G35 Caught Street Racing In Towson/ Need help read and help decide my fate LOL!!

[ArizonaG35]

Sure... we all make bad choices in life... some of us just get it out of our system earlier than others...

Case in point:

[Sil40_Mayhem]

Sure... we all make bad choices in life... some of us just get it out of our system earlier than others...

Case in point:

You win teh intarwebs!

[Beezer]

Exhibition of Speed can be anything from accelerating too rapidly, spinning tires, or revving your engine at a complete stop. In California, it is a misdemeanor...worth two points by itself and they can impound your car if they wish.

Consider yourself lucky given the situation...own up to your mistake, pay the fine, and be done with it. Enjoy your car for what it is, you know full well what cars are slower/quicker than yours...no need to race them off a light. Generally, if someone wants to race you at a light, they know you have the better car.

Is there such a thing as accelerating too rapidly? I dont about traffic law in the US but in Canada I believe that one can accelerate as rapid as they want, without wheel spin of course, until the posted speed limit is reached.

[grantman240z]

Is there such a thing as accelerating too rapidly? I dont about traffic law in the US but in Canada I believe that one can accelerate as rapid as they want, without wheel spin of course, until the posted speed limit is reached.

Yes, I got pulled over in my 240z for accelerating too rapidly for the cop's taste. He was actually in the opposing side of the road and flipped around just to hit me for that...then my brake-light was out....and for "modified" exhaust on a 1970.

I was charged with Exhibition of Speed when I rolled my first 240z after making a bad decision seven years ago. Laws are only get more harsh as time goes on in California.

[joe603]

Care to answer how your 17 with a G35 anyway? lol I think I know the answer, just want to hear it.

The G35 was the other car...the original poster drove a 240z.

[grantman240z]

The G35 was the other car...the original poster drove a 240z.

Bad Joe!

[Sentientbydesign]

The G35 was the other car...the original poster drove a 240z.

I no tink so (In old asian man voice). I'm pretty sure the OP was driving the G35.

[telcoman]

(Even you ol' farts).

Excuse me!

The police in Md are cracking down because of recent deaths in Illegal drag racing.

[Sentientbydesign]

I know this belongs in rn's new home, but here's my POV.

This damned planet has too many people on it. Especially stupid ones.

Why the hell should traffic stop because some dumb kid can't stay on the sidewalk when he/she gets off a bus? Why can't parents take more responsibility and make sure their kids don't run into the streets without looking? My mother-in-law's two shih-tzus know better and their brains are the size of kiwis (the fruits, not the little birds).

I agree that street racing can be dangerous and that the OP made a stupid mistake, but I also love how many of our liberties are taken away because of ignorant tax-dollar depleating losers.

Sorry guys, my neighbor pissed me off this morning and she's a perfect example of what I've described. 3 kids, doesn't work. Supposedly goes to school and the 3 kids and new dog would be better behaved if they grew up like the Jungle Book kid.

[smockers83]

Why the hell should traffic stop because some dumb kid can't stay on the sidewalk when he/she gets off a bus?

Not everyone lives on the same side of the street. A child's mental capacity just isn't there to make all the right decisions and a lot of their thinking also revolves around them, not others. So to make it safer and since he knows he can cross safely is why traffic has to stop to allow kids who live on the other side of the street to cross.

[Sentientbydesign]

I still want to know why my mother-in-law's 4 y/o shih-tzu has a greater mental capacity than the majority of children.

Doesn't that say something about our society and where it's going?

Plus, in my neck of the woods, our tax dollars also pay for numerous crossing guards. Those kids are just poorly trained!!!

[telcoman]

I know this belongs in rn's new home, but here's my POV.

This damned planet has too many people on it. Especially stupid ones.

Why the hell should traffic stop because some dumb kid can't stay on the sidewalk when he/she gets off a bus? I agree that street racing can be dangerous and that the OP made a stupid mistake, but I also love how many of our liberties are taken away because of ignorant tax-dollar depleating losers.

