my door its the cop that pulled the 240 over. He said he drove by and reconized the car and my exhaust was still hot so he knew it was me out there racing. For all he knows i went up to 7/11 and came back and thats why my exhaust was still hot lol. He gave me 3 tickets one for spinning tires one for driving recklessly and another for some other crap i cant read it. it totals 890$. The 240 was weeving in and out and i was driving straight so how am i the reckless one lol. This d!ck has no proof it was me or that we were street racing he didnt give us any speed tickets or anything. All he said was i heard you peel wheels and go on green and i knew what was going down . And plus theres g35s everywhere and it was pitch black out and he was 3 cars behind. SO HOW THE HELL DOES HE KNOW IT WAS ME?

DO YOU GUYS THINK I WILL WIN THE CASE?

P.S By the way i blew his A$$ away lol. we raced twice once before the light and at the light. I had him the first time by like 6 cars lol and at the light even with him distracting me i had him by 2 right off the line and he left before me lol.

[zozoka1212]

This seems to be an easy case. He did not catch you. He did not read your license plate or nothing. Just stick to the story make sure the 7/11 wasn't even to the same way. Should be clear.

zozo

[G35_Rican30]

I agree with zozo, you should win the case unless the cop got your license plate.....remember their cars do carry cameras but if he didnt get your license plate then you should be in the clear... ...now here comes the older man in me...First off... ...was you thinking street racing in the first place.... ...man you truly give us G owners a bad name...if you want to race then by all means do it but do it in a controlled area like a track or drag strip, by doing it in the street you run the risk of hitting another car or another person not to mention maybe killing yourself or the other driver in the process... ....now i know you have done some mods to the car and it looks good but if you want to keep it that way then you need to use your better judgement...honestly i think you deserve the tickets you got, that should teach you a lesson but in the same token he didnt pull you over at the scene so you do have a case...next time think before you act.....both of you could have costed somebody a family member or serious property damage...but thats my .02 cents.....

[groundrocket]

Don't know how the judges back there look at it but even if he has your plate on his dash camera unless he has your face on it he has no proof that you were driving at the time. If you get a decent judge that dosen't assume that the cops are always right you should be ok - other than the hassle of court time.

The last ticket I got was for 80 on hwy 50 - beat it in court as it was an aircraft ticket - cop in the airplane determined speed and cop on the ground wrote the ticket - therefore both cops have to show up in court or it gets thrown out. I rescheduled it for as far out as I could without waiving my right to a speedy trial... lucky for me that put it right in the middle of spring break in the local school districts reducing the odds that either cop would show up... I spoke with the DAs office and they didnt even want to offer a plea bargain so I went on to court - the DAs office sent me a letter in advance saying one of the cops was in training that day - told the judge that his trianing isn't my fault - he siad I had to reschedule - I pointed out that it was forcing me to waive my right to a speedy trial - judge said that he was inclined to grant continuance and I had to pick another trial date - fine tomorrow - no cops showed up - the DAs office didnt even show to prosecute - judge had to have a DA pulled from another cast to agree that it was being dismissed.

8 hours later leaving on a road trip to Denver I got another one... win some loose some - they never sent me the summons on that one tho and had my name down as Robert - not even close...

Hope you beat the system on this one just on general principal - they didn't catch you fair and square and guess work isnt detective work...

Other than that you are better off taking it to the track but I say that with one about 8 miles from the house....

Nuff said.

KJ

[fayceoff]

Don't know how the judges back there look at it but even if he has your plate on his dash camera unless he has your face on it he has no proof that you were driving at the time. If you get a lawyer and a decent judge that dosen't assume that the cops are always right you should be ok - other than the hassle of court time.

Fixed it for you. OP - if you're out street-racing and eluding the police then you pretty much deserve the full brunt of the law, but a good lawyer can get you off. Good luck.

