EVERY NISSAN OWNER read this please

[cory2081]

I know all about respecting all cars. I had an '87 Buick GN that was highly modified, it was my first car, owned it for 11 years. I also had a '99 Mustang GT that I loved!! I sold the Stang last year, and just sold the Buick 2 weekends ago. I just wanted something sportier, decided an s14 was what I wanted. Found a super nice, fully loaded 96 with a fresh paint paint job!! I LOVE it!!! Nowhere near as fast as the GN, but, much more fun!! (and better gas mileage) The car is like new, red on black leather, 5sp, sunroof, keyless entry, CD player, N1 single, Injen intake, H&R springs with Tokico blues, and a set of Konig Imagines (17") Sweet, sweet car!! Just needs a turbo!!!!! lol Cant wait to start modifying it further.....

[RobDET]

I'm not all that quick tor write off the fact that most honda guys are the way they are becaseu EVERYBODY hates on honda. (Well not as many people hate on honda as hate on binladen or hussein but it's close)

When i used to drive my crx i constantly had to desl with people thinking i was just another honda guy. Whitch MOST honda guys aren't. We just get to the point where the standard reaction is "My Car is better" becasue we are SOOO tired of fighting the Honda VS. everybody battle. I seem to have digressed... oah well i'll just totally change the subject...

Damn that CRX was so mutch fun! I though hondas were pedestrian too untill i got that thing. In many ways it was even more of a monster than my mutch faster 240. The soudns that thing made were insane!

[krazy skwerel]

b16 into an integra? NAH! use the stock B18C1 or B18B of the LS...LS VTEC is a very nice setup...but has nothing on a B20 (CRV motor)with VTEC head. my buddy's gsr is s/c'd and is a sight to see, its gorgeous and quick too. you can check it out along with the rest of close buddies' hondas on my cardomain page in my sig.

-Dan

Yeah but I just want a really simple swap. I wouldn't be looking for massive power just a bit more from the car. When you get into the hybrid blocks and all that it just seems like too much trouble for what i want out of the car. The b16 is a simple swap that I could do in a eekend and be running on monday. This is all providing nothing goes wrong. Such as a bad block or some random other issue. :batman

[Mr1der]

think I'd just do a light build on the stock one, I don't wanna buy a car I have to fool with swapping motors unless it's old and carbuerated...

[Dano]

onlyintegras that need a swap are the old GS and RS

-Dan

[HongKongChick]

Hey HongKongChick are you really from HK? I am from HK also. And I found out last year in HK S13 nick name is Flying chicken. LOL

of course i am from HK for real! hehe.

yea i know that S13 is called "flying chicken"...so sad that S13 got that name coz of its bad handling...but i truly believe that most of the time the accidents were caused by the driver driving too fast, having too much fun knowing there are tons of cars and lots of traffic in HK, so it's their own damn fault! hehe...i once heard that this guy was doing 240kmph, i think it's about 120-140mph?? and he killed himself crashing. i mean 5hit if u r going that fast in HONG KONG (mini NYC), u are bound to have an accident and kill ur a55!

[HongKongChick]

Im going to step in on this conversation. Im a honda/acura owner (couldnt you tell). Personally i think that nissan owners in general are more down to earth and way more fun to hang out with than honda owners.

yes yes yes, u r so right :ylsuper

i mean when i go crusing, i see all these honda ricers that are just so stupid and immature, all those Fast and the Furious wannabes!!! and they thought they know everything, but they really dont!

[MasterMan]

i have alot of respect for some hondas, the ones that can preform i have no problem with, ive see CRX's beat turbo porshas... ive seen civics run 10's.. but rice gets on my nervs, i dont even mind ppl that have show cars, thats fine.. but when u have a body kit and u think u can drive like a jackass, and indanger other ppl on the road, thats what makes me max...

