Building a drifter need some guidance....

[s14tan]

^ Correct.No problem.

[RCCC_DRiFteR]

LoL where would I by without you

[s14tan]

Probably still wondering a few things, but you would be ok Someone else would of came along eventually..

Just glad I could help.

[RCCC_DRiFteR]

yep. thanks alot. hey, check your myspace if you got a chance

[s14tan]

Done.

[RCCC_DRiFteR]

let me rfresh and see whats good with it

[s14tan]

[RCCC_DRiFteR]

good ish

[s14tan]

Yup

I'm a ninja

[RCCC_DRiFteR]

If only i was like that. . .

[Duce40sx]

IBWC X2

Is he sick or what??

Drifting is just a waste of tires. Just build a fast daily driver.

[sr20powerd]

Just don't buy another 240, you're the reason why my insurance is so high.

[White Comet]

nah im not sick just busy for once i know, shocker. teh s13 doesnt have perfect 50/50 weight distribution, not that it makes a huge difference though, it helps to relocate ur batter to the rear to bias a little more weight to the back. dont mount it to far back thoguh or u'll get an unwanted pendulum affect. also when stitch welding the chassis, make sure to stitch weld and not seam weld. u want to some space between teh welds so the chassis has some flew or else the welds will brake. whenever u get a new car, check for rust and any maintenance related issues. theres no sense in have a massive turbo if ur factory brakes cant stop u soon enough. after any rust is repaired and basic maintenance is performed, focus on braking a suspension first. if u dont wanna shell out too much money go w/ the z32 brake upgrade http://importnut.net/300zxbrakeswap.htmor the q45 brake upgradehttp://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=291886as far as suspension goes i recommend replacing teh bushings w/ the energy suspension bushing set since they are most likely old and brittle w/ age. coilovers are a big help (which i see u already have) but make sure u have proper camber correction for them. if ur serious about drifting, a cage woudl help a lot, may as well weld one in while ur stitch welding the chassis. other common suspension parts are the strut bars and sway bars which im sure ur familiar with. there are also ladder bars and trunk bars made. also, if an ebay c pillar bar helps out a good bit and is only $30.while doing the brake upgrade u might decide to upgrade to 5 lug, either way, good tires are also essential in helping to control a drift, do some research and find out what wheel/tire combo woudl best suit ur needs and budget.as far as teh drivetrain goes, u already have an lsd, but if the cars going to be seeing a lot of track time a heavier clutch, and possibly light weight flywheel will save u a headache in the long run, also make sure the transmission is functioning properly w/ no grinding. a short shifter might increase the driving experience as well but thats personal preference. for drifting u dont need a lot of power, so engine mods arent as important as some other aspects of the car. most people at leas have basic boltons such as a downpipe, catback exhaust, intercooler, after market blow off valve, pulleys and other minor upgrades. it is important to monitor ur engine though, so a good set of gauges, a boost controller and rev limiter help. before going w/ any major engine upgrades its important to upgrade the fuel system w/ bigger injectors, fuel pump, fuel filter and fuel pressure regulator. also tuning is keep i allowing ur engine to run at its optimum potential. one very important are that is sometimes overlooked is cooling. a car that spends a lot of time getting trashed on the track will run pretty warm, and before ur engine overheats and grenades itself is ideal to upgrade the cooling system. going w/ a larger and better flowing radiator is an obvious upgrade to cooling but running electric fans and a fan controller can also have a benefit. even after u do the initial maintenance do neglect it form then on out. for instance, even if u have teh best cooling system in the world, letting the coolant get really dirty and low can cause overheating and other related issues. keep an eye on everything, especially fluids, to prevent and type of failure or problems. along the lines of cooling its also very important to let teh engine cool down as well after a hard run. either let the vehicle idle for a minute or so, or get a turbo timer for it. a turbo timer will keep the vehicle running at idle for a preset amount of time. this allows everything to cool down properly and will extend the life of ur turbo, if u have any more questions search around, but if u cant find the answers ur looking for dont be afraid to ask

[Uberck]

yo bro bring yo whip up to mah shop i'll throw you on mah dyno and den i bring my boi to tune dat bish he a 240 specialis

[mmm kouki]

good luck with your project

[idahotuner]

WC i think that is the largest most hepful post you have ever made for you

[White Comet]

WC i think that is the largest most hepful post you have ever made for you

why thank you, i was really in the mood to spoon feed answers i guess, plus this will help shut everybody up that says my posts are useless

[idahotuner]

so being a drifter there is no need for a frnt diffuser is there.

i want to figure out how ot make one or get one for my car.