Sentientbydesign

Perhaps you are just having a bad day but our civil liberties are not being taken away by laws prohibiting illegal street racing. I seem to recall the same arguments when seat belt laws were first passed, smoking was banned, mandatory car insurance, etc.How is it that our ignorant president and the present government officials can confiscate kniting needles from grandmothers at our airports and yet declare waterboarding is not torture and its okay to carry submachine guns? Where is the outcry?

We have traffic laws in this country and in a civilized society citizens are expected to obey them.

Those that race illegally are lucky they didn't injure or kill someone and have their vehicle siezed, driving privledges suspended and spend some time in jail.

[rn79870]

I think the majority of the world hates street racing, and the carnage it can cause.

Maybe this is what we need, little off ramps every so often for "special" drivers.

[Sentientbydesign]

Telco,

You're right. I am having a bad day, but I see too many good citizens getting ticketed, imprisoned...etc while lazy REAL criminals get to run around creating havoc for the rest of us.

Street racing is wrong. Displaying what we paid for isn't. If I want to rev my engine at a stop light, that should be my perogative. I also don't understand why peeling out is causing anyone harm either.

[g35sedanlover]

lawyer.... lawyer, lawyer, lawyer!!! No matter how smart you are, they know the court system a lot better then you or I. Let them do all the work.

[drcop]

Hmmm..the cop drinking coffee and cramming his face with powdered doughnuts....that's ORIGINAL! Because the cop has nothing else better to do than to search the neighbourhood looking for idiots who happen to think that a public street is the place to prove one's testosterone is a tad higher than the other driver via their rides.

Listen guys, you may tell what my profession is by virtue of my name but realize this, and I speak from raw experience. I worked street crew in Vancouver, BC (in one of the burbs) and I've been to many street race related accidents some ending tragically and then I've attended a funeral for one of my partners who was killed by being t-boned in his PC by a street racer. You know what my partner was doing at the time. Oh nothing important...just responding to a house alarm. It may very well have been a burglary or theft in progress, whatever, he was responding to Joe Public whom he swore to protect and serve, even if it meant issuing out a few tickets to ppl who speed just in case it saves a life or lives one day, maybe your own....and in the process, he gave up HIS OWN while doing so.

Go ahead, street race and then blame the d!ck cops for pulling you over and handing out 'outrageous" tickets!! I don't understand how you could afford $$$ cars but cry like @#A% babies when you do something stupid and end up having to pay $$$. Makes no flipping sense.

DrCOP

[rn79870]

drcop, most of us here realize that driving a car in a reckless manner jeopardizes more than the car and the driver. In fact, there have been several threads here about tragic outcomes from street racing. The vast majority of us support law enforcement and its effort to make the streets safer. Thanks for your efforts towards the same goal.

[Sentientbydesign]

We cry because we spent so much on the cars that we can't afford the tickets.

I agree that terrible situations can occur and I'm very sorry to hear about your partner. I am a law abiding citizen (with occasional speeding). Unfortunately, in my life, I've only had two good run-ins with police. The others have all been horrible, regardless of what side of the law I was on.

Two of the worst were trying to recover a friend's stolen car. We found it (not the police) and tried to get an officer/deputy to come help us recover it. They took over 4 hours to help us, despite there being 2 patrol cars just driving around casually.

Another incident involved drug dealers that lived across the road from us who vandalized my mom's car. They got mad at us one day because my dad told them off for putting Vaseline under our car door handle and three white-trash men came and jumped my dad (one with a knife). We continuously called the police and they took over an hour to get there.

My grandpa who was 30+ miles away (retired sheriff) got there before the police did.

So to all of the police officers and deputies that do there job and really do protect us, THANK YOU. To all of the a$$holes that I've dealt with

If our local government invested half of the money they do for preventing speeding into local venues for "speed racers" to let out some steam, we'd probably have less speeding and better drivers.

