Ebay_Silvia K ?? Legally registered?

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

Hey. Did you guys see the White 93 K on ebay yet. I seen it has license plates and appears to be registered. The description of the car says nothing about not being street legal? Anyone in cali. seen this car or know the person. I tried messaging him about how he got it registered but no response.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... egory=6396

Post by **gibbo80** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

you can get them here legally by using places like motorex or by registering them as a kit car or something like that

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

where are you from in iowa? I'm from iowa too. Motorex doesn't legalize silvia's . i've called them. And if they did it would be hella expensive. I wonder if I could register mine as a kit car?

Post by **Megaseth** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

that silvia is nice, and clean too. you might try the kitcar thing, but im not sure it will work.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

kit car wont work. and that car is and will never be legal here as of yet....cuz of the SR

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

then why are all of you ppl putting sr's in your 240sx's. if they are so illegal.. i'll tell them i have a ka24e in it. whoola.........

Post by **BadMojo** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

IowaSilvia_S13 wrote:then why are all of you ppl putting sr's in your 240sx's. if they are so illegal.. i'll tell them i have a ka24e in it. whoola.........

For uh....track use only. Yeah, that's it.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

IowaSilvia_S13 wrote:then why are all of you ppl putting sr's in your 240sx's. if they are so illegal.. i'll tell them i have a ka24e in it. whoola.........

yeah good one. No paperwork on that ebay Silvia, if you read the fine print all you get is a bill of sale. Besides the fact that it's a dead giveaway the car was illegally imported...

also when you say you have like a KA in there, and someone is actually educated on what an SR looks like. WHOOLA LOOK AN SR IN THE ILLEGAL RHD CAR! busted. All any competent police officer/emissions person has to do is pick up a copy of Import Tuner and look as what an SR looks like, they will know it's illegal. Iowa your knowledge about importing/emissions/THE LAWS still cease to amaze me.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

It's all a big loophole. If you don't have emissions you are safe. If you have emissions, your SR better be running pristine to pass. Most places [are usually stupid] won't care about visual if the engine passes normally.

Post by **WingsNThangs** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

IowaSilvia_S13 wrote:then why are all of you ppl putting sr's in your 240sx's. if they are so illegal.. i'll tell them i have a ka24e in it. whoola.........

Nissan enthusiasts are just rebellious hooligans like that.

The government isnt stupid when it comes to knowing what is a turbo engine and what is a N/A KA24E. At least the CA DOT isnt.

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

swift drift. how was your 180sx imported? illegally? my car wasn't imported illegally. It was imported just like the sr in your car was. As parts only. Rolling chassis, without the motor installed. Yeah. i guess us iowa boys are a little bit in the sticks about this emissions stuff huh. Guess we have to go by what swift drift says and the fed. government. cuz they say so. thats why. But if you say that the sr is illegal in the states then that takes care of 50% of us on this board then.

I don't have to worry about emissions here in iowa. we don't have visual checks for cats, motors, vins, etc here. If we did every farmer here would be out of business cuz he couldn't put his crops in the ground nor take them to town.

So what i'm saying is who gives a **** if i have a sr in my car. let allone a legally imported vehicle. If bob down the street can drive a damn chevy with staight pipes and gets 5 miles to the gallon, let me register my damn car as a kit car. Hey. what do all these hot rodders do that customize there cars.. they put a chevy front end on a ford rear end. Do a whole lot of customizing and then what. What do they register it as? ford chevy, a forchy... i don't know...i should be able to register it as a kit car. i purchased parts and put the car together.

Post by **IowaSilvia_S13** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

sorry swiftdrift.. but i'm just pissed i have a car here and can't drive it cuz the fed gov. says so. I guess i'll have to buy me a chitty 240 and swap every damn part from my silv. to the 240. sounds like a *****. I'll still get pulled over and probably accused for driving an illegal car. but at least im legal huh......

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

Iowa I totally understand your situation, but I feel you are taking risks you shouldn't be. At least not until you fully understand what might happen. Seriously if you swapped everything over to a LHD chassis (and I mean everything, nuts bolts, complete wiring..) it won't be that hard and in the end you'll have an 80% JDM/20% US car. It will be more unique and rare than any silvia conversion, and totally legal

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

i purchased parts and put the car together.

yeah that's the basis for registering a kit car. But you need to prove with receipts of every part. Engine, chassis, every suspension part, etc., etc. So you will be needing like 20 receipts which you don't have. That's why every part of the legalization process SUCKS ***. You have to literally take/show your car, or proof that the car is legal and you can't do that. So whoever you take it too will know the car/engine is illegal and you're busted.

I'm glad you told me how the car was imported (in parts). Yes that means it is legally "imported" however when you attempt to register it legally you have to again prove the safety standards, engine, etc which you also can't, because the SR is illegal.