[nlzmo400r]

yes yes yes, u r so right :ylsuper

i mean when i go crusing, i see all these honda ricers that are just so stupid and immature, all those Fast and the Furious wannabes!!! and they thought they know everything, but they really dont!

yes, but as ROBDET said, most honda guys arent the 'typical honda guy' that some people sadly think they are, one thing i always lived by: 'show them respect until they show you they dont deserve it', and sure ive seen cars that werent my style, but u know what, as long as they're not hurting anyone, its all an opinion, their cars, and their money

[CA18_Dreams]

I love to see when all kinds of car groups get together... i just wish that they would show respect... nlzmo400r your a great guy... you see that most everyone who is a car guy or girl... is a car lover at heart... just cause we drive a differnt brand of car is no reason for people to start hating... and those who do, will eventuly get what they asked for... a beating... hopfuly on the track... the haters just need to relize that the only reason they are talking crap about your car is cause they are not confident about their car, or your car just sucks... get over it... probly the only reason sombodys car is going to be better is cause they have more money to put into it... plain and simple... make freinds, don't hate... respect others disesions...

[skydragoness]

gsr778: you have a gorgeous teg, if ever i saw one.

i don't have anything against *ANY* car-enthusiast, and by enthusiast, i mean someone who doesn't go with the crowd (rice), knows how to drive, and knows what the hell they're doing or have the desire to learn instead of being a 'know-it-all' (biggest key element here)

as far as hondas go, there's nothing wrong with a high-revvin', lightweight vehicle. they're common, but there's always the uncommon examples that catch my eye. the ones that are functional beasts and are subtle, but that's my criteria for every car just about:D

HKC, i told you about my ex being from HK before, and he did tell me about the 'flying chicken' tag for s13's. kind of amusing.

[nlzmo400r]

I love to see when all kinds of car groups get together... i just wish that they would show respect... nlzmo400r your a great guy... you see that most everyone who is a car guy or girl... is a car lover at heart... just cause we drive a differnt brand of car is no reason for people to start hating... and those who do, will eventuly get what they asked for... a beating... hopfuly on the track... the haters just need to relize that the only reason they are talking crap about your car is cause they are not confident about their car, or your car just sucks... get over it... probly the only reason sombodys car is going to be better is cause they have more money to put into it... plain and simple... make freinds, don't hate... respect others disesions...

thanks for hte compliments bro, EVERYONE LISTEN TO THIS GUY FROM NOW ON :ylsuper

[jdmfreak]

I totaly agree with ca18. Why cant we all get along. Today this kid was talking to a teacher in study hall. The teacher told him that he has a 5 speed civic si. About a minute later, the teacher walks away and he says to another teacher sitting next to him, "I dont mess with that Jap crap American is the way to go. Pure Muscle baby" Then I said that in ten years his Jap crap would would be still running with minor problems while you will be wasting countless amounts of money trying to keep your American muscle from falling apart. Dont get me wrong. I pay respect where respect is due. I know that Ill be getting my *** handed to me by the V8s if I raced them. I hate the whole domestic vs. import bull****. They are all great cars. It just depends on what you're looking for in a car. When people make stupid comments like that. I try to ignore it but sometimes it just doesnt work.

[nlzmo400r]

most older guys taht grew up with american v8s wont let them die, and i can see why, thats what they were used to doing when they were 18, 19 or whatever. And its all a matter of opinion, i agree that most of the american cars arent made half as well as your average nissan/toyota/honda etc. and even STILL for the money, the american v8 (ls1 or lt1, whatever u want really) is the cheapest routte for quick 1/4 times, but now so much interest has taken to drifting, autocross, time attack and such, taht american cars are falling behind, and have been for a while, basically , its a new generation, thats all there is to it, but history repeats itself, so u never know

[jdmfreak]

The thing is that this kid doesnt even have a liscence or even a permit yet.

[Mr1der]

man, vette's kill at auto x cross though, probably a bit much grip for and pricey just to drift though, the american V8 is dying because no one has the balls to step up and make one, though GM is slowly but surely starting to show some, anyone seen the new Goat? granted it's actually a rebadged australian car, but I think GM has some nerve to actually bring it over, as well as make the Cadillac CTS-V. I still like the smaller stuff though, so much easier to whip and fling them about:)

I wish they'd bring back the F bodies, not that I can afford one...