[drcop]

Thank you and sorry....(i was venting....i'm human too and from time to time a want to push my G so bad but I gotta realize my surroundings and the possible harm I could do if something went wrong!) Listen, have no beefs about someone griping about getting a ticket from an overzelous cop who thinks giving a ticket for doing 60 in a 55 zone is doing a service. Most of us cops realize that when you issue a VT (violation ticket) you are probably ruining that person's day. I only chose to VT someone whom either deserved it outright by excessively speeding, or who "talked" himself into it by comments such as "don't you have any real crimes to go after such as murder or something?" (Yup, there's a muder in progress going on right now but I don"t feel like filling out all the paperwork so I choose to stop you for speeding instead!!!)

BTW, I once got pulled over in Florida for doing 40 in a 35 zone and got ticketed, so I know how it feels. I don't particularly think it was fair, but was the cop wrong? No....but he could have relaxed a bit....speeding is one thing that is quite often left up to interpretation of the one who isues the ticket, but street racing is another whole issue and is pretty clearly defined!

Don't do it, it's really not worth it!

[drcop]

Oh and I almost forgot...you know what we cops did after my partner's death? We initially went out on a "zero policy" blitz and pretty much ticketed every kid that moves and then realized that was the qrong thing to do. So after much deliberation (and organization) we set up a secure track and and invited those youths with quick rides to come out and test their cars under controlled, supervised and most importantly..SAFE conditions. and you know what, they loved it. They were able to push their cars with no fear of jeapardizing safety or, lol, getting slammed with a ticket! It was a huge success!

So kudos to those who choose to express themselves on a track!

[G35_Rican30]

I agree with DR COP on this, honestly yes people make mistakes...we all do but there also has to be a level of responsibility as well, remember guys/gals driving is a PRIVILEGE and not a right !!, when we get behind a wheel of a car we become a dangerous weapon in the fact that we can cause alot of damage, now when you street race your even more dangerous. IMHO i think street racers should get the "book" thrown at them, i think a 1 yr license suspension and a mandatory safe drivers course plus all fines given plus a 6month to 1 yr car impound would send a strong message to all street racers. Now god forbid if they had caused a death...prison time baby !!...it would be a damn shame that some innocent person gets killed cause some street racing punk decided not to use their better judgement.

BTW- I feel the same for people who drink and drive as well

[lucidd]

Telco,

You're right. I am having a bad day, but I see too many good citizens getting ticketed, imprisoned...etc while lazy REAL criminals get to run around creating havoc for the rest of us.

Street racing is wrong. Displaying what we paid for isn't. If I want to rev my engine at a stop light, that should be my perogative. I also don't understand why peeling out is causing anyone harm either.

I agree... I try not to post on sensitive topic discussions anymore because it seems that my low post count / new member status affects the strengths in my words ... ...

but here goes nothing: I agree. I'd like to see the cops / politicians focus on the more important issues - like gun violence / homicides and the issues abroad etc. vs. punishing us hard working tax payers with hot rods - that yes, we paid for.

L

ps. to the original topic: good luck in court. If you get off - learn from it ... but if you do not, pay the fines - it is just money... noone got hurt* --- and then finally, learn from it.

Thank goodness, no matter what happens, we never stop learning.

[Focusedintntions]

Yes there are too many laws protecting stupid people and we're cancelling out darwinism, however, laws against street racing are not for the protection of the "racers", but for the other people that have to drive on those same streets.

[rn79870]

I agree... I try not to post on sensitive topic discussions anymore because it seems that my low post count / new member status affects the strengths in my words ... ...

I couldn't disagree more. Post count has nothing to do with worthy contribution. If you have something to say, please do so. People will get to know you better and respond more to you. I for one, would rather hear from more people than hear more from some people. Post away, we're family.

[Jacko3]

As far as I am concerned, the only issue i worry about with "G35RidinVolks", is evasion of law enforcement. After reading his comments, I think he was more so seeking advice than bragging over his exploits. This forum should allow for free speech. The young man was seeking help. If you don't have help to offeer, then, keep quiet. I wouldn't advice anyone to run from the cops---cop chases are bad and nerve racking. I have chased a car before, after the driver hit me, and I came to respect and appreciate cops for the dealdy work they do. I probably won't go after another car that hits me, again, in my life.

