can some1 tell me a good brand of exhaust to buy?

Post by **Lepchitz1** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

how much is the single...does it sound better? worse?

Post by **Tino** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

If your going for sound and not peformance go with apexi n1 single, however the dual which is a little milder gives you more performance.

ps: This info I have relayed is not from personal experience.

Oh ya and I'm not saying the single doesn't perform well its just not as good as the dual. Good top end performance and even better for turbo apps.

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

From what I can gather... the n1 is cheaper... it can be ordered in 3" or 2.5".... you will lose a LITTLE low end torque in N/A applications...... gains on top end.... little change to mid-range... utilizes a single canister with a 120mm tip.... better for turbo applications.

The Dual splits just after the cat, into 2 smaller pipes. They flow into two 120mm canisters with 90mm tips.... you lose VERY LITTLE or no low end..... improves mid-range and highend.... better for N/A applications

Both will work fine in either case... so the n1 may be a better alternative because of price.... I just don't like a giant can sticking out of my car... two smaller ones look much nicer. They both have SUS 304 stainless steel canisters and tips... and the dual has a "High-temperature titanium particle coating" that prevents rusting.

Post by **cndctrdj** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

i think the best way to go is buy a muffler and have a shop put in its own pipes. i fyou really want a unique sound buy a borla they make almost eveyrthing sound incredible. it will definatly not sound like a honda more like a 302 ford

Post by **lateralmotion** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

gosh darnit i'm jealous my friend who doesn't even have his license yet already has the N1 single on his '98 eclipse, cause his dad is a rich @$$, (his mom already has that new cadillac that's like 75k that hasn't even come out yet, don't ask how, cause i sure as hell don't know) and that guy gave my other friend a job at his dad's airport, so my other friend now has the n1 single on his 2000 civic si, and they are making me very very angry cause i have been wanting that frickin exhaust forever and they saw it in one of my mags and were just like hey thats cool and blammo they got it. now they are telling me i am copying them for getting it? wtf is that? atleast i can still beat both of them with like 50 bucks in aftermarket stuff as opposed to their total of like 1000 each

Post by **lateralmotion** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

hehe i was thinking of getting that borla muffler/collector thing then running it out the back like in place of the license plate, kinda like the pagani zonda that would be original atleast, if not too ricey

Post by **chrispy** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

wait i thought that the apexi n1 dual was a 3" then splits into 2 2.25" or something.

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

chrispy wrote:wait i thought that the apexi n1 dual was a 3" then splits into 2 2.25" or something.

It splits less than a foot after the cat (maybe 8"). The first pipe is around 3" I would guess.... I didn't measure it, and none of the paperwork explains it....

Post by **skydragoness** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

ok, i've decided, i'm either going to get a 5zigen muff or an Apexi N1, going to get silencers too, and i have my eye on the high-flow cat from Rollhard. I'll take my car to some reputable person, when i find them, and have them put on 2.5' or less piping, so that if i ever go turbo in the future, few years probably, i'll have them slap on some 3' piping then...

good idea?

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

skydragoness5 wrote:ok, i've decided, i'm either going to get a 5zigen muff or an Apexi N1, going to get silencers too, and i have my eye on the high-flow cat from Rollhard. I'll take my car to some reputable person, when i find them, and have them put on 2.5' or less piping, so that if i ever go turbo in the future, few years probably, i'll have them slap on some 3' piping then...

good idea?

Great idea... you're so smart Sky!!! I didn't really worry about the possible future turbo application, because by then I'll be less concerned about finances. I WILL NOT throw a turbo into this car until I have the money to build the engine properly, and have plenty of disposable income to sink into it. I don't want to get stuck in a money pinch because I don't have the resources to fix any incedentals that come along with putting a turbo on an older engine. It's only a 95.... but it's not brand new.... and there are always little problems that arise.... such as exploding KA's!!!

Website · Post by **drifter** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

skydragoness5 wrote:ok, i've decided, i'm either going to get a 5zigen muff or an Apexi N1, going to get silencers too, and i have my eye on the high-flow cat from Rollhard. I'll take my car to some reputable person, when i find them, and have them put on 2.5' or less piping, so that if i ever go turbo in the future, few years probably, i'll have them slap on some 3' piping then...

good idea?

Great idea, only you don't really need a high flow cat. The OEM Nissan ones flow really well already.... : )

Good luck!

Post by **illusion** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

ok.... so is there anything more subtle?? ... i mean... the apexi N1 dual is ok.. but still a bit much... and a single big fartcan is definately not acceptable no moatter how it sounds or who makes it...

