Copilot

[Fearsome_tea]

Has anybody checked out that new program for power FCs. Free too. I got more info if anybodies intrested.

[Yellow4g63]

Has anybody checked out that new program for power FCs. Free too. I got more info if anybodies intrested.

A free english program for the PFC? who would want that. Get out of here!

[USMCgetsome]

drop the knowledge sir. I await!

[RB24D]

YES please relinquish the information

[StricNyne]

http://www.mr-s.org/copilot/Copilot_2_0_8.doc

user guide

only compatible with rb25det

edit

yessss it does rb26 as well w00t

re edit

bah u still need a datalogit box but this has autotune for making a base map which is impressive, and he us constantly tweeking it, can anyone fabiricate the datalogit box only ?
Modified by StricNyne at 3:05 PM 9/17/2008

[gawdzilla]

never heard of it but sounds promising. I'd like more info if possible, thanks.

bah u still need a datalogit box but this has autotune for making a base map which is impressive, and he us constantly tweeking it, can anyone fabiricate the datalogit box only ?

i saw a sketchy schematic for building one a few years back, but i doubt anyone really has built one. better to just buy one i guess

[240z4u]

How do you know it works on the RB cars?

I have been over at the MR2 forums reading about this, it seems promising. The free version is a lite version, full version is cheap at $40 or so from what I am reading.

http://spyderchat.com/forums/i...t=480

Evan

[StricNyne]

its all freeware from what i read, but having to buy the datalogit box is a pain, its like 300 bux and it only comes software, like there is no option to just buy the box

[StricNyne]

ahh i remeber talkin to JON POWELL about this a while ago, the racebread link is dead, but once i saw the name paul in the link i know exactly who has it... paulr33 from SAU, so i got a link to him !

helps when i put the link in

http://paulr33.skylinesaustralia.com/

[240z4u]

its all freeware from what i read, but having to buy the datalogit box is a pain, its like 300 bux and it only comes software, like there is no option to just buy the box

The latest freeware was 2.0.6, there is a newer version thats not free. but at $40 whos complaining!?

Buck up and buy the FC datalogit box and software, its worth every single shilling. IMO the power FC sucks without it.

Evan

[StricNyne]

yeah 40bux is nothing but the i think 300 right now for the dataloggit for me is IMPOSSIBLE, i can barely afford to eat sux but its a college thing, i viewed that link to making the interface, and i think a combination of stephen hawking and bill gates could figure it out in a week or so that option is null

[240z4u]

yeah 40bux is nothing but the i think 300 right now for the dataloggit for me is IMPOSSIBLE, i can barely afford to eat sux but its a college thing, i viewed that link to making the interface, and i think a combination of stephen hawking and bill gates could figure it out in a week or so that option is null

You will find the power FC miserable to use without the datalogit software. Most tuning shops won't touch it without it.

Evan

[StricNyne]

hehe i know , i think it might of played in the death of my old motor there are some power excel shops where i live though, more than likely i planned on spending the dough for the datalogit box originally so i will probally just pony up as soon as i get some moulah

[240z4u]

hehe i know , i think it might of played in the death of my old motor there are some power excel shops where i live though, more than likely i planned on spending the dough for the datalogit box originally so i will probally just pony up as soon as i get some moulah

It took me a year to come up with the money, totally worth every penny.

Also they are saying right now copilot is not compatible with the black box fc setup anyway. Some dude volunteered to try it out on his car so hopefully they get it sorted.

Evan
Modified by 240z4u at 3:02 PM 9/17/2008

[Fearsome_tea]

There are some small problems though getting it to work for the RB's. But no worries its being worked out right now. Friend of mine is working with the guy to fix the problem. As soon as thats done I will post up more info. Self tunning. If i am not mistaken the new version is free.

http://www.mr-s.org/copilot/Copilot_3_2_4.zip
Modified by Fearsome_tea at 4:47 PM 9/17/2008

[StricNyne]

I read through it all its free (well i downloaded i for free lol) still issue with pc connectivity

[240z4u]

PLEASE keep this updated, it would be awesome.