[USAF_G35_Guy]

If you're gonna run from cops....ya might wanna have an empty spot in your garage to hide your car next time Cause you know after the cop gave the ticket to the 240, he had nothing better to do than drive around through the neighborhoods for the next 2 or 3 hours searching for you He was probably sipping on a Espresso Chai Latte from Starbucks while he was doing it and crammin his face with powdered donuts! Good luck on getting off! Just be glad he didn't give you a evading an officer ticket to boot Cause cops can and do make **** up like that if there is any possible gray area for them to do so. Be glad you still have your license....of course if you got a reckless driving ticket, you may not for long

...hell, if the cop can prove it was your car, you can even say that it wasn't you driving and your buddy was driving, who is now in Mexico! HAHA! good luck....but keep it safe next time!

[telcoman]

Well heres the deal i got caught street racing a 95 240sx. The cop pulled him over so i kept my foot on the gas and left.

DO YOU GUYS THINK I WILL WIN THE CASE?

I think you can if you get a good lawyer. It will be money well spent and a lesson learned for you.

DO NOT RACE ON PUBLIC ROADS

Telcoman

[Beezer]

You're screwed if they call in the CSI guys. Grissom will take a sample from one of your tires and then match it to the patch you laid at the intersection. Plus you more or less already sealed your fate by mentioning it here. They'll be combing the G forums looking for you.

[Rivalry]

You're screwed if they call in the CSI guys. Grissom will take a sample from one of your tires and then match it to the patch you laid at the intersection. Plus you more or less already sealed your fate by mentioning it here. They'll be combing the G forums looking for you.

I know you're only kidding, but I would still love to see the face of the judge when an internet forum is brought up as evidence, LOL.

[Q45tech]

Hopefully some law abidding citizen doesn't print your confession as posted here and send it to the police in Towsend.

[rn79870]

If you have half the luck with the judge that you've had here you'll do okay. I'm pretty surprised you haven't been keel hauled here for street racing. Hope you learned your lesson and we'll let it go at that. $890 isn't really that bad. In CA you wouild lose your car for a month, at your expense, in NC they apparently take it and put it in the undercover fleet.

[Sil40_Mayhem]

Let me make sure I have this all down:

1) You engaged in an unlawful street race2) You evaded the police while they stopped the other vehicle (again, unlawful)3) You were found and ticketed, and now want to get out of it

It's this continual pattern of shunning personal responsibility in our society that I find appalling. Yeah, why should any of us be punished for committing clearly-outlined violations? I could see if it was a bogus charge, something like you being the victim of a ricer flyby and the cop accusing you of participating in an illegal contest of speed. Yet, here we have a total (and unapologetic) admittance of wrongdoing. I don't get it. It's not about coming down on you or having anything personal against you (unless I'm badly mistaken, I never seen you a day in my life). But the fact of the matter is, street racing is illegal and you shouldn't do it. Until the law changes, that's how I feel about it. To me, it's no different that trying to get away with robbing a convenience store or something: wrong is wrong. I hate to get all preachy and whatnot, but it kills me when someone knowingly (and willingly) does the wrong thing, gets busted, and tries to weasel out of it (and yes, I do practice what I preach and hold myself to the same standard). Be a man, take responsibility for your actions (which were wrong; no doubt about that), and learn from the outcome of your decision (not mistake).

Yes, I wrote a novel, but I feel it had to be said. Again, it's not personal. As you can see, I'm not cursing, calling names, or using ALL CAPS AND TONS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!! It's not an angry, outraged rant, but rather a statement. A lot of problems we face in society is because people are not willing to take responsibility for the things they do. It's always easier to fight tooth and nail against something than to simply admit fault and accept the consequences.

That said, I'm sure that the laws vary from state to state concerning a pursuing officer losing sight of a suspect's vehicle and finding it later. In some cases, you can get away with the 'wasn't me' defense. I wish you the best in your circumstances and hope that, regardless of the outcome, you grow wiser from this experience.

