just wanna share that one of my good friends is being deployed this morning. we did not know about till yesterday which means we did not really say our goodbyes at all since he had to pack up and go so soon. it was really sad. though he left already, but i still feel like he is only on vacation and will be back soon, it has not hit me yet i guess. and he might be wherever he will go for 2 years! 2 YEARS! it's way too long!
i just wanna vent, it's just so upsetting! and i want to thank all the soldiers that are fighting for our safety and freedom. though personally, i dont agree with war, but they have to fulfil their duty and all i can do is pray for their safety.
Deployment!
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oh have they passed that drafting bill yet? i mean it's gonna suck big time when it passed....
thanks, i love my hometown and it's really beautiful no matter in pictures or in person... i did not take those pics of course, but i can tell you that if you were there right now at night, the scene will be the same...it's not CG.
thanks, i love my hometown and it's really beautiful no matter in pictures or in person... i did not take those pics of course, but i can tell you that if you were there right now at night, the scene will be the same...it's not CG.
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my best freind leaves for korea tomorrow , i leave next month if i get stop lossed , im schedualed to get out of the airforce on the 26th of april , but since theres a war i wont be able to get out , so to korea i go for 179 days ...the good side tho is ill be able to make and save some serious money for my next G20 , gotta love hazardous /foreign duty pay
HongKongChick wrote:oh have they passed that drafting bill yet? i mean it's gonna suck big time when it passed....
thanks, i love my hometown and it's really beautiful no matter in pictures or in person... i did not take those pics of course, but i can tell you that if you were there right now at night, the scene will be the same...it's not CG.
No, no drafting bill YET. I hope not, but like someone mentioned on this board I'm sure our 150K+ servicemen and women around the world can take care of things.
But HK will be one of the places I will be visiting some day! Always dreamed about visiting HK and Shanghai.
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I'm looking at a picture of myself and a bunch of my buddies that are in Kuwait right now. I missed going with them by a few months. Deployments are difficult for everyone, especially the soldier going to war. I may be going myself if things really heat up.
Support from the people back home is very important to a deployed soldier. You cannot even imagine unless you've been in that type of situation.
I have a couple of friends that will be moving to Germany very soon and will probably be sent to Kuwait thereafter. I won't see them for three years. It sucks, but that's the job.
Support from the people back home is very important to a deployed soldier. You cannot even imagine unless you've been in that type of situation.
I have a couple of friends that will be moving to Germany very soon and will probably be sent to Kuwait thereafter. I won't see them for three years. It sucks, but that's the job.
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its good to hear many of us are supporting our brave soldiers whether or not we hate wars or the president, it's very important for us to remember that these people are citizens that risk their lives for us to have a better life, so no matter how much i dont like this war idea, i support them and pray for their safety every day!
i do hope the drafting bill will never be passed, though some countries practice drafting.....
i do agree that sometimes American government does like to mind not only their business, but also other people's business and then when there is something horrible that happened in this country, they blame no body but others! but that's just my opinion!
i do hope the drafting bill will never be passed, though some countries practice drafting.....
i do agree that sometimes American government does like to mind not only their business, but also other people's business and then when there is something horrible that happened in this country, they blame no body but others! but that's just my opinion!
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HongKongChick wrote:i do agree that sometimes American government does like to mind not only their business, but also other people's business and then when there is something horrible that happened in this country, they blame no body but others! but that's just my opinion!
It's a good thing we minded France's business in WWII. Otherwise they'd be speaking German! Heh.
I agree with your message of support, but what are you referring to when you say "something horrible that happened in this country"?
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HORRIBLE THINGS MEANING SEPT. 11! AND WARS, WHICH HAPPENS IN OTHER COUNTRIES ALMOST EVERYDAY...repo man wrote:It's a good thing we minded France's business in WWII. Otherwise they'd be speaking German! Heh.
I agree with your message of support, but what are you referring to when you say "something horrible that happened in this country"?
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10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! !
Iraq ADMITTED they had PRODUCED at LEAST that quantity of something as vile as this toxin - when will it end up in another wackos’ hands ? And delivered here ? Are Anti-war proselytizers DEMANDING Iraq admit its own words, AGAIN, and show where the current stock of Tens of THOUSANDS OF LITERS of weapons are ?
WHY NOT ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! !
