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ALL YOUR PHOTOS ARE BELONG TO US!!!! BWAHAHA this is ridiculous, i don't really know what else to say


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Epic amounts of FAIL from Ford on this one.

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You know companies are getting desperate when they start suing their customers.

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Eikon wrote:I don't think Ford cares much about owners putting pictures of their car on a calender.

It's the PROFIT that they are making from that calender that Ford is after. Ford is claiming that the shape, logo, likeness etc. when used for a profitable exercise is against patent laws.

I can understand that.

I do not agree with it. I think it's a completely retarded thing to do. What a bunch of morons!!!


as stated, it's because they're selling these calendars where Ford could sell them instead

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dude wtf???? personally i dont like Ford but this kind of crap pisses me off.greedy bastards...

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haha this gave me a chuckle

guy1: I have the pony on my right arm what are they going to do make me slice it off? does this mean i cant get the cobra tattood on my other arm?

guy2: Sorry, man, but that Cobra tat is a no go. And you're not alone...my right leg's gotta get hacked off too.

Got an idea though. Let's chop off the offending body parts and then apply for a job at F@7d. When they don't hire us, we can sue them for discrimination!

haha

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WTF (F for F*rd)?
ishkabibble wrote:You know companies are getting desperate when they start suing their customers.
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NSR_s30 wrote:Epic amounts of FAIL from Ford on this one.
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NismoDriver240 wrote:
as stated, it's because they're selling these calendars where Ford could sell them instead
Who gives a ****?!

The cars are not F*rds cars!

If you were to build lets say a boat, and you sold it to your buddy than your buddy started renting it to make a profit than can you go and tell your buddy that that is a no no because you could be renting and making the money?? SH*T no you couldn't!! The boat is no longer yours.

If F*rd was smart then they would pay the company $1 for every calender that sold to encourage them to sell more and therefore have better advertising.

F*rd spends MILLIONS and MILLIONS in advertising a year and this is one of the most effective ways to do it!


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like i said, i think it is stupid, but thats probably what they're going on, the fact the BMC is stealing their potential money. idk, i'm not their lawyer, i think its just as dumb as all of you do

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This is how conglomerates destroy any sense of pride/identity/ownership associated with putting hard work into something someone owns.

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Hahahaha. What a bunch of losers. Some kind of a calender will bring them outta debt? Gimme a break, f*ck that piece of sh1t.

FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily. FAIL.

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Now in fairness to Furd, all their products I've owned spent far less time and money being repaired than my Nissans, and I've recommended some to friends who have been really pleased.

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kornaz wrote:Hahahaha. What a bunch of losers. Some kind of a calender will bring them outta debt? Gimme a break, f*ck that piece of sh1t.

FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily. FAIL.
Ford continues to amaze me by their continued arrogance and mismanagement. Being in dire financial straits, it's understandable that Ford is desperate to raise cash by enforcing payments for usage of their trademark logo/images. But their management has obviously failed to use any common sense as to who they target for enforcement. It's incredibly short sighted of Ford managament to unleash their legal pit bulls on their most devoted customers. And Ford wonders why their sales are slumping?

With such short sighted people at the helm at Ford, I suspect their stock has not bottomed out yet.


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Jesda wrote:Now in fairness to Furd, all their products I've owned spent far less time and money being repaired than my Nissans, and I've recommended some to friends who have been really pleased.
I've had the opposite experience. 6 years and 134k miles with the Max has resulted in no mechanical issues at this point. 6 years and 120k miles on my last Ford product resulted in multiple replaced calipers, one transmission, multiple plug wire sets, two sets of CV boots and one valve cover gasket. The other Nissan vehicles I have owned have had no issues as well.

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I did spend more money on my 01 Pathy (sensors - 02, camshaft) than I did on any of my previous furds. I'm not in love with any car maker, but my furds did hold up fairly well.We've own/owned several nissans/infiniti's and they are my preferred brand now!

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I'll buy another Nissan product when management resolves its indifference toward quality and customer care. For now, Nissan is just a flimsy shell of Renault, a company whose awful cars we rejected long ago.

Meanwhile, Ford, GM, Hyundai, and Honda are able to show strong improvements in quality control and owner satisfaction, resulting in higher resale and fewer warranty claims.

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audtatious wrote:
I've had the opposite experience. 6 years and 134k miles with the Max has resulted in no mechanical issues at this point. 6 years and 120k miles on my last Ford product resulted in multiple replaced calipers, one transmission, multiple plug wire sets, two sets of CV boots and one valve cover gasket. The other Nissan vehicles I have owned have had no issues as well.
Same here. I've had no issues at all with any my Nissans or Toyotas. And the worst vehicle I ever had by far was a Ford (Mercury) that I had leased new. I swore off Ford vehicles after having to fight to get them to cover obvious warranty items.


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I've had good luck with Toyota as well. The only Toyota I have had problems with began after 200k miles. By 280k I had a new transmission, motor and rear end.

