F1's KA Flywheel from eBay.

[Florida240sx]

What's wrong with using 740cc injectors and safc? Have your base fuel pressure a bit lower. As long as car holds idle and doesn't stall your good. 550 is a maxed otu point because you cna only go -50% which puts you back at stock almot at 270. so 740cc would become 370cc which people run 370cc SR's.....

[sil80drifter]

This is WAY off topic. And you just stated nonsense. 370cc SRs are ran with ECUs tuned for those injectors. When you make 740s into 370s with the SAFC, you would HAVE to make base pressure lower (quite a bit actually) to make them idle as well as stock 270cc on a KA. You were right about that, but unless he has an FPR, using 740s with an SAFC would be kind of hard.

sil80

[eazye2000]

Of course we want to know how you're using 740cc injectors with a SAFCII...lol.

Ok, I know I left you guys hanging on this one. So here's how things are.Using a Z32 MAF with the SAFC II. Typical settings on IN and OUT are 2 IN, and 5 OUT.

Well, here's what some wont believe. I have it set as 2 IN, and 2 OUT.And yes, I have my fuel pressure set at 32 PSI at idle. So roughly 40psi at 0/0 Vaccum/Boost.

I know it sounds strange, but if you think about it, it makes sense. I can't put it into words, but I'm sure one of you can turn it into some brilliant s*** we can all understand.. LoL

Ok, here's a go at it..Maybe since the 2 out, would probably lean the beans out of it being that it's a HUGE MAF, the signal is tuned down so much, that the 740's are being turned down at the same rate.

Maybe that's why at 12 PSI of boost, I'm only taking away like 15% fuel on the SAFC to get 11.8'ish AFR's.

Sorry, I'm high as a kite on some pills right now.

[Bigvinnie]

Ok, I know I left you guys hanging on this one. So here's how things are.Using a Z32 MAF with the SAFC II. Typical settings on IN and OUT are 2 IN, and 5 OUT.

Well, here's what some wont believe. I have it set as 2 IN, and 2 OUT.And yes, I have my fuel pressure set at 32 PSI at idle. So roughly 40psi at 0/0 Vaccum/Boost.

I know it sounds strange, but if you think about it, it makes sense. I can't put it into words, but I'm sure one of you can turn it into some brilliant s*** we can all understand.. LoL

Ok, here's a go at it..Maybe since the 2 out, would probably lean the beans out of it being that it's a HUGE MAF, the signal is tuned down so much, that the 740's are being turned down at the same rate.

Maybe that's why at 12 PSI of boost, I'm only taking away like 15% fuel on the SAFC to get 11.8'ish AFR's.

Sorry, I'm high as a kite on some pills right now.

I still say your full of SH$T. In order to do a 2in/2out with A SAFC you need a rom tune that is a given. An N60 MAF uses a much larger scale than the stock MAF , (that means the ecu won't be reading the proper setting or configure to the scale without a 2in/5out, or in the case of OBD1 a 2in/6out).SAFC's don't magically create new scales for the ecu, they just trim down.

In the case of N/A applications, that would include turbo charging in your case for using larger injectors would run PIS RICH with CO, and HC's barreling out the back of your exhaust.
Modified by Bigvinnie at 10:40 AM 6/1/2007

[eazye2000]

I still say your full of SH$T. In order to do a 2in/2out with A SAFC you need a rom tune that is a given. An N60 MAF uses a much larger scale than the stock MAF , (that means the ecu won't be reading the proper setting or configure to the scale without a 2in/5out, or in the case of OBD1 a 2in/6out).SAFC's don't magically create new scales for the ecu, they just trim down.

In the case of N/A applications, that would include turbo charging in your case for using larger injectors would run PIS RICH with CO, and HC's barreling out the back of your exhaust.

I forgot that I don't know anything.. Ok, I'm in Florida right now. So when I get home, I'll shoot a video of my car idling with 2 IN and 2 OUT. Then I'll go drive around and boost about 12 psi for ya. Then you can say I'm full of $hit.... You can also look at the AFR too. Then I'll scan the flow chart that came with my injectors so you can see that as well. Hell, I'll even pop them out so you can see the injector serial numbers on them individually and match them to the chart.Stock ECU. N62 MAF. Not an N60 like you previously guessed....

Would you like to tell me anything else I'm doing or not doing? Put some more words in my mouth and call me a liar?

[johnzm]

this is ****ed up.

leave the poor kid alone, i am looking at getting a light flywheel for my ride (RB) and i really dont feel like an aluminum one since ive seen them warp so horribly bad that a replacement center section is a joke.

anyways if he is driving it, and talking about how it feels, why do u think he is lying?? that dude seriously needs a ban talking about so much crap about how fidanza is lighter and that automatically makes it better LOL

BTW,

did your machinist ever get back to u with how out of balance the flywheel was or if there was any warpage?

