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Deployment news from the second largest country in the world:

http://www.globeandmail.com/se...ional


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I just spent the week in Your lovely Second City - mostly 40 degrees and that Lake Wind, along with that spurt to 68 on Thursday - You can KEEP it ! I'll take my little cow town here in San Diego.
VimyJ wrote:And again, it would be my pleasure to buy if WMD's are found. I don't think "Manhattens" would be a good choice somehow.


After rushing to catch up on Saturday - it seems that the troops have just "chanced" onto an unknown Chemical Bunker on their jaunt into Baghdad - I hear the treasure is in the intelligence being examined - stay tuned - that drink may be overdue by mid-week. - That first cold one is already sounding good in my minds eye -
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Do NOT lower yourself to that level - I find ABSOLUTELY NO REDEEMING VALUE in your using that phrase - while I might enjoy shooting the breeze w/you as an intelligent sot with your own opinions - I will not dignify a conversation from anyone who laughingly uses that phrase too blithely -

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I add this header after reading the post. Please read it to the end before you form your ultimate opinion and have some sympathy for a guy who passionately did not want things to come to this. I am not anti US and I am not a pacifist. Far from it.

[quote=" msscomm I just spent the week in Your lovely Second City - mostly 40 degrees and that Lake Wind, along with that spurt to 68 on Thursday - You can KEEP it ! I'll take my little cow town here in San Diego.[/quote]You left a day too early. We had a beautiful weekend with temps in the high 60's. Hopefully, we'll get some decent rain this week so that things will really start to green up. We had a very dry winter here and things look as brown as S. Cal.

Quote »After rushing to catch up on Saturday - it seems that the troops have just "chanced" onto an unknown Chemical Bunker on their jaunt into Baghdad - I hear the treasure is in the intelligence being examined - stay tuned[/quote]I have it on good authority that any decently equipped university lab has the facility to produce bio weapons. So, you could say that "evidence" will be found even if there is no evidence. Let's face it, lack of evidence for WMD's would put a severe crimp in the administration's argument for invasion and occupation.

Quote » - that drink may be overdue by mid-week. - That first cold one is already sounding good in my minds eye -[/quote]If a drink is sounding good to you, then W must be parched. Let's hope this factory (that was how I heard it described) isn't a WMD mirage (oops! French word).

Quote »Do NOT lower yourself to that level - I find ABSOLUTELY NO REDEEMING VALUE in your using that phrase - while I might enjoy shooting the breeze w/you as an intelligent sot with your own opinions - I will not dignify a conversation from anyone who laughingly uses that phrase too blithely - [/quote]

I certainly do not use that term "laughingly" or lightly. My point had to do with the comparison of regimes' techniques to whip their population into a frenzy for war. You know as well as I that this isn't a war of self defence. The evidence just isn't there (I'm watching Gen. Franks' briefing right now and no mention of WMD's being found or used).

Just so there is no confusion, I support the soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines in this action. I have no support or respect for their commander in chief. The president is not the flag or the United States. He is a politician (and an oilman).

There is a great hue and cry going up presently about Russians selling nightvision gear to the Iraqis. This is a bad development for US and British forces. Imagine that, a nation profiting off of armed conflict. However, because this invasion is being launched outside the norms of traditional international law, there is no legal way to redress the Russian's quest for profits. Diplomatic means are the traditional recourse but now we have had gaping holes blown in the diplomatic process through precedent. This goes back to my argument that this war should have been prosecuted under the auspices of the UN. To have the whole world (at least the western part) on board would have reduced the number and scale of "complications." The failure of diplomacy is going to get a lot more people killed than might otherwise have been the case.

I'm not a religious person but I know a lot of the troops are so I say Godspeed to them. I wish for this conflict over as quickly as possible. My family's sincerest condolences to the families of those killed, missing or wounded.

Crap! Now the cable news outlets are exploiting the emotions of the poor families who have had their sons and daughters killed or captured. I hate this all this $hit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dead American soldiers on Al jeezera (sp?) flooding the internet! War. Video of terrified twentysomethings scared for their lives!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, we have war now and all that goes along with it. Heaven help us all.

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Mike - Dammit, boy, you've made some good points. You've gotten into people's heads, and I'm sure I can speak for most of us who frequent these threads to say we're all watching the news with things you've said in the back of our collective minds. You've pissed me off beyond comprehension and you've made me chuckle as well. You've shown flashes of brillance and some fleeting, episodic stupidity, and either way you're still here (as much as it chafes my bum sometimes) and that's a good sign. :D

All in all, well said. I'll go ahead and close this (to stay consistent and fair) and to prevent any further casualties or hurt feelings. Nothing personal at all, good post.


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