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nlzmo400r
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well guys, the time has finally come, im going to order coilovers fairly soon. I've done research (much of which was here on NICO) and from what i hear, D2's are great bang for hte buck. I'd just like some feedback on everyone who owns coilovers: just state what kind and what u think about them, perhaps their best or worst attribute? I dont really have the money for anything like FLT-A2's or anything, POSSIBLY HE's. One other questoin i have, is will i definitely need spacers? I've got the stock 7spoke alloys (15x6 4omm offset, 2o5/5o's) will they clear or should i just spend the 2oo bucks and get spacers. And if i do get spacers, how much, i think 5-8mm would work, but if i get different rims in the near future (something more like 16x8-16x9 1o's-2o's mm offset) will i have to get bigger spacers then? Thanks in advance, sorry for such a long post, check hte poll plz- Rob

edit: used coilovers? worth buying? u know everyone that has em on 24o's dogs em, just seein if they're worth the savings of a few hundred, or what if they're already rebuilt?on budget (but am willing to save), help me out


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D2's haven't been out long enough for any problems to come up. Plus with the odd issues with quality I've seen I don't think they will ever be as good as a Tein coilover in my book.

HE's all the way.

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Plenty happy with the D2's quality... and even happier that I could spend the extra $800+ that I saved on something else... like tires and wheels!

Only time and miles will tell how happy I stay with the D2's.

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By the way, your stock wheels will clear coilovers. You generally only run into issues when you try to fit improperly sized aftermarket wheels with them.

Anyway, I have yet to even install my d2's... still searching for the lucky 240sx to put them on.(and all the other stuff that I've been collecting the past several months)

..and I would take the responses in this thread with a grain of salt. If people are happy with the coilovers that they have, they're going to advocate them, so it's all subjective. I doubt anyone has tried all of the brands and compared them on the same car... so your best bet is to read some of the reviews... and select the one that seems to best fits your needs. If you're not a gamb|ing person, the he's or the flt-a2's should do you well. ..but if you're feeling lucky, the d2's could be a good, and possibly the best investment.

Dystopia
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Other

Silk Road/Section Coilovers

a large amount of coils that come from japan are made by section and other people pay a ton more for them. even the new GP-sports gr-6 is a section product

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I plan on getting FLTA2s in the fall.

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i have HE's and i like them a ton. They are very creeky, but if i had installed the optional rubber bushing (off of old stock suspension) That woudltn be an issue.

EDIT: I wont vote in the poll b/c i have never experienced any of the other setups.

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Cyberkreig wrote:EDIT: I wont vote in the poll b/c i have never experienced any of the other setups.


Werd. :)

daniel
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HE is dope

run with pillowball

best bang for your bucki can get them to you for $1150 every day price, come with 10 people and the price will drop even more.

if i could pick anything i would run Apex'i N1 Probest damper on the market.

nlzmo400r
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how low would that price be if i could get a group buy or somehting?

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LOL! I havent heard the word dope in mad long.

Anyway Ill say go for the HE. My friend has them and they arent too bad, but if you're on a tight budget Id just get the D2s. Of course like Nismo_Freak said, they dont have much of a history. As of right now there arent any complaints, but if you want to take the risk go ahead.

daniel
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dude...d2 coilover is good for the front like i've said

BUT YOU CANNOT SLAM THE REAR ENOUGH

the front is good...but you just cant get a good ride height so you drive sloppy with them...

as for the GB

get the GB then i'll get you the price..maybe i can swing 1075 or something..nothing for sure till you got 10

nlzmo400r
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well i dont wanna slam the rear. Hell i dont wanna slam anything on my car, i live in new orleans, the roads arent the greatest. I just wanna drop it enough to eliminate some of the wheel gap, and give the car a lower moment of intertia and lower center of gravity, i dont want it that low though, i like my oil pan

daniel
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then you're better just getting a shock/spring combo!!

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daniel wrote:then you're better just getting a shock/spring combo!!


WHAT?

If you can afford coilovers (any coilover pretty much) then buy coilovers! The adjustability is a plus, the components are DESIGNED to work together, and the installation is easier.

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Maybe Daniel is thinking of super crappy "coil overs" like what are they, drop zone? Those junky "coilover" sets that come with springs & spring seats but no shocks.

daniel
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no.

if he doesnt want to slam his carif he wants a cushy ride because he has "bad streets"

then i think he should get some kg/mm s21 spring and some AGX shocks

mainexport-

as far as coilover being designed to work together, this is not true, they just put a spring on that is within the dampening range of the shock they use...why do you think you can go up and down spring rates on coilovers? because they're within the dampening range..you keep the same shock but just change the spring..

cyberkreig- those weld onstyle coilovers actually are not bad, its just the quality of them that is important.

Trust me dudeif you just want to eliminate some wheelgap get some proper tires, and a spring and shock combo.

you will thank me later

if you want to slam your car and compete in track eventsget some coilovers and cornerweight your car and get it overwith

you cant have the best of both worlds.