[spec-v5150]

I do open my mouth when someone says something dumb. I look at it like family fighting. We are both imports and get no love from domestics. I think it is stupid because I like ALL imports. And I do throw that comment about gettign a HOnda and waxing ther floor with some of these fools on here. I do feel that the Nissan community is a little stuck up. Usually TQ comes to mind. I am generalizing, but most everywhere I go it is Honda sucks this...Hondas aint **** that. That like Nissan are superior in every facet. Just my .02 cents. IF you are gonna hate...hate on the mustangs and what not. I only brand loyalty on certain things like daily dirver cars, stereo equipment and clothes. I wont buy a domestic daily driver, I wont buy aiwa electronic equipment and I wont buy off brand clothes or shoes.

[krazy skwerel]

onlyintegras that need a swap are the old GS and RS

-Dan

But thats what I'm talking about. Something like a 91 gs. Thats what I want. I just prefer that body style to the newer ones, and I know I won't find a 93 gs-r. So I would do the simple swap and have a fun little car. :batman

[bazan]

My first car was an '89 Accord Lxi. 5spd, 4dr, red with tons of rust on the rear. The only thing i didn't like about that car was the constant understeer. When I have my choice i'll take oversteer any day of the week. But that's me:)

Honda's have become a symbol to society of the people who buy a cheap car, mod the hell out of it, then try to act cool about their car. It is neither the honda that i hate, nor in most cases is it the driver. When I say i hate honda's i refer to the car insofar as does it look good and does it perform. When i say i hate ricers i refer to the people who modify the cars to look like crap and not perform. Although I generalize it is more than honda's i look at. I've seen some very bad examples of 240's, Sentra's, and more than a few Infiniti's. I severely dislike them too. It is a generalization that those are often the people who cannot hold a civilized conversation without bragging about their car.

I have nothing to brag about, i have no money and i just got my car back from the body shop to realize that my T/C rods are shot. Some might call me a ricer, because my car looks good, stock, but good, yet cannot perform. I have a cheap exhaust because the one on there when i bought the car broke. To the untrained eye, even i would look like a ricer. The difference is that i do not have an inferiority complex that i must satisfy by telling everyone why car is better than theirs.

Nice job nizmo, getting people to realize this.

[Aztek72]

If we all acted alike, thought alike and drove the same cars, someone please tickle my rectum with a 12 gauge and blow my head away.

Diversity is key to broadening ones' horizons. A diverse appreciation of vehicles of all makes and models makes a person a more knowledgeable and more-rounded car "enthusiast." I can appreciate an SR 240sx as much as I appreciate a Ruf Turbo, Shelby Cobra, Mazda 323 GTX, Sentra SE-R or Model T ford. A willingness to appreciate each vehicle for its intended purpose and in its intended idiom allows for a more wholesome approach and makes one a true automobile enthusiast.

My strongest belief, and this applies to all aspects of life, is that the moment one thinks himself superior to another is the moment he becomes a lesser man. I drive a Q45, used to have a Supra and now have an EVO 8 as a daily driver but when I pull up to a man driving a Ford Focus, it doesn't give me any elitist license to think that my car is any better than his, at least not for its intended purpose and pricepoint. Cars are like people, they all have their own unique niceties and weaknesses and as such, draw different followings. We like our cars because they're projections of our own needs and wants in transportation. Some people prefer indulging in a well-engineered Teutonism and so they buy a Bimmer. Others care less about aesthetics and comfortability and enjoy driving a car that's meant for flogging and for a good price so they buy SE-R's, 240sx's and what not.

Basically, my appreciation extends from the car to the owner. Cars are extensions of our own personalities and I welcome anyone, even teenagers driving what others perceive to be gawdy ricer-mobiles decorated with massive aluminum wings, garish wheels, etc. because of the mere fact that thats the owners way of expressing himself and feeling special.

