Fastest car, for cheapest $

[Jesda]

Y'all getting too serious in this thread. Gulati, out.


Also, what bubba said.

[Koshin]

2007 Honda Civic Si

[AZhitman]

None of it matters until you go drive at a few events.

I've seen too many people walk away from their 2nd or 3rd HPDE and never strap a helmet on again.

[skydragoness]

None of it matters until you go drive at a few events.

I've seen too many people walk away from their 2nd or 3rd HPDE and never strap a helmet on again.

Wonder what it is...

I was out of autocrossing for a couple of years due to school and other crap going on in my life. I'm so glad to be back in it again.

[bigbadberry3]

New 5.0 Mustang is pretty snappy.

[Koshin]

yes it is

[Dattebayo]

I guess you can't read, huh.

[Zydeco]

The STi does NOT have a "a$$ transmission." The WRX ones are a little weak, but the STi uses a totally different, totally overbuilt (internal oil pump, anyone?) transmission.

That's how they have been described to me by former STI owners. I have heard that the current Gen does not have nearly the same issue.

Ive got 95,XXX miles on my STi and no problems with the transmission at all. Hell the I'm still on the OG clutch too.

[VMPhil]

Ive got 95,XXX miles on my STi and no problems with the transmission at all. Hell the I'm still on the OG clutch too.

Good to know. The guys I knew used to drag race theirs. They have done more than a few hard launches....

2007 Honda Civic Si

Do you know how many people online between the Car Lounge and 8th Civic that have said they regretted buying one when they saw what they could get a Mazda Speed 3 for? Too many.

[Zydeco]

Good to know. The guys I knew used to drag race theirs. They have done more than a few hard launches....

yeah most cars break stuff drag racing. I've done a few launches too, less then 10 I'd guess. The few times I did launches, I was like this for like 30 mins. The feeling of 300hp pulling and pushing at the same time off the line is like nothing else.

[VMPhil]

Good to know. The guys I knew used to drag race theirs. They have done more than a few hard launches....

yeah most cars break stuff drag racing. I've done a few launches too, less then 10 I'd guess. The few times I did launches, I was like this for like 30 mins. The feeling of 300hp pulling and pushing at the same time off the line is like nothing else.

Im actually a big fan of the STI.


Lots a good advice posted by Az, Floating point and Bubba. I learned a quite a bit reading their posts.

[sentrastace]

It sounds like to me she's simply looking for something sportier/faster out of the box than what she's driving now and it must have a stick. I did not get the feeling she's looking for a hardcore autocross/race car, but something that could not only be a DD but could also enjoy at an HPDE, a car show, or perhaps an autocross if she's mindful of modifications. Am I right, Stace?

Your Sentra is more competent on the track than you give it credit, but I completely understand wanting something more inherently sporty. As far as disposing of your Sentra, you might want to try to sell it privately. It's a nice looking car, and the mods might be appealing to a young buyer. but the mods will not help on a trade in.

Yes, Bubba you are correct. Love you for being able to 1) read properly and 2) not tear me apart for absolutely no reason.
<3

[sentrastace]

Jim is effing amazing for writing up that info for me---BY FAR the most helpful person in all of this.
Instead of telling me what a dumbass i am and how i deviated from the topic, etc etc whatever the hell else was said,
he said, if you want to do X, THIS car is good. if you want to do Y, try THIS car instead. THIS is what is needed. Here is what you need for your best chances in SCCA.
PURE, constructive, helpful comments.

I realize half the cars I listed wouldnt do well in SCCA before i even listed them---but i still listed them because they ARE cars I want and there were no restrictions from anyone suggesting extra cars on the list and i listed those cars in order to get opinion/experience from anyone who has one or has driven one.

that was the point, not to say "why do you want an altima coupe for scca all you're concerned with is new and shiny" <---------not f*** helpful.

Thanks Jim, and Bubba, and VMPhil, and of course Greg and anyone else who offered their positive input.

[sentrastace]

Its a white Kouki? If its the same one, I think about a year ago I was dying to trade my beat up one + cash for his. I tried to give him what I could offer but he wouldn't take it. sad face because I reeeaaaally wanted it.

