Building a drifter need some guidance....

[White Comet]

OK WC one second you say Stitch is where u leave gaps for flex? I believe you are talkin about skip welds? stitch welds is kinda like stitching a piece of cloth together. you pull the trigger created a weld bead stop let cool and then repeat to slightly overlap the previous bead at least that is has i was taught years ago and i have welded for almost 6 years now.

hmm there might be different terminologies for different people, but i have always heard welding the entire seam w/ leaving no gaps referred to as seam welding, and stitch welding is where u leave space between short welds. no matter what u call it, be sure to leave that gap to allow for flex.

according to a quick google search stitch welding is indeed leaving a gap, but different places could call it different thingshttp://www.answers.com/stitch+...ology

[WideBody240]

yea i understand what your saying cause continous welds are not hard to break with alot of stress. i was just taught a difference method of stitch welds instead of leaving space for flex but its the same concept. thanks again man....do u have any advice on wheels? or just stick to steelies?

[Drifter S]

pretty much any wheel will do for sliding.. obviously lighter is better, but u dont wanna have a ton of money tied up in drift wheels as when u pop a tire u will prolly chew the lip and rim up and theres also the occasional bend.. ive experienced that a few times once on my advan wheels.. it cost me 140 per wheel to fix. not cheep.. sportmax as well as rota and the like make cheaper wheels that are fairly light. a good 15x8 with a stretched tire is a good way to go.. the stretched tire has a stiffer sidewall and virtually no sidewall flex.. making sliding more predictable as the tire usually actx about the same even after warming up or cooling other than rubber compound reacting to the heat change. a smaller tire/wheel will also result in more torque kinda like a different final drive will. depending on the power u are putting down u can use wheel changes to change your gear ratio rather than changing the actual final drive ring and pinion gear set. but all in all for learning just dig up some stock 240 wheels they are cheap and if u screw one up... u arent out much money.

[White Comet]

glad to help. as far as wheels go, get something w/ a decent width to it so u can have a bigger contact pathc. focus more on the tires there, iirc there a few made specifically for drifting, i think hte nitto neo gen or something. im pretty happy w/ my falkens

[Joe]

the neogen isnt a drift tire

and to the OP, start driving first

dont worry about building a car

theres nothing funnier than watching this fully built car show up to an event and having a TOTAL moron behind the wheel. stock cars are incredibly forgiving so you cant get yourself into too much trouble, but at the same time cant do some of the "bigger" stuff.

thats why you upgrade as you drive. so you can continue to learn rather than being thrown into a car that will eat you alive because you wont know how to drive it or set it up.

[White Comet]

the neogen isnt a drift tire

and to the OP, start driving first

dont worry about building a car

theres nothing funnier than watching this fully built car show up to an event and having a TOTAL moron behind the wheel. stock cars are incredibly forgiving so you cant get yourself into too much trouble, but at the same time cant do some of the "bigger" stuff.

thats why you upgrade as you drive. so you can continue to learn rather than being thrown into a car that will eat you alive because you wont know how to drive it or set it up.

i cant remember the drift specific tires ive seen so i guessed. im w/ u 100% on driving first but assuming he knows that i figured i'd give some good info on the workings of the car. hes gonna have to take care of working on himself as a driver

[Slappy]

Building a drifter need some guidance

You get in your car and practice. The car doesnt become a drift car , the driver becomes a drifter.

[idahotuner]

you will need and LSD though

[Slappy]

you will need and LSD though

I drifted for 2.5 years on an open diff and people swore i had a LSD. So has my buddy Fife. Its about the driver.

[idahotuner]

all i know is i tried it wiht my open diff and it was unpredictalbe and scray as crap

[Slappy]

I found it unpredictalbe at high speed drifts only. But yea , an LSD is always a nice upgrade when you've reached that point. But then again , they are expensive as hell unless you get a VLSD.