WHY NOT ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! !
WHY NOT ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! ! First - I have served and anyone who has, can regard the loss of life as atrocious - newly made friends, comrades, fellow men and women serving - any of "ours" vs "them in the midst of a firefight - it SUCKS and no sane person should look forward to war -
IMHO, while we don’t ask for war - it HAS been brought to our shores - by the very likes of the Iraqi madman and similar fanatics - and are we to sit here and turn the other cheek ?
Wether you voted for W or not, he MUST act like an adult and adjudicate in the best interest of our country - Advocate for disarmament from Iraq - don’t think you are infantile enough to tie one hand behind the US’s back - not 12 more years of funfilled inspections - Do you recall a prior “cowboy” standing up as a parental figure and facing down Communism, repression and simpering sycophants yammering for appeasement ? I recall all too vividly the idealism of “staying out of it”in Europe yet, we ALREADY KNOW of Saddams atrocities and lies - let’s placate him like Hitler - THAT is what rabid anti-American protests are proponents of.
If called - would YOU join our MEN and WOMEN who PROTECT ideals ? If not, please move to Iraq as a human shield - (I hear they can’t wait to get out as Saddam is putting them in front of Military bases, NOT the civilian spots they bleated they wanted to go protect) - Hmmmmm, reality, WHAT A CONCEPT !
Yo Teddy-poo, go take a cold bath back at Chappaquidic - you have NO moral authority, even adultering Jessie boy has more cajones then you by admitting his greenmail and lies -
Iraq ADMITTED they had PRODUCED at LEAST that quantity of something as vile as this toxin - when will it end up in another wackos’ hands ? And delivered here ? Are Anti-war proselytizers DEMANDING Iraq admit its own words, AGAIN, and show where the current stock of Tens of THOUSANDS OF LITERS of weapons are ?
WHY NOT ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! !
WHY NOT ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! !
WHY NOT ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! ! First - I have served and anyone who has, can regard the loss of life as atrocious - newly made friends, comrades, fellow men and women serving - any of "ours" vs "them in the midst of a firefight - it SUCKS and no sane person should look forward to war -
IMHO, while we don’t ask for war - it HAS been brought to our shores - by the very likes of the Iraqi madman and similar fanatics - and are we to sit here and turn the other cheek ?
Wether you voted for W or not, he MUST act like an adult and adjudicate in the best interest of our country - Advocate for disarmament from Iraq - don’t think you are infantile enough to tie one hand behind the US’s back - not 12 more years of funfilled inspections - Do you recall a prior “cowboy” standing up as a parental figure and facing down Communism, repression and simpering sycophants yammering for appeasement ? I recall all too vividly the idealism of “staying out of it”in Europe yet, we ALREADY KNOW of Saddams atrocities and lies - let’s placate him like Hitler - THAT is what rabid anti-American protests are proponents of.
If called - would YOU join our MEN and WOMEN who PROTECT ideals ? If not, please move to Iraq as a human shield - (I hear they can’t wait to get out as Saddam is putting them in front of Military bases, NOT the civilian spots they bleated they wanted to go protect) - Hmmmmm, reality, WHAT A CONCEPT !
Yo Teddy-poo, go take a cold bath back at Chappaquidic - you have NO moral authority, even adultering Jessie boy has more cajones then you by admitting his greenmail and lies -
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HongKongChick wrote:i do agree that sometimes American government does like to mind not only their business, but also other people's business and then when there is something horrible that happened in this country, they blame no body but others! but that's just my opinion!
Just so I understand you correctly, are you saying it was our fault that we were attacked on 9/11? Are we to blame ourselves directly for that? I need to understand what you are trying to say here, HKC.
repo man wrote:I need to understand what you are trying to say here, HKC.
Why?So you can type out a 14 page essay and start an argument?People have their opinions dude. And sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you can't change everyones opinion.I don't think these forums need anymore retarded political threads, so I'd suggest everyone exercise some maturity... I don't think it's worth the bandwidth to discuss "9/11" for the five-hundredth time.
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ninjak84 wrote:Why?So you can type out a 14 page essay and start an argument?People have their opinions dude. And sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you can't change everyones opinion.I don't think these forums need anymore retarded political threads, so I'd suggest everyone exercise some maturity... I don't think it's worth the bandwidth to discuss "9/11" for the five-hundredth time.