[Rellik27]

hey you got away clean and if everything is true then your straight, oh and dont street race

[ArizonaG35]

Let me make sure I have this all down:

1) You engaged in an unlawful street race2) You evaded the police while they stopped the other vehicle (again, unlawful)3) You were found and ticketed, and now want to get out of it

It's this continual pattern of shunning personal responsibility in our society that I find appalling. Yeah, why should any of us be punished for committing clearly-outlined violations? I could see if it was a bogus charge, something like you being the victim of a ricer flyby and the cop accusing you of participating in an illegal contest of speed. Yet, here we have a total (and unapologetic) admittance of wrongdoing. I don't get it. It's not about coming down on you or having anything personal against you (unless I'm badly mistaken, I never seen you a day in my life). But the fact of the matter is, street racing is illegal and you shouldn't do it. Until the law changes, that's how I feel about it. To me, it's no different that trying to get away with robbing a convenience store or something: wrong is wrong. I hate to get all preachy and whatnot, but it kills me when someone knowingly (and willingly) does the wrong thing, gets busted, and tries to weasel out of it (and yes, I do practice what I preach and hold myself to the same standard). Be a man, take responsibility for your actions (which were wrong; no doubt about that), and learn from the outcome of your decision (not mistake).

Yes, I wrote a novel, but I feel it had to be said. Again, it's not personal. As you can see, I'm not cursing, calling names, or using ALL CAPS AND TONS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!! It's not an angry, outraged rant, but rather a statement. A lot of problems we face in society is because people are not willing to take responsibility for the things they do. It's always easier to fight tooth and nail against something than to simply admit fault and accept the consequences.

That said, I'm sure that the laws vary from state to state concerning a pursuing officer losing sight of a suspect's vehicle and finding it later. In some cases, you can get away with the 'wasn't me' defense. I wish you the best in your circumstances and hope that, regardless of the outcome, you grow wiser from this experience.

I don't think i've ever had the pleasure of meeting this "mayhem" fella, but I LIKE him already. Mucho Propinas to you my friend... I couldn't have said it better myself! Come back to this forum anytime for another dose of old fashioned reality checks!Dave

[joe603]

I think the cop got your plate...to much of a coincidence for him to "drive-by and notice your car". That being said, they got you.

Take it as a lesson learned. We've all done foolish things, at least this time nobody got hurt.

[smockers83]

For one thing...wth? For another thing, reckless driving can be any number of things, not just weaving and being all over the road. Reckless driving can simply be spinning your tires. Also, I'm of the line of thinking that you're screwed either way. The cops could have gotten your plate through video, looked you up, and got your address. Your exhaust is not going to be hot going to the 7 11 down the street.

My youngest brother, who is about your age, I give him all the advice I can give him, but if one of my brothers screws up, all I say to them is well, you screwed up, own up to it. So my advice to you, lesson learned. What sort of case do you think you have? There are cameras at 7 11, they can easily prove you weren't there.

Oh and for future reference, street racing is hated on this forum.

[telcoman]

I don't think i've ever had the pleasure of meeting this "mayhem" fella, but I LIKE him already. Mucho Propinas to you my friend... I couldn't have said it better myself! Come back to this forum anytime for another dose of old fashioned reality checks!Dave

[Dano]

Well since you posted this on a public forum everyone has access to, you could really be screwed . 'Fess up and be a man. It sucks, but I bet you'll get to keep your car... be thankful for that.

[grantman240z]

Exhibition of Speed can be anything from accelerating too rapidly, spinning tires, or revving your engine at a complete stop. In California, it is a misdemeanor...worth two points by itself and they can impound your car if they wish.

Consider yourself lucky given the situation...own up to your mistake, pay the fine, and be done with it. Enjoy your car for what it is, you know full well what cars are slower/quicker than yours...no need to race them off a light. Generally, if someone wants to race you at a light, they know you have the better car.

[Raylo]

I'm with Mayhem, it always seems to be someone elses fault. You may be able to beat it but I think that if you play with fire expect to get burned.

Plus after you plea not guilty and they take it to court who do you think the first person they are going to call as their witness??? Thats right, the guy in the 240. and guess what, he got busted and is not going to be happy with you trying to get off so that positive id of "yes, thats the guy who rolled down his window and wanted to race me" is going to be the last nail in the coffin.

