Front end too high!!

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:My god this thread is full of fail, mostly by the op. I'm leaving. Bye.


omg people...

with lowering springs, naturally, the rear end will have less of a wheel gap than the front end. This is normal!

DOn't like it? Save up for coilovers then!


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disrupt wrote:this thread is amusing.As for cutting springs. Most modern springs are progressive. This means that as the spring is compressed it take more force to compress it. Example the first inch might take 100 lbs but the second inch might take 150 more lbs.

Now all your springs are not all the same and maybe they don't have enough pre load in them to stay in the correct location in the strut.

Even worst is heating springs to lower them. Consider this. The manufacturer bought some metal with reasonable properties that were achieved through controlled heating and controlled cooling and working or forming yielding a uniform metal grain size and shape. Then they cold or hot worked the metal into a spring shape and sold it to you to provide a specific spring rate maybe even a nice progressive spring rate.

Now you heat it in a garage with a torch to an unknown temperature and allow it to cool unevenly due to some parts of the spring touching other metal and some not and at an uncontrolled rate. You just ruined all the effort that has been put it in to making those springs. The effort that you paid for.
Sorry to pee on your parade, but your little speech has fallen on deaf ears. The majority of us are perfectly aware how stupid of an idea it is to cut/heat springs to lower them. We know full well what can happen, and its a bad idea on way too many levels.

The problem is, the people who are cutting/heating the springs in the first place are the same people who will refuse to listen to logic on a repeated basis. They absolutely do not care as long as their car is slammed.

Ive always said that the worst tuners are those with more money than sense, but sometimes you come across the unlucky fool with neither. These are the kids that scare me.

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adrians_s13 wrote:

omg people...

with lowering springs, naturally, the rear end will have less of a wheel gap than the front end. This is normal!

DOn't like it? Save up for coilovers then!
word do people not realize the front fender is a larger opening then the rear on almost every car in history? they lower the same, but it looks taller in the front.

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When I put new struts equivilent to OEM my front end was about an inch higher. I decided to cut the front (stock) springs. My car has no problems with it. If you cut the springs it changes the spring rate on it. They make the front stiffer due to the shortening of the spring.

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1KleenS13 wrote:When I put new struts equivilent to OEM my front end was about an inch higher. I decided to cut the front (stock) springs. My car has no problems with it. If you cut the springs it changes the spring rate on it. They make the front stiffer due to the shortening of the spring.
The overall spring rate may change, but not for the better. You only though it got stiffer, most likely because you were riding the bump stops.

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adrians_s13 wrote:

omg people...

with lowering springs, naturally, the rear end will have less of a wheel gap than the front end. This is normal!

DOn't like it? Save up for coilovers then!
well with my car its really even. I have an rb in my car and so the front sits lower than it should with my sportsline springs. the car is pretty level across the board. i have friends that have coilovers on their car and mine sits lower in the front then theirs do and im on struts and springs.


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