Hey, if HKC thinks we brought on 911(not that i think she does) and posts it on here, you better believe she is going to hear about it. 20 years from now, I'll still debate over that one. Things like that and Pearl Harbor aren't just forgotten...To forget those dates is to forget all those who died. I will not stand idely by while some one posts crap like that. Again, I believe it's a misunderstanding, but if it isn't, then its indeed open for both barrels.
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repo man wrote:Just so I understand you correctly, are you saying it was our fault that we were attacked on 9/11? Are we to blame ourselves directly for that? I need to understand what you are trying to say here, HKC.
no point answering that since it's gonna start a huge fight over this and then people will start taking words a little seriously or even misunderstand one's opinion. what some of you are trying to do here is to put thoughts into my mouth and direct some arguements at me, and then try to convince me that u are right and i am wrong where it is only merely my opinion (as i said in my original message meaning to not start arguements)....and you dont consider that minding other people's business?
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WDRacing wrote:Hey, if HKC thinks we brought on 911(not that i think she does) and posts it on here, you better believe she is going to hear about it. 20 years from now, I'll still debate over that one. Things like that and Pearl Harbor aren't just forgotten...To forget those dates is to forget all those who died. I will not stand idely by while some one posts crap like that. Again, I believe it's a misunderstanding, but if it isn't, then its indeed open for both barrels.
WD
see?! like i said, no matter how subjective or objective i want to be, there is always someone putting thoughts into others' mouths...
i never said the US brought 911 on themselves, did i?
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TO ALL: this thread is supposed to extend our love and gratefulness to all the soldiers fighting for us, not to start some political war. so please dont ruin it!
some of my friends and even their parents are being deployed, and i am not about to argue with anyone on political issues, let it just be a peaceful thread that only sends love to our soldiers...
some of my friends and even their parents are being deployed, and i am not about to argue with anyone on political issues, let it just be a peaceful thread that only sends love to our soldiers...
APEXi240 wrote:Well, the Canadian army never really goes anywhere, but deployment is not an American word...Canada has dictionaries right?
Honestly there will not be any draft bill that will need to be passed. We have 150k troops over there right now...I think they will be able to get the job done.
Hey Apex, just for your information about the Canadian Armed Forces not going anyewhere. There is no way you would hear about it unless you paid attention to such things but Canada was in WW I and WW II years before the US. They were in Korea. The Golan Heights, Cypress, Somolia and Desert Storm. Canada provided 10% of the total air strikes in Kosovo. I have a buddy who was doing things like undamming rivers in Yugoslavia 1994 that had become clogged with the victims of Serbian ethnic cleansing (he served two tours and wasn't the same when he came back.) Canada was in Afghanistan where Canadian snipers set the new world record for a long range kill. 4 members of the PPCLI were killed and eight wounded when an Air Guard F-16 dropped a laser guided bomb on them while they were training (remember that?). Canada is in charge of the multinational ship interdiction mission in the Persian Gulf area and will be in charge of Kabul when the US pulls out this coming summer. NORAD is a joint Canada/US operation. I was born on a Canadian Air Force base in Europe so you could say that I was born while deployed. There is life outside of the US.
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VimyJ wrote:There is life outside of the US.
Wait, there is?! SINCE WHEN?!!?
I am just kidding. I love our buddies to the North, it's just fun to make fun of them too. The only way to destroy stereotypes is to laugh at them. That's why shows like Family Guy are so great, it makes fun of stereotypes, not people.
Now if only I, the stereotypical American, could come up with a bigger, more expensive, less efficient way to say this...
Well. It's a good thing I listen to right wing radio. I've heard everything mss has listed.
Quote » Originally posted by msscomm 10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! !
Iraq ADMITTED they had PRODUCED at LEAST that quantity of something as vile as this toxin - when will it end up in another wackos’ hands ? And delivered here ? Are Anti-war proselytizers DEMANDING Iraq admit its own words, AGAIN, and show where the current stock of Tens of THOUSANDS OF LITERS of weapons are ?[/quote]I believe Iraq's words are that they destroyed it right after the Gulf War. If they didn't destroy it, then the inspectors should be given time to discover it. So far there is no evidence of WMD's. We do not know if he has them. There is no evidence. None. Quote »First - I have served and anyone who has, can regard the loss of life as atrocious - newly made friends, comrades, fellow men and women serving - any of "ours" vs "them in the midst of a firefight - it SUCKS and no sane person should look forward to war - [/quote]You would never get an argument from me on that.
