Ebay_Silvia K ?? Legally registered?

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Smith I totally agree. However it gets highly irritating when people don't even spend the time to read a thread, just add a post count at the end.


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[ZERO-S] wrote:Whoa...these boards heat up around 4 in the morning


We try to get this out of our system early. I think it is due to us not sleeping at night like real people. But hey, night shift rules.

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Damn right Night shift rules. Well sometimes. :batman

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If i moved to Japan, could i import and american car? would they call me an import guy cause i drove a foriegn car?

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Megaseth wrote:If i moved to Japan, could i import and american car? would they call me an import guy cause i drove a foriegn car?


I belive they would...

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Megaseth wrote:If i moved to Japan, could i import and american car? would they call me an import guy cause i drove a foriegn car?


No the Japanese car/import laws are very open-minded. They can pretty much import any car they want from anywhere and register it with no problems.

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Whoa *******, I read the whole thing, I realize what the **** your talking about. I wasn't encouraging anyone to steal a car. And from what I understand if you had a wrecked car and you took parts from one and made the other one complete you could register it as a rebuild. Jesus Christ man, lighten up

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I won't lighten up because you are passing along false information. And you still are in this latest post. No you can't just register the jdm car as a "rebuild" and maybe if you read up on VIN numbers you will understand why.

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While swithcing VIN number is illegal and dangerous, it might be the only way you can register a Silvia K. If you don't live in Cali, your chance of getting caught is lower, but it's still a risk.

You can just buy a 240SX and then do a Silvia front-end conversion. It's legal, it doesn't involve switching the VIN, but you car just won't be RHD and true JDM. Much safer and easier than try to register the Silvia.

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THis is gibbo80, i live in cedar falls iowa, and so does altiman the sn im using. You need to just do what you first thought of and buy a junk 240 throw the registration in your silvia and swap visible vins. No one iowa will check. Nobody here has cats and half the cars smoke screen the intersections when going through. Just do that and you wont get caught. Just say you did it for fun and moved the steering wheel. NO one around here will know especially in algona area where you live. As long as you have registartion saying it is a 240 and insurance on the junk 240 the cop wont do anything. They will be like there is one of those weird rice burners, back in the day they had real cars. Just do that

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where are you from gibbo80 and altiman94. Let me know and maybe we could do this vin swap thing and colaberate. :) . I know what you mean about cops not doing anything here. I was pulled over once and the trooper was like damn, this is really something you don't see every day. He wanted to see the engine etc. and had no clue it was turbo charged or anything. Let me know of some s13 coupes for sale in iowa or surrounding area. My father in law has a trailor and can go pick one up sometime.

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all of you relax.No one care about the legality of the silvia on ebay.No one should except the owner and new buyer.

So chill.The only way to register a car as a kit car is to have more than 75% of the vehicle be bought in parts, and then assembled.And yes, they will ask for every reciept on the vehicle, ansd the DMV in your state will issue you a KIT VIN.

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don't worry arries.. i'm relaxed. I don't have a problem here. I won't be registering it as a kit car since i don't have 75% receipts, but it will be registered as a 240. :). I just have to get my hands on a cheap coupe around here.. hahahhahha

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if you know someone in the DMV or something... you *could* get it reg as a kit car...

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Black240 wrote:if you know someone in the DMV or something... you *could* get it reg as a kit car...


yep....this world is all about knowing people.

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Old threads never die, neither do people who love to break the law...So all of you go ahead and start buying up illegally imported cars an do vin swaps on them. Then when you start flaunting your car I will call the cops, customs, DOT on your *** and laugh while you're in jail saying "I told you so!"

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i can't wait to start flaunting my car. i'll drive it to work and back and everywhere i can. your just sore because it sucks where you live and cops actually are hardasses about this vin stuff. they just give us speeding tickets here and tell us to slow down. hell, even if you don't have registration current on your car or ins. they just tell u to do something about it. :p

I'm so happy that you are going to call the po po's on me. and customs.. i think i'll do the same to you too. since you have a 180sx in your garage and a couple sr's to boot i bet.. they're illegal too.. u live in renton, wa right.. ok.........what goes around comes around bud. so if you don't like this tread then please don't respond negatively. i'm so glad that nico has ppl like you. U must work for the government or something. I hate the government.. they're all crooks anyways, so might as well give em some of my own medicine. blah blah

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Yeah funny. Like I've said multiple times, if you can actually read, is that I've taken the necessary LEGAL steps to register my car as off-road/race only. This means I have filled out and received paperwork saying so smarty boy. Yeah that's right my car is LEGAL to stay here in the country indefinitely. Your's is NOT. If you would actually do research and read you would find you could do the same, especially since you claimed your car was "imported legally" (cough cough).

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heheh their medicine is alot more sour than you could dream of dishing =)

not to get into this argument but it sounds like you havent had a hard time with the law before.