[White Comet]

its not so much that there isnt a need as much as it wont make a difference, most dedicated drift cars are kinda flashy to appease the fans, so aero such as diffusers is the norm

[idahotuner]

what i mean is soemthing that goes under the bumper all the way back to under the radiator and such and kinda holds the nose all together. and makes air just flow underneath.

[adrianfromthecastle]

I'm moving this thread to the drifting forum. If the OP is serious about a drift project, that forum would be a good place to start. These guys know their stuff...

and guys... he's asking for advice...

Drifting is just a waste of tires. Just build a fast daily driver.

c'mon dude..... totally subjective. I could easily say "Driving fast is a waste of gas"

[White Comet]

what i mean is soemthing that goes under the bumper all the way back to under the radiator and such and kinda holds the nose all together. and makes air just flow underneath.

yeah but its not a plane, the air flow under the car wont really change much. its not needed unless ur getting it for looks

and guys... he's asking for advice...

lol i gave all the advice i could think of in the morning

c'mon dude..... totally subjective. I could easily say "Driving fast is a waste of gas"

true, u could make a similar argument for any type of motorsport, and if thats the case get out of car related stuff right now

[Duce40sx]

Just don't buy another 240, you're the reason why my insurance is so high.

Well, my insurance is nice and low. $450 =)

Woot Woot. I am thinking about gettign a hatch now, then my life would be complete.

I could have picked up an S12 200sx Coupe for $550 with a good engine, but got beatten to the punch.

Haters will hate, ballers still be Ballin'!

[WideBody240]

Thank you for the advice WC. I thought about relocating my battery to the trunk before for the weight issue and to help clean up the engine bay because I love a drift car that also looks good inside and out. But how far is to far back to mount it? I do know the difference between stitch and seam welding although does it really matter if I weld every seam up or just a few? As far as rust that is the only thing I hate about these cars is they all seem to just attract it LoL. My first 240 was covered in it and never realized it until I ripped it apart, just to excited to finally get one LoL. As far as motor went I was just going with a simple turbo kit for it later on but now right now. The braking will not but something to save money with, and I thought about the energy suspension bushing set too but really didn't know the quality of the product over others. You said check the Camber what about the Toe? Should it be positive? negative? or zero? I do want a rollcage in the car but I just need to find the drift cage design required to compete. Never thought about a heavier clutch with lightweight flywheel, thanks. But thank you so much for all of your advice and help. I just can't wait to find a new 240 and start this project, cause everyday I sit and look at my old one I miss it so much lol. Thanks to everyone who is giving there advice.

[White Comet]

no prob, somewhere midway back is the best for battery relocation, mine i just behind the passenger seat (back seat removed) and its doing fine. as far as stitch welding vs. seam welding, it helps to weld up any of the seams but the difference is stitch welding is leaving space in between short weld whereas seam welding is one continuous weld along the seams. you dont want seam welding since that leaves no room for chassis flex and will cause some welds to brake. energy suspension is a great brand and the master bushing set makes a huge difference.