This is how it is basically working. You are trying to register a car that appeared in the US out of "thin air." Even though you don't have emissions or anything the Iowa DMV/DOL is going to want to know where this car came from. As a kit car you need to prove everything with receipts and have it road tested. As an import you need to prove with customs paperwork where the car came from. Either situation you can't. There are only 2 legal options for you: Keep it as an off-road/race only vehicle or buy the cheapest, straightest 240 coupe you can and swap everything over. When I say off-road I LITERALLY mean it. Never drive the car on the streets. The reason swapping everything over to a LHD chassis would be legal is because in the end the car would end up being the same as any US 240 conversion registered in an area without emissions. Since 99.99999999999% of all US cars are LHD, you being in a LHD chassis would not suprise anyone. You being in a RHD chassis, people are going to ask questions.

Until someone becomes and RI, imports a couple 180's and silvia's, crash tests them, EPA test the SR just like Motorex did, the SR AND RHD S13/S14/S15 chassis will never be legal here.

Post by **JESTER** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

You can import them just like you can import the Skylines. It just cost out the butt.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

Another naive NICO member strikes again!

The only place that can legally import AND legalize a Skyline is Motorex. The only place that can legally import a Silvia/180SX is ANY Registered Importer. The only place that can legalize a Silvia/180SX is NOBODY. Have a nice day.

Post by **yeswepromise** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

RB Motoring also imports skylines and sells them legally too.kbye

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

Yeah they are a run-off of Motorex by a former employee. Which is why they have the hookup with the legalization information that Motorex owns the rights too and won't usually share.

Post by **JESTER** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:Another naive NICO member strikes again!

The only place that can legally import AND legalize a Skyline is Motorex. The only place that can legally import a Silvia/180SX is ANY Registered Importer. The only place that can legalize a Silvia/180SX is NOBODY. Have a nice day.

Okay, i may be incorrect. So correct me. But I am far from naive! I didnt appreciate the comment.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

From "Webster Online," naive: deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment.

In the instance where I called you naive I was right to do so. You were misinformed and incorrect. You were being naive.

Post by **BuudWeizErr** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

I love threads like this. Keeping misinformation in check. Thank you SWIFT.

Post by **JESTER** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

I hardly see being mistaken on one instance concerning one subject to be naive.

I dont see being misinformed and incorrect as being the same as having a deficient in informed judgement. I think Webster was going more for deficient in informed judgement in a whole, not just in a particular, and specific instance.

I am by no means naive. Nor did I care for the way you called me naive. "Another naive NICO member strikes again!" You could try a little tact.

Post by **JESTER** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

BuudWeizErr wrote:I love threads like this. Keeping misinformation in check. Thank you SWIFT.

I have no problem with being corrected, but in the manner in which it was done. Some people are in capable of not being rude.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

JESTER wrote:I have no problem with being corrected, but in the manner in which it was done. Some people are in capable of not being rude.

There's probably a word for me in Webster's. Why don't you look it up JESTER? Yeah Buud I'm just totally loving this forum lately :rolleyes Too much crap though you should help me we would have fun cleaning up

Post by **JESTER** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:There's probably a word for me in Webster's. Why don't you look it up JESTER?

This getting old real fast. I will leave you two gentlemen to your little clean up mission.

Post by **blue_hauder** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

Just do what car theives do and buy a wrecked one and switch the vin numbers. Better yet buy one that is currently registered and not running and switch the vin numbers and plates. There you go.

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

blue_hauder wrote:Just do what car theives do and buy a wrecked one and switch the vin numbers. Better yet buy one that is currently registered and not running and switch the vin numbers and plates. There you go.

Another idiot shows his true colors! "Just do what car THIEVES (CRIMINALS) do"...yeah let's be a car thief! Tamper with VIN's and be illegal and go to jail over a fricken car! I have explained this many times as why this is not a good idea. Maybe if you would spend the 5 minutes to read every post in this thread instead of just adding your two cents without reading anything but the first post, I wouldn't have to own you. Fokker.

Post by **JESTER** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

Swift, ease up. I don't think he was being serious. You are starting to get like K-car.

Post by **SmithSR** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

Swift, go easy man, we've talked before and you certainly know your stuff about import/legalize. Not every member is willing to do the research you did, and therefore will not know the truth. Some might even think it's acceptable to swap vins. Clearly criminal....

I also remember a lil story you told me about topping out in 4th gear on a backroad in a certain black 180sx

Take it easy on these guys, if they aren't as informed as you, then this is the perfect opportunity to educate them. It's harder to make people listen when you're calling them names though.

Post by **[Zero-S]** » Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:37 pm

Whoa...these boards heat up around 4 in the morning

Ebay_Silvia K ?? Legally registered?

Ebay_Silvia K ?? Legally registered?

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