Quote »IMHO, while we don’t ask for war - it HAS been brought to our shores - by the very likes of the Iraqi madman and similar fanatics - and are we to sit here and turn the other cheek ?[/quote]War has been brought to the US by radical Muslim extremists. Saddam is not religeous. He is the leader of the Ba'ath party. Bin Laden is only a little less dangerous to Saddam than he is to the US. Iraq is a secular "apostate" state. After the radicals bring the "Great Satan' to its knees the "little Satans" will be dealt with.
"Turn the other cheek"? Yes, if you are Christian.
Quote »Wether you voted for W or not, he MUST act like an adult and adjudicate in the best interest of our country - [/quote]We can only hope.
Quote »Advocate for disarmament from Iraq - don’t think you are infantile enough to tie one hand behind the US’s back - not 12 more years of funfilled inspections -[/quote]The inspections are unfulfilled. That's good news. If Iraq doesn't have WMD's then how can they be found? I don't trust the guy, though, so I think the UN should send in 5,000 more inspectors and just keep poking around forever. It's been 12 years so what's another couple of months for these "pushovers"? One good kick to the nuts and Saddam is history. No doubt about it. So why the rush? Hmmm.... election coming?
Quote » Do you recall a prior “cowboy” standing up as a parental figure and facing down Communism, repression and simpering sycophants yammering for appeasement ?[/quote]
I remember a rickety Reagan running up the national debt to prod the Soviet house of cards. The Soviet Union was already falling apart before Raygun. I see W bankrupting the federal government, plunging the nation into hugh dept and slashing away at federal responsibilities. I.E. Who needs an expensive National Weather Service when the "Weather Channel" could do it? Yosemite could be worth hundred's of millions to the right developer. $50 a head for a public museum shouldn't be out of the question. Religious education for all.
Quote » I recall all too vividly the idealism of “staying out of it”in Europe[/quote]Like Staying out of WW II while the Bush family made fortunes off of playing one side over the other or letting Yugoslavia fester for 10 years before getting involved though the right kicked and screamed under Clinton?
Quote » yet, we ALREADY KNOW of Saddams atrocities and lies - let’s placate him like Hitler - THAT is what rabid anti-American protests are proponents of.[/quote]This is the most specious argument there is. Like Hitler? The guy is totallly contained. There is no evidence that he has any ties to Bin Laden or Al Qaeda. There is a CIA report that came out today that says terrorists groups might surface after Saddam is gone. DUH!!! Still no proof even from the prisoners in Cuba. None. The 9/11 atrocity was committed on the whole by citizens of the great US ally Saudi Arabia not Iraq.
Quote »If called - would YOU join our MEN and WOMEN who PROTECT ideals ?[/quote]To fight for the ideals of the US constitution and the freedom of the free world, yes. However, W & Co. have other intentions. Self defence? Yeah, right. Oil and power? Seems more profitable. The only profit oil man W ever made was selling a baseball team. He lost on all the oil deals his daddy staked him too. He even lost the democratic election! Would you invest money in a guy with a track record like that? He's a longshot at best.
He even went AWOL from his Guard unit and his daddy made it "go away". Guess he thought the ideals of the US weren't threatened by the N. Vietnamese, either.
Quote »If not, please move to Iraq as a human shield - (I hear they can’t wait to get out as Saddam is putting them in front of Military bases, NOT the civilian spots they bleated they wanted to go protect) - Hmmmmm, reality, WHAT A CONCEPT ![/quote]I couldn't care less about human shields. Saddam can stick them up his a$$. I don't give a flying f--K.
Satisfied guys? You tell him that I think WW III between East and West is inevitable. I just don't trust W because of the pack of half truths he keeps insisting is the whole truth.
Quote » Originally posted by msscomm 10,000 liters of Anthrax ! ! !