After reading throught this thread I have come to some conclusions..

1) Sell the current DD if you dont plan to keep it, which it sounds like you dont. Private sale with parts (its just easier).
2) IMO, the best cars to choose from is a C5 (my #1 choice overall by far). Greg was right from the start. STi, S2000s may be competitive too. All with mods of course and dont forget suspension matters too, not just hp.
3) No FWD, with MAYBE 1 or 2 exceptions like an Integra R or SRT4
4)GodofTraction is a d***. Learn to spell too.
5) Bigger means heavier, rollier, more hp for same speed. Not better
6) If it was me.. C5 track car + 92-95 Civic hatch beater DD = WINtastic

I like how you lay down the law too. Your little Sentra can kick all our asses around a corner!!

yeah thats it! how much did u offer cash on top of your trade? I wonder how much he wants total for it. I'd totally buy it if it were reasonable and in good condition...have u seen it up close? i've only seen it from the road.

Thanks for the tips

[RicerX]

Since I have beaten the Altima coupe horse for a good while now, I will say this if you're considering one -

Do NOT buy a CVT. I tried it out. If you're going to DD it, it's awesome. But don't settle for one. Having owned both, the 6MT V6 is an absolute beast compared to the CVT. In order to make it a better handling car, you really only need to do an LSD swap (the LSD that is optional on the B16 Spec V can be directly swapped into the 6MT the AC uses. there is a writeup on it by mcheddadi over on the coupe forums) and a good set of coilovers (Tein SS all the way). I'm sure you're open to these types of mods as it seems to interest you.

People dog the AC all the time because it's FWD, but I've seen several cars that rip it up on the AutoX that are FWD. It really comes down to what YOU want and not what other people say you should have.

As for as covering all fronts - the AC would be a good car for you. You live up north, and the FWD is the easiest thing for DDing anywhere really. Its stock wheels have a fairly common tire size so you won't have to pay out the arse for tires - parts are cheap because the drivetrain is shared across several Nissans, and the insurance isn't bad. Sure, there are better things out there, but the AC won't break you financially and it's a fun car.

On average, you can find a 6MT AC for around $25,000 slightly used (I just picked up a used 2010 for $24,980 with 12,000 miles on it - has leather, sunroof, ipod interface, HIDs, and bose.) If you go back to an 08 or 09, you're talking low $20k area. I've seen them as cheap as $18k with higher mileage though.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

that was the point, not to say "why do you want an altima coupe for scca all you're concerned with is new and shiny" <---------not f**king helpful.

Man, you're really not used to things not going your way, aren't you?

Reminds me of the episode of South Park where Kyle is voted the ugliest kid in school and they talk about narcissism and growing up maladjusted.

[alms24sebring]

yeah thats it! how much did u offer cash on top of your trade? I wonder how much he wants total for it. I'd totally buy it if it were reasonable and in good condition...have u seen it up close? i've only seen it from the road.

Thanks for the tips

Well 1st this was at a time where my car had ALOT of problems like locked a caliper, needed 2 tires at >$150 a piece (275/35/18), wiring issues, suspension issues, inspection issues, etc etc... and I was working a dead end job with little pay (obviously lol). I think I could only offer him $1000 tops + the car. He said it was 100% stock down to the filter, and yes it was a very clean 97 with low miles and original 5speed. DID WANT, but he couldnt take the offer.

Next time you see it, just stalk him and beg him to sell it when he parks. Im suprised he hasn't sold it yet actaully, IF its even the same dude. He coulda sold it to someone close by..

[Dattebayo]

Well 1st this was at a time where my car had ALOT of problems like locked a caliper, needed 2 tires at >$150 a piece (275/35/18), wiring issues

But those are all standard older car issues, especially for the 240 if it was the RR caliper or really either of the rear brakes. And inspection is really a scam in MD, so you have to expect problems there unless you have infinite time as a DIYer (or at least a garage and a backup car) or a good amount of money to fund the scam somehow...