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why wouldn't it be imported legally.. it went thru customs as parts only and as a rolling chassis. cough cough. whatever. then how do i go about making it race or off-road only vehicle. then what do i do with it. we don't have any races here or anything. i would have to drive it there..hmm

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my motorcycle has LEGAL Off Road Vehicle registration, maybe I could switch the vins and have a LEGAL off road 240sx.

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Swift, I'll ask you again to play nice or not play at all.:D

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thanks smith sr

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IowaSilvia_S13 wrote:why wouldn't it be imported legally.. it went thru customs as parts only and as a rolling chassis. cough cough. whatever. then how do i go about making it race or off-road only vehicle. then what do i do with it. we don't have any races here or anything. i would have to drive it there..hmm


Omfg, now you're on his side Smith? Supporting his illegal acts? That's awesome...

Iowa, ok if your car was imported legally as parts only, then that's all it's LEGAL for. Parts and a rolling chassis. The minute you put it back together and drive it = illegal.

How do you go about making it off-road legal only? I won't tell you. You made the mistake of buying the car without doing any research prior, you can figure it out big boy.

You don't have any races there? Oh that sucks. And no you can't legally drive it to a race anyways, since it's only an off-road vehicle only, you would have to trailer it around. Again you got yourself into the situation of buying a car you knew nothing about legally. Like I've stated before (in a helpful manner) you have 2 options. Do what I've done (but you can figure it out), or swap all the parts over to a LEGAL US LHD chassis and register it.

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also, if you're going the illegal route, don't tell us on a public forum, and don't tell everyone you have an illegal car. this thread should have been closed long ago, read swift's many many posts on the subject, he knows what he is talking about.

and iowa, i assume you do drive this car frequently, as you upgraded the turbo, etc. so, if you do go the illegal route maybe you could get a crooked shop to make some fake invoices and receipts for all the individual parts and then register it as a kit car. note: this is definately illegal, you could lose your car, be fined and sent to jail along with the crooked shop owner. but, don't worry, you'll have the satisfaction of cheating the government. just move to japan if you love the car so damn much.

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we want to come see the silvia, we are in the waterloo/cedar falls area. Look around there have been 4 junk 240 coupes around here i the last 2 years. They are around just pay attention. If you are around sometime tell us a time when we can come see it. Swap the vins and do some big burnouts.

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volcano suit on

is the 75% of the parts thing true? If so how is that 75% defined? If it is by cost then you could get away with it and still be basically legal... In my swap more than 75% of the cost is from separate parts that i do have reciepts for.

also this is america so you have the right to do what you want... you also of course have the right to go to jail for it.

by the way this is purely for conversations sake. If it pisses anyone off then just pretend it's not here...

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Mods, I make a vote to close this thread. It isn't helping anyone anymore. Just pissing everyone off.

Please shut this one down.

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SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:Omfg, now you're on his side Smith? Supporting his illegal acts? That's awesome...


Swift, if I'm on anybody's side it's yours. How many threads have we had to fight the BS and misinformation on together?? I have no problem with you calling his actions illegal, because no matter how IowaSilvia sugar-coats the situation, it is still not by the letter of the law. All I'm saying is that it will be twice as difficult to make people understand your point of view if you speak to them in a condescending manner. Swift, I know you're a good guy with good intentions, and a GREAT deal of knowledge.

"It's all in the delivery."You gain people's respect NOT by rubbing your knowledge in their face, but instead by presenting facts and allow them to make their own judgement.

IowaSilvia, no need to thank me. I am not supporting your efforts to drive an illegal car on the street. I want these threads to be helpful and to be open to other members. God help you if you DO crash, or if you DO get busted, however unlikely you say that might be. Drive safely. I can only imagine how it feels to drive around town in a car that, to you might hold a high value, but is completely uninsured. Now that IS a scary thought.

Both of you guys own imported RHD Nissans!!! You two should be sharing information, not going back and forth griping about who's right and who's wrong. Swift, if IowaSilvia wants to take the risk, then he will have to deal with whatever consequences come his way. Let HIM take that risk. I know you are doing the right thing with your car, and it bothers you to see others break the rules. When all is said & done, the only thing we can do is advise people about the legal facts. Keep up the good work with the facts, Swift. Just take it easy if people disagree with you.

If ANY of you want to disagree with me, but feel the need to flame/bash/insult me, please do so via email. My addy is in my profile.

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Well put. I personally feel at ease doing stuff the legal way with proper research. IowaSilvia good luck in your venture. We (any many others) obviously do not agree in many aspects of life, ethics, morals, and values. As a moderator SmithSR is right, people will disagree with me. It is my fault for attacking people in a discussions forum where freedom of speech is granted. I apologize to anyone I offended in this thread. It's your life not mine, I will stop telling people what to do and instead just keep it to information/opinions otherwise. Take care.


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