As for discriminating when it comes to fashion- I've been a firm believer in the saying "clothes cover the man, his personality dresses him." Some of the most fashionable people I know wear plain jane white t's and jeans. Superiority in brand name clothing is one of the greatest fallacies and the driving force behind a trendy consumerist society. The DKNY's, Sean John's, Polo's, St. Laurent's, Banana Republic's of the world are laughing their ways to the bank because like the rest of all clothing lines, they're shirts, shoes and other accessories costs mere cents to produce.

[skydragoness]

aztek72, i love you

i think this thread ends with your post. excellent reply!!!

[Aztek72]

Great minds think alike.

BTW, you single? :wink wink: :icesangel

[Mr1der]

tickle you rectum with a 12 ga?

dude that's messed up....I don't think I'd ever think of something that disturbing...

[Sil40_Mayhem]

If we all acted alike, thought alike and drove the same cars, someone please tickle my rectum with a 12 gauge and blow my head away.

:spit man, i so didn't expect to read something like that when i woke up this morning! :pface anyway, i completely agree with the statement that u made. quite articulate, actually. anyhow, i'd like to add that while i try to maintain an open mind about different cars/owners (and their intended purposes) and whatnot, i still have a bit of a problem w/the 'rice' people who front. i'm not talking about folks who actually improve the performance of their vehicles, modify the look (with the intent to do just that), or leave it stock and enjoy it as is. i find it hard to have acceptance for someone who believes that their car is better/is faster/handles better/etc because they put neon underneath it, dump it to the ground/cut the springs, or have a single wiper blade (though i know it's not my place to judge). the same folk who wanna mug on u as ur riding by because they have to feel superior in their 'modded' ride. if they would just say "that's the way i like my car", i'd be fine with it. but when it gets to "my car is better because X Y Z" that it irks me.

in the end, a car is a car. naturally, there are some that i prefer to others, but i don't agree with the whole "X car company is better than Y". or even a model-for-model comparison. i think that such comparisons in actuality would be difficult, since much of the criteria would be based on personal opinion. that said, to me, what makes something better than the other is simply which one i like better.

[Mr1der]

so who wants a Duesenberg(?) ?

[jdmfreak]

Well a lot of these kids in my school are just ****in ignorant. I try to tell them about the real hp gains and they tell me Im lying. Today this kid is telling me that his his red 2 door 90-93 accord with what he thinks is a catback exhaust, intake, and a wing runs 15's. I try to ignore him, but his bragging just got on my nerves. So I told him "I dont know what the previous owner told you but your car was recorded on tape doing a 17.6 1/4 mi and the lime green 4 door integra slammed with black rims he raced beat it with a 16.9." Then he tried to change the subject by saying that he just put my air/fuel gauge in yesterday and I got a PS2 with LCD screen. So what? Then he said that he'll beat my maxima. I just walked away after that. I wanna race him to so he could see the light but I doubt I will do it. Also, 1 of my friends made up a story that he had a turbo RSX Type S running 12 psi. Then the same kid I talked to said that his accord would smoke it. Stuff like that just makes you look like a moron. I dont respect people like that. Truthfully I want a civic but I want an s14 first. I respect Hondas and any other cars for what they were made to do. What I call better is just my opinion and what other people like is their opinion. That is what it should be.

[nlzmo400r]

im glad so many people agree with me, i didnt know there were this many people like you guys, i thin kthe problem is the rivers and morons out there speak louder than the truthful guys

[Repo Man]

As far as NFL, the eagles are going to whup the Bucs tonight so im content

I'm going to have J-Spec help me with my picks this year...



Just playin' bro! :icesangel

[nlzmo400r]

actually, i figured at Home, the eagle wouldve alteast made it a close game with tampa, but the defense was just too much, hell both d's were great, but tampas ofense had the right plays a couple of times and thats all it took

[Bubba1]

I think the Iggle players were concentrating more watching on the Iggle cheerleaders in their new skimpier outfits than the Bucs