[Eikon]

that was the point, not to say "why do you want an altima coupe for scca all you're concerned with is new and shiny" <---------not f**king helpful.

Man, you're really not used to things not going your way, aren't you?

Reminds me of the episode of South Park where Kyle is voted the ugliest kid in school and they talk about narcissism and growing up maladjusted.

Knock it off! If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Quit being a troll. If you can offer some helpful advice, do so... if not, see your way out of this thread.

[sentrastace]

Man, you're really not used to things not going your way, aren't you?

Reminds me of the episode of South Park where Kyle is voted the ugliest kid in school and they talk about narcissism and growing up maladjusted.

do you have a mute button?

[sentrastace]

Since I have beaten the Altima coupe horse for a good while now, I will say this if you're considering one -

Do NOT buy a CVT. I tried it out. If you're going to DD it, it's awesome. But don't settle for one. Having owned both, the 6MT V6 is an absolute beast compared to the CVT. In order to make it a better handling car, you really only need to do an LSD swap (the LSD that is optional on the B16 Spec V can be directly swapped into the 6MT the AC uses. there is a writeup on it by mcheddadi over on the coupe forums) and a good set of coilovers (Tein SS all the way). I'm sure you're open to these types of mods as it seems to interest you.

People dog the AC all the time because it's FWD, but I've seen several cars that rip it up on the AutoX that are FWD. It really comes down to what YOU want and not what other people say you should have.

As for as covering all fronts - the AC would be a good car for you. You live up north, and the FWD is the easiest thing for DDing anywhere really. Its stock wheels have a fairly common tire size so you won't have to pay out the arse for tires - parts are cheap because the drivetrain is shared across several Nissans, and the insurance isn't bad. Sure, there are better things out there, but the AC won't break you financially and it's a fun car.

On average, you can find a 6MT AC for around $25,000 slightly used (I just picked up a used 2010 for $24,980 with 12,000 miles on it - has leather, sunroof, ipod interface, HIDs, and bose.) If you go back to an 08 or 09, you're talking low $20k area. I've seen them as cheap as $18k with higher mileage though.

Thanks bro, appreciate that. I've loved AC's from day one of the reveal at the auto shows, so they're still on my list. that and the AC community here is awesome.

[Eikon]

Man, you're really not used to things not going your way, aren't you?

Reminds me of the episode of South Park where Kyle is voted the ugliest kid in school and they talk about narcissism and growing up maladjusted.

do you have a mute button?

Stop feeding the troll. If you ignore him, he'll get bored and find another thread to participate in.. hopefully in a constructive manner.

[sentrastace]

Next time you see it, just stalk him and beg him to sell it when he parks. Im suprised he hasn't sold it yet actaully, IF its even the same dude. He coulda sold it to someone close by..

its parked in the SAME exact spot every time i see it...i swear it doesnt get driven.
i'm gonna knock on his door one day i swear. lol.

[sentrastace]

Stop feeding the troll. If you ignore him, he'll get bored and find another thread to participate in.. hopefully in a constructive manner.

good point. its more satisfying to respond sometimes because theres really no need for this sort of banter, and why should I let him step on me for no reason?....this type of crap really turns me off from NICO and its a shame sometimes because I love this community. 90% of people on here are AWESOME.

[Eikon]

Sorry to hear that you hate the arguing that goes on here. The only thing I can say is that it takes two people to argue. If you'd rather not argue, then just ignore the trolls and report them to a moderator or admin and let us deal with it. That's why we are here!

I agree, 90%+ of NICO is awesome!!! We work really hard to keep the rest good too!

I'll add that I also know that car forums are typically a bit sexist and women are often not treated as well as they should be. Many guys on the forums have their stereotypes about women that are completely unfair. So, I can understand that you must be very frustrated with how you are treated from time to time. I imagine you feel that you aren't always taken seriously. I'm sorry for that. So, I can understand why you would want to lash out and defend yourself.. But I would encourage you to be the adult and ignore the trolls... just report them to a moderator or admin and allow us to handle the conduct of other members.

Thanks Stace!