Jeff

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

Apexi also makes the WS (world sport) muffler. I don't think there is an entire cat-back available for the s14 utilizing the WS muffler. But you could easily have it welded to your stock pipes, or have a muffler shop hang new pipes and the Apexi WS muffler. Here is their description:

"The WS concept is A'Pex's interpretation of how each vehicle's exhaust system should have looked and performed right from the factory. Designed with the daily driver in mind, this exhaust series focuses on drawing out mid-range torque and engine response for optimal drivability on the street. The styling is subtle and elegant, but still retains characteristics of its racing origin. The result is an affordable cat-back exhaust system that makes the daily commute more enjoyable."

It looks like a stainless steel muffler, shaped similar to stock, with a nice simple looking tip. It IS NOT A CANISTER like the rest of the Apexi exhausts... it looks like a polished off stock muffler.

Post by **Nissan+speed=fun** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

anyone have info/exsperience with the greddy dd or 5-zigen fireball on jpec.com?

Post by **chrispy** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

ok i figured out that nobody has a apexi n1 dual instock.. not rollhard , not enjuki ........does anyone know who has them instock?

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

chrispy wrote:ok i figured out that nobody has a apexi n1 dual instock.. not rollhard , not enjuki ........does anyone know who has them instock?

I ordered mine locally to begin with. 2 weeks AFTER I ordered it, the shop told me it was on back order. I went to 2 other local parts stores, and they had the same story... they are on back order FROM THE FACTORY with no projected date to manufacter more of them. Try Heavy Throttle..... I payed $50 more than I would have locally, but it was the only source I found that had them on hand. They guy was very helpful, and called ME back to chat so it wasn't on my dime!!! (killer customer service as far as I'm concerned) Anyway, he said they have, "a couple left". I don't know if this was just a sales pitch, but I wanted one and I bought it. Hopefully they still have a couple kicking around. They shipped it that day, and I had it 3 business days later. I believe they are at heavythrottle.com but you should call them, the number is on the web sight.

Website · Post by **drifter** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

hey maineimport

how are the greddy headers working for you? does it need to be custom fitted to be installed?

Post by **Megaseth** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

I wonder if them being on back order has something to do with the strikes over on the west coast?

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

drifter wrote:hey maineimport

how are the greddy headers working for you? does it need to be custom fitted to be installed?

They fit fine, no custom hack job.... So far they have held up, but several people have had the welds crack.

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

Megaseth wrote:I wonder if them being on back order has something to do with the strikes over on the west coast?

My shopping all occured way before the strike.

Post by **bruinbear714** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

hey maine,

DId you install the exhaust yet? How's the sound and performance gains?

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

bruinbear714 wrote:hey maine,

DId you install the exhaust yet? How's the sound and performance gains?

I went back to Vermont to use my friend's garage. We put it on about 2 weeks ago. It sounds very nice... louder than I'd like, but not as loud and whiney as a Honda. Performance gains are very noticable highend and mid-range. I get a lot of people checking out my car now... not real happy about that, but it comes with the territory. My car looks totally stock, except for the exhaust sticking out the back. I don't need the attention from anybody, that's why I chose the dual... a little quieter and looks almost like stock.

Post by **stickgoat** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

Just for reference, the Apexi N1 Dual cat-back is available for $540 from optionsauto.com

Anyone have any actual numbers on gains from this system? It's what I'm leaning towards for my S14 when I have the money available.

Post by **Tino** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

poor boy = apexi fart cannon

Post by **cndctrdj** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

i'll be putting a flowmaster on mine soon enough im not worried about performance i just want something to not cost me more than 100 dollars installed. hopefully it will be loud the one on my z24 nissan truck is soo loud

Post by **Tino** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

first off its your sisters, If I had my way girls wouldn't be driving 240's.

Post by **cndctrdj** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

true it is my sisters but her taste is like mine

p.s. her b day is nov4 so technically its mine till then since i bought it

Post by **Bobby_Wu** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

how will it effect the performance if i did get a 3" exhaust for a non-turbo engine?

Post by **MaineExport** » Mon Sep 30, 2002 6:05 pm

Bobby_Wu wrote:how will it effect the performance if i did get a 3" exhaust for a non-turbo engine?

You'll lose some low-end torque.... but nothing too drastic. If you plan on going turbo, get the 3" pipes... if not... don't go that large... it's just not worth it.

can some1 tell me a good brand of exhaust to buy?

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