[Bigvinnie]

I forgot that I don't know anything.. Ok, I'm in Florida right now. So when I get home, I'll shoot a video of my car idling with 2 IN and 2 OUT. Then I'll go drive around and boost about 12 psi for ya. Then you can say I'm full of $hit.... You can also look at the AFR too. Then I'll scan the flow chart that came with my injectors so you can see that as well. Hell, I'll even pop them out so you can see the injector serial numbers on them individually and match them to the chart.Stock ECU. N62 MAF. Not an N60 like you previously guessed....

Would you like to tell me anything else I'm doing or not doing? Put some more words in my mouth and call me a liar?

Hey if you can prove it I'll keep my mouth shut. As far as the difference between an N60 and an N62 there isn't a huge difference accept flow is cut earlier on an N60 to about 350WHP, while an N62 can make a little over 400WHP. You still use the same in/outs on the SAFC.
Modified by Bigvinnie at 11:09 AM 6/4/2007

[WDRacing]

Hey if you can prove it I'll keep my mouth shut. As far as the difference between an N60 and an N62 there isn't a huge difference accept flow is cut earlier on an N60 to about 350WHP, while an N62 can make a little over 400WHP. You still use the same in/outs on the SAFC.

Modified by Bigvinnie at 11:09 AM 6/4/2007

I've been busy as of late and haven't had time to read through all of my prescribed threads. I have talked at length with eazye2000 about his setup and how he's able to run the size injectors that he is. In fact, some of which was my idea. He is doing exactly as he says he is, thats just fact.

He doesn't say that those settings allow for the use of bigger injectors, he doesn't say it gives more correction, he simply said thats what his settings are.

WD

[babowc]

btw..what year 280zx clutches can you use?

[eazye2000]

I appreciate the lookout WD. Thanks again.

BTW,

did your machinist ever get back to u with how out of balance the flywheel was or if there was any warpage?

'johnzm',My flywheel was checked out by its self, and then placed on the rotating assembly and balanced as a whole.The flywheel by its self was already zeroed out and didn't need any correction. I think if you look back at the pics, you can see where it was already drilled out for weight and balance right out of the box.

Everything about the car is awesome. Full street trim with stock wheels and tires. Stock height as well. I like living in such a high cost area and community where everyone drives mostly imported luxury cars. It's nice to see a stereotypical 'fast' car and be able to get a thumbs up from them when they see I can keep up with them.

I'm on my way home in about 3 hours, so later tonight I'll have some vids up for you guys.. ...just gotta figure out how to put them online.

[Bigvinnie]

He doesn't say that those settings allow for the use of bigger injectors, he doesn't say it gives more correction, he simply said thats what his settings are.

WD

How does a 2in and 2out with a 1in 1out work?????They don't because when you put it to the scale when the injection is matched to RPM it will be off. When he looks at the calibration of the SAFC and then cares to look at the RPM cluster they won't match at all. This is because a 2 out ecu is matched for VG30de engines and there MAPS, while a 5out or 6out matches the KA24de or sr20de or det MAPS. It simply doesn't work the scales are different....It would of been the same to match the RPM scale using a 2in and a 5out assuming that he is OBD2. In any case the percentages are set to proper corrections to the RPM scale and throttle position with the correct out to the ecu. The SAFC doesn't work with the 2 out unless the ecu has been tuned to that scale.


Modified by Bigvinnie at 5:45 PM 6/11/2007

[eazye2000]

Well.. As soon as I figure out how to post this video, you'll see. I will even shoot another vid of my ecu opened up so you can make sure it doesn't have a daughterboard in it so you can say it's 'tuned' for a Z32 MAF. And I'll make sure to make it one seamless shot this time so you cant say I'm swapping things around. Sound good?

[esahuque]

So, hows that clutch holding up?

[eazye2000]

Clutch is super! It's a different feel though...The disc was a carbon-metallic sprung type. And it seems to work better when it gets 'warmer'. If I hop in the car, and straight gun it....it will slip. But if I drive it around town, stop and go...it seems to grab harder than it does when cold.Kinda quirky, but it grows on ya. I also had to adjust the pedal a bit after it was broken in too.I would recommend it. No problems yet. It's seen a bit of track time too!

[NSRG50]

for brothers conquest... stock flywheel is 30 lbs.... just for reference of weight and flywheels

[miguelh702]

THE SCALE IS NOT BUILT TO BE SENSETIVE ENOUGH TO DETECT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2 LBS. PLUS, THERE'S OTHER COMPANIES THAT CLAIM OUTRAGEOUS HORSEPOWER GAINS AND PEOPLE STILL BUY FROM THEM. FINDANZA HAS BEEN AROUND LONGER AND ACTUALLY HAS SPONSORED A FEW DRAGSTERS SO THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO TEST THEIR PRODUCT IN EXTREME CONDITIONS. ALSO, YEAH U CAN BOLT ON A BIGGER DIAMETER DISC AND PLATE BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE CLUTCH GOES OUT AND DAMAGES THE DISC SURFACE. AT LEAST WITH FINDANZA U CAN BUY ANOTHER SURFACE PLATE AND NOT HAVE TO BUY A NEW FLYWHEEL. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT...