[WideBody240]

well i have been driving and learning to drift for going on 2 years now. i started when i was 20 and honestly i just got on a forum asked what was a good setup for a basic car and if u notice that is what i have coilovers, lsd, and sr20. i got the sr20 cuase my stock block blew up. but i have gotten good at driving with those upgrades. i am no pro by any means wish to be, lol. but i appreciate everyone's help. as for the wheels and tires i have been useing stock 240sx wheels but i dont remember what tires i last had on them. but my car wont be a show vechile pulling up to drift and me not know how to drive or do anyhting. it will be clean in a few years once i get to the point at which i say damn i am good LOL. but until then its all drifting performance work. thanks again everyone. this thread is making me want to fix my 240sx instead of buy a new one but mine is totalled

[White Comet]

you will need and LSD though

he already has one

I found it unpredictalbe at high speed drifts only. But yea , an LSD is always a nice upgrade when you've reached that point. But then again , they are expensive as hell unless you get a VLSD.

its true, u can get away w/ an open diff for most things, and i did use open diff for a while. but when u go from an fc w/ vlsd to an open diff s13 its a big difference

[WideBody240]

yea and my lsd wasnt cheap lol....1200 dollars. so i am glad to get that behind me lol. but thanks everyone

[Duce40sx]

not wanting to beat my car apart is exactly why i am building it to be a street machine and occasional drag car

Very nice. Yeah, we should all have at least 2 Nissans. A daily and a track. I guess the answer comes down to, "if you have money, you can do it."

If you have little money, you can do it, but not much freedom.

If you have a lot of money, you wouldn't be on NICO.

And I would go with an S15 Helical just because I love OEMness.

[WideBody240]

well i got another car but its not a nissan lol its a turbo honda lol. plus i have an older s10 incase the civic motor has problems lol. those are my dd the 240 is all track so its not a big problem if the car fails that is the only plus to this. its best to have more than one car if u have a car u wish to use and abuse as much as drift cars go thru.

[idahotuner]

yea i have a honda accord for my dd. and my 240 is my toy lol.

[White Comet]

And I would go with an S15 Helical just because I love OEMness.

yeah but that wouldnt be a good set up for a drift car, and i dont know but im not overly impressed w/ the hlsd

[idahotuner]

dont the hlds wear out after a while and become the same as an open diff. or is that a vlsd.

i am thinking a Kaaz 1.5 for my car.

[White Comet]

dont the hlds wear out after a while and become the same as an open diff. or is that a vlsd.

i am thinking a Kaaz 1.5 for my car.

i think its the vlsd but thats after some heavy wear and abuse. i personally just dont like the hlsd

[Slappy]

Fluid in the VLSD gets hot after a few hours of drifting and will react like an open diff , but it'll still sends torque , no matter how minimum , to both wheels. Just sit still for awhile till it cools down. Vlsd's can wear out , maybe you get one thats got alot of life left or you might get one thats on its least leg. Gamble. If you buy a real LSD , you will have to do the proper break in procedure , then drain the fluid and fill it back up , and maintenance it depending how hard/often you drive on it.

[White Comet]

yeah im gonna get a 2 way but for now the vlsd was only $150 shipped, and i really started to hate the stock open diff

[idahotuner]

i wont be driving it super hard. i could proably fidn a vlsd for a good deal and be perfectly fine. but i want a new one. ithink or one with really low miles on it. well i will think about this. what is your guys input

[White Comet]

if u have the money get a clutch type and call it a day

[idahotuner]

well the clutch type is in my budget. lolmy budget for car parts is 749 $ for the next 5 months

[idahotuner]

that is per month for the next 5 months after the end of dec.this month i am spedning 1900 on my car. yahoo. get the big stuff outta the way

[White Comet]

well the clutch type is in my budget. lolmy budget for car parts is 749 $ for the next 5 months

that doesnt make sense, the clutch type will cost more than that, yet u say its in ur budget

[idahotuner]

haha i know it will cost more then that. but to have my car finished by the end of may i need to make 749 dollars a month to put into it. and for some months it will be more and some less but that is my average lol.

[White Comet]

i c, ur first statement about it was kinda confusing

[idahotuner]

lol i should have said the budget for my car for 2008 will be 4000dollars. that would have been plan and simple