Sentientbydesign, rn79870, and Focusedintentions, made some good points. Cities and states should take advantage of the societal need for performance driving by creating roads and small tracks for people to go out and test out their cars. They can generate a lot of cash doing this. Please this article posted on USATODAY, http://www.usatoday.com/money/...N.htm.

The cars of today have far more capability, in terms of safety and performance, than the rules of the road will allow. Cars don't kill. Stupidity does.

In addition, the cars of today require a new set of thinking and mindset. That thought process and mindset should be built into a new drivers license system. For example, the license sysetm does not take into account if the car's handling is affected by a sports-tuned suspension, VDC, AWD, Rear Active Steer, 4WAS, etc. These features matter a great deal. The drivers license system we have today were designed for cars made prior to the 70s. How can any reasonable person expect the same rules to apply to a car made in 2008, with all the features I have outlined above? It is this mismatch that is causing drivers to drive their cars without any respect and knowledge of the true capabaility of their cars, thus, ending up as accidents and deaths.

For example, a person tested with the current drivers license system, which was probably designed for a Ford Pinto, may eventually be behind the wheels of a G-35 Infiniti, Mitsubishi Evo, Subaru Wrx Sti, Mazda Speed 6, etc. Anyone of these cars is likely going to be a moving weapon or danger on the streets---no matter the speeds you are on, and no matter who is driving them, simply because, the driver may have mismatched skills with the vehicles capabilities, since all of these cars are moderately powerful cars, requiring a greater degree of driving skill to handle. The higher the power and torque of a car, the more respect and care is required in driving the car, until the driver gets used to the cars capabilities. This may take months, in most cases.

Even I myself, have tremendous respect for my G-35 Coupe. Even though I drive it hard, I do so with great caution, knowing fully well that i can loose this car in an accident at any moment simply becasue it has happened to me before. I was lucky, and on that day, and I learnt very quickly about the limits and behaviopr of a car with 300 horses. Fairly different from the behavior of a car with less than 200 horses. And I can imagine how much more dangerous it can get with cars approaching 400 horses and beyond.

This known danger will probably not stop me form taking off at a traffic light. Rather, my deliberate consciousness of this fact, will enable me take-off at a light with deliberate caution and forethought. I think the solution to driver accident in the 21st century, is better driver training and more rigorous licensing requirements such as is the case in Germany. The cars of today will never again be puny in the amount of power they have. These cars will always be powerful. The drivers license system and law enforcement, need to be cognizant of these facts. Even the good 'ol Toyota Camry, family car, is now becoming a muscle car--check out the V-6 Toyota Camry---pretty impressive.

[k@osx71]

havn't seen any replies from the OP~ where'd they go?!?!

[joe603]

Bad Joe!

My bad...read it too quick. OP had the G35

[rn79870]

Well heres the deal i got caught street racing a 95 240sx. The cop pulled him over so i kept my foot on the gas and left. The guy who i was racing said i rolled down my window and said do you think your 240 is quicker than my g35.

The police have a very effective tactic of makeing such a statement in order to get you to incriminate yourself.

When he stated what the other driver said about your car being faster, and you responded with anything relative to what was said, you just proved you were the one he was after.

How exactally did you respond to his statement about what the other driver said.

How did you know it was a 95 240? Do you know the guy?

[Sentientbydesign]

Jacko,

For once we completely agree. I've been touting this method of licensing for a couple of years now. I think that multiple levels of the Class C license should be available.

The lowest level would be similiar to what is currently available, then upgrades which require strict training. These upgraded licenses would either allow for driving higher performance cars, or for the type of driving you are allowed to do. Just think if the HOV/Carpool lanes were actually 100 MPH lanes for high Class C drivers. The low Class C drivers can deal with the bumper to bumper traffic.

I think that behind the wheel testing should be made mandatory for more than just the initial acquisition of a driver's license.

[Jacko3]

Sentientbydesign:

I agree!