Thanks.

Evan

[ANVIL]

already have pfc+datalogit. copilot looks promising!

[Darius]

I don't know how many of you have looked at this software, but it makes datalogit look like an outdated pile of $hit. cdorhout and I have been trying to get it to work on the RB25, but haven't had luck. Copilot is requiring an intake temp which the RB25 does not have and it will not auto-tune without it.

Did I mention that it has a built in two-step?

[ANVIL]

how are the graphs in copilot? the ones in datalogit seem useless, and are goofy in 3d, hard to read.

most other stand alone software ive seen, you can click on the different graphs and it will show you which cells those are when you are trying to adjust something. that would be nice to have

[240z4u]

I don't know how many of you have looked at this software, but it makes datalogit look like an outdated pile of $hit. cdorhout and I have been trying to get it to work on the RB25, but haven't had luck. Copilot is requiring an intake temp which the RB25 does not have and it will not auto-tune without it.

Did I mention that it has a built in two-step?

Do you guys have the black boxes? Rumor has it it works with the gray boxes.

Fearsometea, give us some info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Darius]

The graphing looks 10X better and more user friendly than datalogit. And I'm not sure if the box version matters or not. I'm assuming it won't.

[cdorhout]

Do you guys have the black boxes? Rumor has it it works with the gray boxes.

Fearsometea, give us some info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, it's been verified to work on both the beige and black boxes. Mine is working just fine, I just can't get the auto-tune to work. Other than that, its very nice. Lots of cool stuff in it.It can graph each gear your in by calcualting mph vs rpm, all sorts of cool little gadgets.

[240z4u]

Aw dude, awesome. As far as I had read no worky with the black box.

I can live without auto tune.

Does the launch control work?

Evan

[cdorhout]

Does the launch control work?

I don't know. Its just a lowered rev limiter though, so I'm not sure if thats technically a "launch control" but we'll see.Darius said he'd be the one to test it by setting it and mashing the gas in neutral.

[240z4u]

I don't know. Its just a lowered rev limiter though, so I'm not sure if thats technically a "launch control" but we'll see.Darius said he'd be the one to test it by setting it and mashing the gas in neutral.

Okay so its not a "real" launch control. Bummer. Darius being the guinea pig is awesome. Lemme know, because unless this can auto tune or launch control or something I don't see much reason to switch to it. Do you guys? I know fc edit VERY well now and don't wanna learn something else if its not needed.

Evan
Modified by 240z4u at 4:40 PM 10/1/2008

[ANVIL]

I don't know. Its just a lowered rev limiter though, so I'm not sure if thats technically a "launch control" but we'll see.Darius said he'd be the one to test it by setting it and mashing the gas in neutral.

u can do that with even just having the hand controller, setting the rev limit to whatever u want for when you are going 0mph

[Darius]

LOL yes yes you could do that with the hand controller, but then you have to sit there and hold the button to raise the rev limiter back up to 7k before shifting again.

I can't imagine that the launch control is as simple as it sounds. From reading the 35 page thread, it sounded like he hacked the launch control coding from PFC Pro.

240z4u- I honestly like the interface of Copilot better. Even if it doesn't auto-tune, the graphing is so much easier to setup. I think if you start using it, you'll see the difference is sizeable. And why the hell doesn't datalogit put out an update to make their software not look so 1990?

[240z4u]

Darius, I agree the FC edit is the most archaic looking software ever but it took me a bit to be comfortable with it. Not really wanting another learning curve unless there is some big payoff LOL.

Let us know on the launch control, that would be more than adequate reason for me to swap.

Evan

[ANVIL]

LOL yes yes you could do that with the hand controller, but then you have to sit there and hold the button to raise the rev limiter back up to 7k before shifting again.

not really. theres a setting for rev limit @ x MPH. so once the car moves it will go back to whatever ur rev limit is