[miguelh702]

FUEL INJECTOR UPGRADES ARE WORTHLESS IF YOUR ECU IS RUNNING ON THE SAME AIR/FUEL CURVES. U COULD PUT 700CC INJECTORS AND WOULD NOT RUN PROPERLY. THINK OF THIS... YOUR CAR IS FULLY MODDED BUT YOUR ECU IS STILL TRYIN TO RUN ON DEALER SPECS. YOUR ECU CONTROLS THE INJECTOR PULSE AND IS GUIDED BY O2 SENSOR SIGNAL AND INFO GIVEN TO IT BY THE MAF SENSOR. IF YOU'RE RUNNING AN AFRC MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. U MIGHT WANNA GET AN AFR GAUGE TO FIND OUT YOUR ENGINE'S AIR/FUEL MIXTURE.

[jgtc_s14]

Im trying to read about this flywheel, if its worth it.and all it is about is b!tches arguing, and how does it turn into what his setup is all of a sudden.

but truthfully bigvinnie your are sounding like a jerk in this thread

[eazye2000]

U MIGHT WANNA GET AN AFR GAUGE TO FIND OUT YOUR ENGINE'S AIR/FUEL MIXTURE.

I have an AEM EUGO.

....look at the first page?

Personally, I would say the flywheel is worth it. I've not had any problems with it as of yet. I've been to the drag strip. Been drifting on the track. Put countless stop and go miles on it because I live on an Air Force base where there is a stop sign every 30 yards.... Everything looks good so far.

And if anyone else is wondering what my setup is...please keep wondering. I wont post up anymore of it. I'm pretty sure if you look at the title of the thread, it has nothing to do with my 'setup' or choices of engine management. K, Thx.

[nactive]

This fiber-carbon sprung hub disc is also a good choice for street&strip for KA24:

Here's their flywheel:[

6 button e-z lock disc:

Smooth lock sprung hub disc:

http://www.clutchnet.com/search.php?mode=search

[s13rb25det]

I am really impressed with my ebay f1 flywheel also. I have had it installed now for about 5k mtles with no problems, it even came fully balanced and ready to go.

[eazye2000]

Yep, mine was balanced as well out of the box.

But I'm afraid that my ACT Extreme Pressure Plate absolutely SQUASHED that disc I got. I'm afraid that the Extreme PP was made for Ceramic discs..

[eazye2000]

Just wanted to update everyone.

Car has 192k miles on it. Got it tuned, has run great. I did swap out the disc for a 6 puck after a little while though. I didn't want to chance anything after I swapped in a 3076R. But same PP and Flywheel.

So yeah, a 3076R at 28psi on C16 with this flywheel and clutch setup. Has worked great ever since. Lots of YouTube video's under eazye4you.

I'm just updating because I think this setup has reached the end of it's life. (or soon will). I'm going with a TO4R and 1600cc injectors. Possibly swapping in a z32 transmission, not sure yet.

Probably will end up selling this setup with plenty of life left on it. So yeah, great investment, with awesome quality for the buck.

[eazye2000]

*double post*
Modified by eazye2000 at 1:49 PM 4/10/2010

[GTR PrYdE]

Thanks for the update,

OT, what kind of 1600's are you using? Fuel?

[eazye2000]

Going to be using either Precision, Bosch, or Denso. I know it's a broad range, but I need to find some that will fit correctly with what I'm doing..

Going to tune for pump 93, and E85 as well. Mr Enthalpy himself will be tuning my car.

But as far as the clutch goes, I really liked it. And the flywheel, is a flywheel. For the less than 200 bucks I paid, it was worth the money. Spent way less and maintained the quality and performance I was looking for.I approximate there is roughly 14k miles on the setup. And was used for drag, drift, and just acting plain stupid sometimes. Held up well, and probably still will for a while.

[GTR PrYdE]

Go FIC 2150's High Imp and supposed to be easy to tune, 93 or E85

[eazye2000]

****TOTALLY OFF TOPIC HERE****

Go FIC 2150's High Imp and supposed to be easy to tune, 93 or E85

Yeah man! I saw those! I really thought about it! But I don't know how easy they are to tune with the stock ECU... Which I'm trying to keep for a while... (unless I can get a Calum RT, since he quit selling them..*grr* )

They are like 200 each or more. I have found a few Bosch units that will fit the bill for about 340 shipped.Also, found some high impedance, decent jobbies, with really good latency's for a bit more. LIke 450 or a bit more.The guys are super cool too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...AX:IT

I have some links to photobucket, check them out. I took measurements of my new rail, and a random manifold I have here in my room. They look to fit perfectly. And are high impedance with great latency's. (i know, I already said that) *drunk*http://s85.photobucket.com/alb...ctors/

Anyways, check it out and let me know what you think. Half cocked right now, hope it makes sense.

[GTR PrYdE]

Nice find! Those look pretty solid for 1600's, I thought they were sized different than normal top feed but no, I think they should fit perfect! (K-Series take different injectors)

GL and keep us updated on that, sorry for taking this OT!

[eazye2000]

Hey, no problem taking a side track. Not like anyone reads this crap anyways. lol

Got some other upgrades going on the car. I'll make another thread, and keep it updated.