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Bubba1 wrote:
Same here. I've had no issues at all with any my Nissans or Toyotas. And the worst vehicle I ever had by far was a Ford (Mercury) that I had leased new. I swore off Ford vehicles after having to fight to get them to cover obvious warranty items.
Sounds like Infiniti NA blaming owners of 02+ Q45s and M45s for oil consumption and engine failures. The 6/70 powertrain warranty helps, but knowing that Nissan might call their worthless engineering my fault keeps me from buying what I want:Or Toyota and Chrysler blaming owners for sludge and transmission failures.

Ford and GM still have a ways to go. Ford weaseled its way out of covering fuel tank explosion prevention updates on the FCV/MGM/LTC, and finally offered to do it only on police/FD fleet vehicles. GM had an issue with insufficiently lubricated steering parts on the Impala that could lead to a potential loss of control, but covered them.

So far, at least with Cadillac, GM gave high-ranked dealers the freedom to cover repairs just out of or not normally covered by the factory warranty. As a result, owner satisfaction rose dramatically.

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Don't forget that Ford did eventually settled the "cracking intake" lawsuit and wasn't there a issue with Cobra HP numbers a few years back that they eventually settled?

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my family stopped ownng fords back in 1995 when my mom sold her 1992 ford taurus that had been in the shop for every thing imaginable. we sold it with two broken engine mounts.

and then in 2004 my mom made me buy a ford ranger rebadged as a mazda b2300. i was good untill 6 months ago when it just started to fall apart. exactly when the warrenty expired. now it sounds funny when i start it. half of the dash lights have shorted out. it will idle really low for 30 seconds then rev to 2k and set its idle there. i just dont know. im gonna sell it in 2 months anyway and get an s13. **** ford and **** all non built from the ground up mazdas

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Mym Mars wrote:my family stopped ownng fords back in 1995 when my mom sold her 1992 ford taurus that had been in the shop for every thing imaginable. we sold it with two broken engine mounts.

and then in 2004 my mom made me buy a ford ranger rebadged as a mazda b2300. i was good untill 6 months ago when it just started to fall apart. exactly when the warrenty expired. now it sounds funny when i start it. half of the dash lights have shorted out. it will idle really low for 30 seconds then rev to 2k and set its idle there. i just dont know. im gonna sell it in 2 months anyway and get an s13. **** ford and **** all non built from the ground up mazdas
I had a 91 Explorer with 180k (ran fine when I let it go) and a 95 626 with 250k (also ran GREAT because it was a manual). Both built in the US by UAW Ford/AA with domestic parts.

I've never been crazy enough to buy a Taurus. Helps that I do my research.

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I like how the majority of the cars on that site have big CENSORED flag over them.

That is ****ING bull ****!

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Jesda wrote:I had a 91 Explorer with 180k
And you never flipped it?

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Wow, this qualifies as one of the most self centered things I have ever seen a corporation as big as Ford do. I understand their right and claim of trademark infringement and I know its not necessary but what statistics do they have proving that online photos of owners vehicles negatively impacts their sales? If anything I could see the opposite, but I guess its their loss not mine.

I grew up in a Ford family and was the first one to separate buying my 240sx. As it stands right now my parents house alone has 3 ford vehicles, including my POS broken down Tempo. My brother's house holds 4 Fords that he enjoys. I can promise that once my family finds out how much they have supported a short sighted, egotistical corporation that they will never buy another. This example alone demonstrates the potential loss of revenue Ford is risking from their actions, however, the revenue loss IMO is not the worst; the fact that this is effectively targeting their most loyal customers is the biggest back stab they could do. You would imagine that they would at least sit back and roll the dollar signs to the back of their heads, even if its just for one minute, and think about the picture they are painting of themselves and the effect that this is going to have on their clients, most of which own their second biggest investment through Ford.


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Jesda wrote:Now in fairness to Furd, all their products I've owned spent far less time and money being repaired than my Nissans, and I've recommended some to friends who have been really pleased.
audtatious wrote:
I've had the opposite experience. 6 years and 134k miles with the Max has resulted in no mechanical issues at this point. 6 years and 120k miles on my last Ford product resulted in multiple replaced calipers, one transmission, multiple plug wire sets, two sets of CV boots and one valve cover gasket. The other Nissan vehicles I have owned have had no issues as well.
Yeah my hardbody which my dad got in '93 has had nearly any problems at all (*knocks on wood*) in the form of altenator, automatic hubs went out, and I just replaced the starter. In my opinion thats not shabby for a 15 year old truck with 145k miles.

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I'll bet that when F*rd did all this they figured that it would just get swept under the rug. If they had any idea the impact it would have I'll bet they wouldn't have done it.

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Woot! wrote:I'll bet that when F*rd did all this they figured that it would just get swept under the rug. If they had any idea the impact it would have I'll bet they wouldn't have done it.
Until Ford sees a slide in sales that they can attribute to this legal policy, I don't see them changing it. I'm glad I don't own a Ford vehicle.

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I wonder if management knows that the legal department is doing this. Even if they don't, it just shows how large, bureaucratic, and disorganized the company is. Farking ridiculous.

I wonder if Mr Mullally has seen this thread.

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The only way ford could redeem themselves even a little is if they bring the Focus RS to the states.

Ford = FAIL

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