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first of all, i never wanted a cushy ride (if i did, i wouldnt have gotten a 24o, i woulda gotten an infiniti), i just dont want to punch in the bottom of my oil pan on a pot hole around here, and therefore dont want to drop the car too much. I wan 9/7 kg when i get the coilovers, so im not looking for a cushy ride, thats what i have my o2 altima for. Also, this car is almost just a track whore, its pretty much weekends only. Quality is a huge issue with me, and is basically why i started this thread, to get some feedback of people who have bought and used the products first hand. Thanks for the replies though, keep em coming

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daniel wrote:mainexport-

as far as coilover being designed to work together, this is not true, they just put a spring on that is within the dampening range of the shock they use...why do you think you can go up and down spring rates on coilovers? because they're within the dampening range..you keep the same shock but just change the spring..


So you are saying that JIC and Tein are full of s*** when they say they match the gas charge and valves in the damper to match whatever spring rate you chose?

MOST quality coilovers are designed so that the components work in conjunction with eachother. My point is that a coilover is designed and built by the same company and their R&D goes into a design that matches one item to another. Whereas KYB and Eibach don't communicate with eachother and design products that are specifically designed to compliment each other.

daniel
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to nlzmo400r first of all

9/7..have you ridden in a car with that rate? did you pull it out of your ***? i know you prob want that rate tos ay you have it...

maineexport

i am saying that they are not going to the extra trouble to revalve and redo everything when you order a custom spring ratethey can take a range of rates from 1kgmm-Xkgmm

i'm not sure if you understand this.

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Originally posted by daniel "]to nlzmo400r first of all

9/7..have you ridden in a car with that rate? did you pull it out of your ***? i know you prob want that rate tos ay you have it...

That kind of crap is exactly what we DON'T need around here. If you have an opinion... feel free to express it... but stay away from abusive language like that.

Also, I run a 9/7 spring rate on my daily driven s14. It is quite streetable. maineexport

i am saying that they are not going to the extra trouble to revalve and redo everything when you order a custom spring ratethey can take a range of rates from 1kgmm-Xkgmm

Acutally, some of the higher end companies do just that. Although they aren't going to "redo" anything... they are separate components until they are assembled after the order is placed. But you are completely right... most companies do just what you say.

Word of advice... watch your tone... you come off as an arrogant punk.

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Yea man continue that kinda talk and you are bound to be disliked and/or banned.

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daniel wrote:to nlzmo400r first of all

9/7..have you ridden in a car with that rate? did you pull it out of your ***? i know you prob want that rate tos ay you have it...

maineexport

i am saying that they are not going to the extra trouble to revalve and redo everything when you order a custom spring ratethey can take a range of rates from 1kgmm-Xkgmm

i'm not sure if you understand this.
wow, quick to jump someones case eh? i have 4 or 5 close friends with 24o's. First eddie (a friend of mine with an 89) rode on eibach prokit and kyb shocks, waaay too soft for a good track car. Then he managed to get himself some JIC flta-1's, very nice coilovers and he ran an 8/6 which was fine on the street and still very good at the track. Another buddy of mine bryan used 12/1o's in his track car(s14) and that was a tad stiff to me to run on the street(damn near rattled the fillings out of my head). So, taking this into account, i figured since i liked eddie's set up, i would go one stiffer since my car isnt driven around the street THAT much, and does attend track events. And don't take this so personal, you act as if im a newbie coming here and telling you i smoked a civic and be proud of me. I'm more knowledgable than you may think or even give me credit for, and for as well as you know me, i just may be more knowledgable than even you.

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Some of you may not know daniel or know of him but he does know his ****.

And i seriously doubt that tein or JIC will revalve yiour stuff rather than just swa[ping the springs and sending them out. Ohlins may or say some custom leada stuff but JIC and Tein come on.

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im not doubting daniels' knowledge at all, he just came off pretty harsh and rude thats all

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Dystopia wrote:Some of you may not know daniel or know of him but he does know his ****.


I don't care if he's a freakin' rocket scientist. A prick is a prick. And this is the third thread I've seen his misinformation being corrected in.

dreamsOfSkylines
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"Slamming" your "ride" changes the carefully designed suspension geometry unless you raise the cnotrol arm mounting points.

Dystopia
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that can all be corrected

daniel
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man.

i only post here cuz anand asked me toyou guys seriously need to get a clue

Ohlins doesnt even redo their damper for you unless you are a race team..

even then it is a PITA to get them to do it..if u REALLY want cusotm **** Advance Design is the only place to go to.

and what misinformation?

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Dystopia wrote:that can all be corrected


You can correct the camber/caster/toe with adjustable control arms (Which most people can't afford) but the only way to make your control arms parallel with the ground again is by moving the control arm mounting points up (which would require some cutting/welding in the front and a custom rear subframe). So unless you have the means to do all this stuff, "slamming" your car is retarded.


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