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yelnatsch517
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IvanAtSPRacing wrote:
Yes, the motor is built to handle boost. Hitting 400whp wont break ring lands like on the stock motor. Plus the fact that everything else in the motor is new or remanufactured back to new tolerances. No leaky gaskets, Factory Nissan upgraded timing chains, guides and tensioners. Basically your starting out with a ZERO mile motor. Everything motor releated is there and done. Put a good quality turbo kit, fuel system, intercooler, engine management system, and exhaust and your set to go. Clutch, LSD, and a set of tires and drive your way into the 11s at the track or hang next to a BPU Supra on the highway. Show the LS1s some import love.

As far as getting an RB25 for your car. I think its a stretch that you will be able to find an RB25 with ECU, wire harness, trans, ignitor, etc for 4000 bux. Even if you do, then there is shipping on that. Then there is the 1200 bux you will need to spend for the motor mounts, trans mount, and driveshaft. Of course, you will need a radiator and fan that will work with the extended length of the motor and you will also need an intercooler that will fit. After everything is done and said, you have a ??? mile motor in questionable shape. I dont think that there is any real way to compare the two.
GOOD stuff Ok, now all that is left is to save up.


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I might be intrested in this a few months down the road, if I don't pick up another project car. I currently have 2 KAs at my disposal and maybe a 3rd by this weekend. I only live about 80 miles from chicago.

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IvanAtSPRacing wrote:
Yes, the motor is built to handle boost. Hitting 400whp wont break ring lands like on the stock motor. Plus the fact that everything else in the motor is new or remanufactured back to new tolerances. No leaky gaskets, Factory Nissan upgraded timing chains, guides and tensioners. Basically your starting out with a ZERO mile motor. Everything motor releated is there and done. Put a good quality turbo kit, fuel system, intercooler, engine management system, and exhaust and your set to go. Clutch, LSD, and a set of tires and drive your way into the 11s at the track or hang next to a BPU Supra on the highway. Show the LS1s some import love.

As far as getting an RB25 for your car. I think its a stretch that you will be able to find an RB25 with ECU, wire harness, trans, ignitor, etc for 4000 bux. Even if you do, then there is shipping on that. Then there is the 1200 bux you will need to spend for the motor mounts, trans mount, and driveshaft. Of course, you will need a radiator and fan that will work with the extended length of the motor and you will also need an intercooler that will fit. After everything is done and said, you have a ??? mile motor in questionable shape. I dont think that there is any real way to compare the two.
Will a 240 with that engine cranking out 400hp be able to keep up with an m3 using a performance chip (not dynoed prob 400hp+? or stock/slightly modified lan-evo mr? Just wondering because two of my brothers friends drive those cars and I just wanted to get them to "truly respect a 240sx."

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I dont believe that the M3 or lightly modded Evo would be able to keep up. I dont think an M3 would have anywhere near 400 WHP (probably more like 300) with a chip and the weight HAS to be a quite a bit more then a 240. The Evo with stock turbo and intercooler and everything else modded still wouldnt be able to run with you once you were both rolling. You will probably get spanked out of the hole though.

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yea most EVOs running around dont have 400+hp so you should be able to beat them.i've run 4 different ones from a roll and they keep with me right at first since they spool up real quick, but as soon as I hit the next gear, its over. now from a stop, it takes me 1 gear to catch up and then pass them.

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IvanAtSPRacing wrote:I dont believe that the M3 or lightly modded Evo would be able to keep up. I dont think an M3 would have anywhere near 400 WHP (probably more like 300) with a chip and the weight HAS to be a quite a bit more then a 240. The Evo with stock turbo and intercooler and everything else modded still wouldnt be able to run with you once you were both rolling. You will probably get spanked out of the hole though.
klattr1 wrote:yea most EVOs running around dont have 400+hp so you should be able to beat them.i've run 4 different ones from a roll and they keep with me right at first since they spool up real quick, but as soon as I hit the next gear, its over. now from a stop, it takes me 1 gear to catch up and then pass them.
Nice . Now all is left is to save up some money. What do I have to do to the Greddy turbo to get 400hp? I need the greddy because I want the Carb exempt certificate (socal cops suck). As long as I have the certificate I think I'll be fine. I might be able to change a few parts from the turbo without the cops knowing. Either that or I will have to buy a certificate off of someone (highly doubt that I could find one). Also which FMIC will fit nicely on a s15 front (where can i get one). Will the dual apexi N1's go nicely with 400hp or will I have to step it up to the GT exhaust? Can't wait to see the looks on their faces .

Is this kit anygood?Ebay S15 Conversion Kit
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I would be very very careful when buying most anything off ebay. That kit is made of fiberglass, which almost never looks good. The I will put money on something in that kit either ariving cracked, or not lining up with the body.

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npaulseth wrote:I would be very very careful when buying most anything off ebay. That kit is made of fiberglass, which almost never looks good. The I will put money on something in that kit either ariving cracked, or not lining up with the body.
Hmm, k. Yea, I never trust anything from ebay either, but that is the only place I can find that sells stock looking s15 conversions. Anyone know anyplace else that sells them? I like how the stock s15 bumper looks with that little middle vertical piece (can be seen in the ebay kit). Wonder where Ivan got his stuff from.

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I got my stuff from an importer in Cali. I got bent over buying the VIS glass fenders TWICE. I ended up getting metal S15 fenders used for 450 bux and the stock S15 bumper cover used (and damaged) for 350 bux. I paid 800 bux to get the fenders cut and welded to the cut S14 fenders. Lights you can find on Ebay all the time. I got a stock headlight bracket that runs from fender to fender that also supports the stock bumper cover. The stock 95 S14 core support was modified to fit the headlights. The hood is VIS stock S15. Overall, my experince sucked. I spent a LOT of money, but I do believe that it all fits quite well with the factory pieces. I had two 240s at the time, one with major front right damage and one with light front right damage. I could have fixed both for a lot less, but I ended up getting the S15 stuff because I really do love the way the front looks and wanted the more aerodynamic design for my race car. I ended up swapping most of the front of my drag car to fix the really damaged 5 speed and then painting the whole car and selling it.

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yelnatsch517 wrote:
Will a 240 with that engine cranking out 400hp be able to keep up with an m3 using a performance chip (not dynoed prob 400hp+? or stock/slightly modified lan-evo mr? Just wondering because two of my brothers friends drive those cars and I just wanted to get them to "truly respect a 240sx."
My car right now is as fast as an un-modded M3 convertible to 60 mph...and it's only at 9 psi on a tiny turbo.

An M3, IIRC, has 333 crank hp and 262 lb-foot of torque...It's by no means a torquey engine and shouldn't take a KA-T off the line even with a large turbo...it will NEVER get to 400 rwhp without some form of supercharging...those M-engines are massaged for the absolute MAX horsepower and performance in a naturally aspirated state from the factory...a "chipped" M3 might have like 340 crank hp, but that still only equates to like 290 rwhp...these engines are capable of 110 more rwhp, and the s14 is a good 650 pounds lighter than an M3, which means it'd never be able to keep up, period. And who cares about lancers...they're quite possibly the ugliest 4 door car ever produced, only matched by the wrx. Puke.


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