[Red coupe]

The STi comment wasn't directed at you.

Your sex has no bearing on belittling you or not. It might make you used to not being called out. Considering an Altima Coupe *snicker* casts your "fastest for cheapest" original goal in a pretty big shadow.

Every car you're considering would get destroyed by a semi. If Miatae were some fragile egg of a car, insurance would be loads higher on them. It's not. You're judgement is just swayed by the deeply flawed "bigger is better" SUV mentality.

Enjoy.

I commented on your STi comment to the other guy because I actually like that car and it seems like one of the most viable options for the SCCA, that I actually like.
Listing the cars asked for opinions, and I got yours, thanks-----for s*** on my thread, for no reason. a simple "i pick car x (whether it was on my list or not), because a b c d e f g" would've sufficed.

Not once did "bigger is better" cross my mind---safety DID cross my mind however, and i dont prefer small cars, simple as that. you getting butthurt because i didnt want a miata isnt really necessary. in no way did i say the car was s***, was ugly etc etc i said i dont want to get smushed on the highway. you must have some sort of affection for them, or are just really bored.

Instead of you accusing me, I'd like to say you have the "bigger is better" mentality as in "I'm gonna s*** on this chicks thread, simply because I think I'm better than her, I don't agree with her choices, therefore I am going to be an ***hole, yada yada yada...."

what is the point exactly on calling me out? How about being constructive and giving a genuine answer instead of flooding my thread with crap?
sheesh this is why i take breaks for months at a time from this forum. it is SO annoying to have to deal with this s*** for a simple, stupid, harmless question. If you dont agree, then GTFO.

He may be a d!ck, but at least from the thread you posted he is pretty right.

It is hard to take a thread that starts with "I want the fastest car for the cheapest money" and ends with "I think a new altima is a good choice" seriously... this is so a** backwards its ridiculous.

It is the internet. You may be a cute girl, but that will only save you from criticism for so long.
It sounds like you want a nice safe new car with decent performance that you can play with at the track... and that is pretty f*** far from cheapest performance, which is basically old, small dangerous. When you post up the opposite of what your looking for then have a problem with all the right suggestions for your question what do you expect?
Quit throwing the fact that your a girl in there, trying to play helpless princess is a pretty s*** way of being taken seriously.

[Dattebayo]

"Cheap" is so subjective that it's hard to make a suggestion without a real explicit money constraint, tho... SO why even care?

[dasoupdude]

oh i know, altima se-r. It's like the big version of your car except extra comfy.

safe too: has side seat & curtain airbags

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?c ... =292970651

also i skipped like some pages so i dont even know if anyone brought it up or not.

[sentrastace]

It is hard to take a thread that starts with "I want the fastest car for the cheapest money" and ends with "I think a new altima is a good choice" seriously... this is so a** backwards its ridiculous.

It is the internet. You may be a cute girl, but that will only save you from criticism for so long.
It sounds like you want a nice safe new car with decent performance that you can play with at the track... and that is pretty f**king far from cheapest performance, which is basically old, small dangerous. When you post up the opposite of what your looking for then have a problem with all the right suggestions for your question what do you expect?
Quit throwing the fact that your a girl in there, trying to play helpless princess is a pretty s*** way of being taken seriously.

I never said the new altima is a good choice, or that I was choosing it. I stated that I liked the altima coupe a lot and its on the list of cars that I am considering. all anyone had or has to say is the AC isnt fast, its too heavy, not ideal for track, etc etc.

I did not state that it had to be new, i stated new or used.

I never had a problem with right suggestions, not once did I lash out at someone for a suggestion--i posted my cars, with my impressions of cars, for input/feedback, and was proceeded to be torn into because of my choices/opinions on some of the cars.

I'm done with this thread.

[sentrastace]

oh i know, altima se-r. It's like the big version of your car except extra comfy.

safe too: has side seat & curtain airbags

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?c ... =292970651

also i skipped like some pages so i dont even know if anyone brought it up or not.

no one did actually, and another car that I absolutely love, i totally forgot. sad they stopped making them. will add it to my list.