Iraq ADMITTED they had PRODUCED at LEAST that quantity of something as vile as this toxin - when will it end up in another wackos’ hands ? And delivered here ? Are Anti-war proselytizers DEMANDING Iraq admit its own words, AGAIN, and show where the current stock of Tens of THOUSANDS OF LITERS of weapons are ?[/quote]I believe Iraq's words are that they destroyed it right after the Gulf War. If they didn't destroy it, then the inspectors should be given time to discover it. So far there is no evidence of WMD's. We do not know if he has them. There is no evidence. None. Quote »First - I have served and anyone who has, can regard the loss of life as atrocious - newly made friends, comrades, fellow men and women serving - any of "ours" vs "them in the midst of a firefight - it SUCKS and no sane person should look forward to war - [/quote]You would never get an argument from me on that.
Quote »IMHO, while we don’t ask for war - it HAS been brought to our shores - by the very likes of the Iraqi madman and similar fanatics - and are we to sit here and turn the other cheek ?[/quote]War has been brought to the US by radical Muslim extremists. Saddam is not religeous. He is the leader of the Ba'ath party. Bin Laden is only a little less dangerous to Saddam than he is to the US. Iraq is a secular "apostate" state. After the radicals bring the "Great Satan' to its knees the "little Satans" will be dealt with.
"Turn the other cheek"? Yes, if you are Christian.
Quote »Wether you voted for W or not, he MUST act like an adult and adjudicate in the best interest of our country - [/quote]We can only hope.
Quote »Advocate for disarmament from Iraq - don’t think you are infantile enough to tie one hand behind the US’s back - not 12 more years of funfilled inspections -[/quote]The inspections are unfulfilled. That's good news. If Iraq doesn't have WMD's then how can they be found? I don't trust the guy, though, so I think the UN should send in 5,000 more inspectors and just keep poking around forever. It's been 12 years so what's another couple of months for these "pushovers"? One good kick to the nuts and Saddam is history. No doubt about it. So why the rush? Hmmm.... election coming?
Quote » Do you recall a prior “cowboy” standing up as a parental figure and facing down Communism, repression and simpering sycophants yammering for appeasement ?[/quote]
I remember a rickety Reagan running up the national debt to prod the Soviet house of cards. The Soviet Union was already falling apart before Raygun. I see W bankrupting the federal government, plunging the nation into hugh dept and slashing away at federal responsibilities. I.E. Who needs an expensive National Weather Service when the "Weather Channel" could do it? Yosemite could be worth hundred's of millions to the right developer. $50 a head for a public museum shouldn't be out of the question. Religious education for all.
Quote » I recall all too vividly the idealism of “staying out of it”in Europe[/quote]Like Staying out of WW II while the Bush family made fortunes off of playing one side over the other or letting Yugoslavia fester for 10 years before getting involved though the right kicked and screamed under Clinton?
Quote » yet, we ALREADY KNOW of Saddams atrocities and lies - let’s placate him like Hitler - THAT is what rabid anti-American protests are proponents of.[/quote]This is the most specious argument there is. Like Hitler? The guy is totallly contained. There is no evidence that he has any ties to Bin Laden or Al Qaeda. There is a CIA report that came out today that says terrorists groups might surface after Saddam is gone. DUH!!! Still no proof even from the prisoners in Cuba. None. The 9/11 atrocity was committed on the whole by citizens of the great US ally Saudi Arabia not Iraq.
Quote »If called - would YOU join our MEN and WOMEN who PROTECT ideals ?[/quote]To fight for the ideals of the US constitution and the freedom of the free world, yes. However, W & Co. have other intentions. Self defence? Yeah, right. Oil and power? Seems more profitable. The only profit oil man W ever made was selling a baseball team. He lost on all the oil deals his daddy staked him too. He even lost the democratic election! Would you invest money in a guy with a track record like that? He's a longshot at best.
He even went AWOL from his Guard unit and his daddy made it "go away". Guess he thought the ideals of the US weren't threatened by the N. Vietnamese, either.
Quote »If not, please move to Iraq as a human shield - (I hear they can’t wait to get out as Saddam is putting them in front of Military bases, NOT the civilian spots they bleated they wanted to go protect) - Hmmmmm, reality, WHAT A CONCEPT ![/quote]I couldn't care less about human shields. Saddam can stick them up his a$$. I don't give a flying f--K.
Satisfied guys? You tell him that I think WW III between East and West is inevitable. I just don't trust W because of the pack of half truths he keeps insisting is the whole truth.