Good luck either way.

[ImpliedConsent]

Hopefully some law abidding citizen doesn't print your confession as posted here and send it to the police in Towsend.

Well since you posted this on a public forum everyone has access to, you could really be screwed . 'Fess up and be a man. It sucks, but I bet you'll get to keep your car... be thankful for that

Heh, I was think the same thing as I was reading his confession of guilt. Man, all I gotta say is good luck and bust up your piggy bank.

[Focusedintntions]

Step 1 get a lawyer like yesterday.....then try to get in contact with the prosecuting office to find out what evidence, if any, they have against you. If they don't have a plate on you...they have nothing.

I had a similar ticket given to me when i was 19 and on my bike. I was coming home really late at night and was doing about 100 mph on a rural back road I know very well. A cop was driving the opposite direction as i rode by him....he was easily doing like 55 in a 40 b/c nobody does 40 on that road.....anyhow....he pulled a u-turn and tried to flag me down. I saw him hit brakes and I gunned it and dissapeared.

About 30 minutes later I was parked in my buddies driveway sitting there talking to him (I was sitting on my bike) and the cop pulls up and turns on his lights and gives me a ticket and even tries to arrest me. I go to court with a lawyer of course b/c of this. The cop had no way to prove that it was in fact me that drove by him b/c he didn't have my plates or even a clue as to what my speed was other than "obviously faster than the posted speed limit b/c he was radar trained to visually spot speeds" . Judge dismissed the ticket b/c the cop was not able to prove w/o a reasonable shaddow of a doubt that it was me that rode past him and how fast i was going.

Granted this was in VA and not MD....but both states share very similar laws about driving b/c of the whole "smooth criminal" program VA/DC/MD share. even if he did have your tags, he can't prove it was you driving.

Again, get a good lawyer, and put the 800 bucks towards him and not the state. Save yourself the points and high insurance rates and chalk it up to lesson learned.

In order to cite you they have to be able to prove A.)That it was your car (would have to have a plate number. B.) that it was in fact you driving the vehicle (there would have to be a witness to say you were the only one in the car) C.) That you actually were racing and spinning your tires (could have been the 240's and not yours since he pulled him over)

[Sentientbydesign]

I agree that street racing is stupid, but wishing bad things on this guy is just mean.

If you're running the Bridgestones that Infiniti puts on all Gs, you're fine regarding the CSI. 80% of us run Bridgestones.

As far as the exhaust being warm. Let's think about it this way. Most new cars have a cat and a pre-cat because for the first 3-5 mins, the exhaust isn't hot enough for the cat to work properly. Which means that within 5 mins, your exhaust is in the range of 1300-1400 degrees. You could have turned your car on, driven around the block and come back and it would be hot for quite some time.

For those of you trying to turn this guy in . If you all forgot what it was like making stupid mistakes, then please let me remind you. None of us is perfect. We all make mistake (Even you ol' farts).

G35RidinVolks, don't get yourself into this situation again. And get some legal counsel. You probably won't get off scott free, but you can probably get the charges and fines reduced.

[ImpliedConsent]

Step 1 get a lawyer like yesterday.....then try to get in contact with the prosecuting office to find out what evidence, if any, they have against you. If they don't have a plate on you...they have nothing....In order to cite you they have to be able to prove A.)That it was your car (would have to have a plate number. B.) that it was in fact you driving the vehicle (there would have to be a witness to say you were the only one in the car) C.) That you actually were racing and spinning your tires (could have been the 240's and not yours since he pulled him over)

What part of this confession (on a public forum no less) confuses you??

Well heres the deal i got caught street racing a 95 240sx. The cop pulled him over so i kept my foot on the gas and left. The guy who i was racing said i rolled down my window and said do you think your 240 is quicker than my g35. Hes the one who rolled down the window and asked me what kind of exhaust i have on it and i told him and the light turned green and he went so i went and then like 10 seconds later i hear the cops so i hit the gas and get out of there. Later that night i hear a knock at my door its the cop that pulled the 240 over. He said he drove by and reconized the car and my exhaust was still hot so he knew it was me out there racing. For all he knows i went up to 7/11 and came back and thats why my exhaust was still hot lol. He gave me 3 tickets one for spinning tires one for driving recklessly and another for some other crap i cant read it. it totals 890$. The 240 was weeving in and out and i was driving straight so how am i the reckless one lol. This d!ck has no proof it was me or that we were street racing he didnt give us any speed tickets or anything. All he said was i heard you peel wheels and go on green and i knew what was going down . And plus theres g35s everywhere and it was pitch black out and he was 3 cars behind. SO HOW THE HELL DOES HE KNOW IT WAS ME? DO YOU GUYS THINK I WILL WIN THE CASE?

P.S By the way i blew his A$$ away lol. we raced twice once before the light and at the light. I had him the first time by like 6 cars lol and at the light even with him distracting me i had him by 2 right off the line and he left before me lol.

Now I'm not saying that anyone on this board would forward this to the prosecuting attorney in Towson, but we've all read and seen weirder. Your best advice was "...get a lawyer like yesterday"

[Sentientbydesign]

Maybe you should edit your OP too!

[Focusedintntions]

There is no confusion about his confession on here....but the chances of that being brought into court as anytype of evidence...well I could win the lottery more often.

Only way they would find out about this post would be A.) some jerk on this forum would have to foward this onto the prosecutors office and know the summons number and/or name of person that is charged. or B.) they would have to take his computer in and search it for evidence (which would take months) ....they don't go through that kind of effort for simple traffic violations....now if he had actually hurt somebody in some way it could be a very different story on how much homework they would bring to the table. But cops hate hw and preparing this kind of stuff....I know as I was used to one

[ImpliedConsent]

There is no confusion about his confession on here....but the chances of that being brought into court as anytype of evidence...well I could win the lottery more often.

Only way they would find out about this post would be A.) some jerk on this forum would have to foward this onto the prosecutors office and know the summons number and/or name of person that is charged. or B.) they would have to take his computer in and search it for evidence (which would take months) ....they don't go through that kind of effort for simple traffic violations....now if he had actually hurt somebody in some way it could be a very different story on how much homework they would bring to the table. But cops hate hw and preparing this kind of stuff....I know as I was used to one

Agreed on all counts. Read my username ... You can't just make that sh... err .. .stuff up. ;-) There's real lessons to be learned here. 1) Don't post illegal activities on a public forum 2) Don't street race ... 3) ... go back to (1), wash, rinse, repeat ...

[Focusedintntions]

Haha...exactly....and to clear up any confusion to any other readers here....i'm not condonning nor condemming him for his actions. We're all young and stupid at one point our lives, some of us take longer to grow up. Him being still 17, this story doesn't surprise me. He came on here and asked for our help as to if there's anything we could offer to help. With positive support and guidence i'm sure he'll learn what he did was wrong and can be shown just how dangerous it really is.

I think we all agree.....street racing = bad...best thing to do is get a good lawyer and hope for the best!....then don't do it again...

[Sil40_Mayhem]

If you all forgot what it was like making stupid mistakes, then please let me remind you. None of us is perfect. We all make mistake (Even you ol' farts).

Ah, the misguided...

Speaking only for myself, as I said in my post, this was a conscious choice, not a mistake. No, none of us are perfect. Yes, we all make bad choices (as well as 'mistakes'). However, some of us (including the aforementioned older flatulent substances) have learned from those experiences and have come to understand that there consequences to said actions. It's not about forgetting our own faults (or denying their existence altogether), but rather to deter unsafe behavior out of a sense of genuine concern for a fellow Niconaut. Kinda like an ad I saw in Motor Trend: "Research shows that the best way to avoid an accident, is to avoid an accident." A similar principle applies here.

[Dano]

Care to answer how your 17 with a G35 anyway? lol I think I know the answer, just want to hear it.