[Drifter S]

glad WC stepped in and we decided to talk about this guys project again..lol. Im with him and slappy solely on taking a car to its limit before the next step. u can go along way on a bone stock 240 in drifting.. most people dont think so so they throw parts at it till it rivals a d1 car and when u step back they are only mediocre drivers relying on the car. the setup u have has gotten a few friends of my Nopi drift and Formula D licensing. some didnt even have coilovers. i know one guy who got it on nex coilovers a welded diff and a stock ka. so parts isnt the way to get better. not saying u havent been drifting or learning but so often its the case these days. so i say get in a lot of practice.. LEGAL PRACTICE-events are everywhere these days. from there not only will your drifting improve ull also know what u want from the car and where to improve it and how to make it do what u want.. so when u do mod it u get the most use of the new parts. from there u can build a car setup to your needs.

anyway i think one of the most overlooked things when people build a drift car is trying to make it reliable..i mean think about it the best setup 240 in the world is useless if it breaks after 5 runs? the cooling issue is a big one WC touched on it.. that should be well addressed.. at an event here in sptbg.. half the cars out there were sr240s and all of them were having radiators and intercoolers sprayed by someone in the staging lanes to cool them off. while i was in the lane with my stock 240 with the ac on..lol..and my built ae86 not going over halfway on the needle.

once u got that sorted and possibly before.. 240s are kinda old.. the suspension stuff has some use on it..not talking springs and struts and bushings.. im talking stuff that holds your wheels on..lol.. toe rods, tie rods, control arms,basically everything on the front and rear suspension.. that stuff isnt built to handlw what we do with the cars anyway.. but upgrading to nicer stuff like the wicked parts or the more expensive kazama stuff and the like.. also gives u the ability to tune alignment *when u are at a level u can realize what changing the settings will do to the car and how it will respond*. wheel bearings should be checked and addresed too.

from there the structural integrity of the car is a good one to check.. seam welding comes in here.. u can also add the expanding foam in the frame rails to stiffen it a bit too and give the chassis less flex. strut bars come in here as well as sways.. be advised though that a car that is too stiff will feel dead.. u wont have the feel of the weight transfer.*THE KEY PART OF DRIFTING IS TRANSFERING AND PLACING WEIGHT WHERE U NEED IT WHEN U NEED IT*

for further reliabilty u may want to keep the engine in top shape as well as the rest of the drive train.. before events i would change all the fluids in the diff,transmission and engine.. as well as changes between when needed.. it may seem as overkill.. but for the abuse we put the car through..why not put some fresh lube in there to cut down on the wear and tear? a lot of people build an engien to make more power.. most do actually.. but i would more build the engine with the capability of more power and built to hold and make more power and detune it a bit to increase longevity.. thats a key trade off in engine building.. for the most part the more power u make the shorter the life span. like i said a 500hp drift monster is useless to its driver if he has to sit out every other event or so.

hope this touches on a few things u may wanna look at if not disreguard me all together..lol. gl with the build and keep us posted.

[White Comet]

i totally agree, practice is the only way to get better. the car or the parts on it wont make u better, but it does help to have certain modifications for reliability and suspension as apposed to power

[idahotuner]

not wanting to beat my car apart is exactly why i am building it to be a street machine and occasional drag car

[WideBody240]

OK WC one second you say Stitch is where u leave gaps for flex? I believe you are talkin about skip welds? stitch welds is kinda like stitching a piece of cloth together. you pull the trigger created a weld bead stop let cool and then repeat to slightly overlap the previous bead at least that is has i was taught years ago and i have welded for almost 6 years now. but as far as the rest i understand everything you all are saying and i have been practicing legally lol, but not since my car got totaled. i dont plan to do anything motor wise for a while until i get my driving under control and all. i went and got these parts when i first started only cause everyone said it was necessary. the only thing i plan on right now is just the rollcage and welding the seams. cause i am currenting in an automotive trade school and have unlimited use of there welding equipment and supplies for only $50 dollars so that is why i wanted to go ahead and do this now while i have this opportunity. the rest is for the future. but thank you everyone for your help and i hope to have another 240 after the new year and start this build, look for a thread soon. thanks againg.

[WideBody240]

what is the best wheel/tire combo u all recommend for drifting? i mean i have a set of "show" wheels just to make the car look good while i daily drove it. but those aren't the best for drifting lol. so i was wondering is there any other wheels besides steelies u all suggest? i know 15's but any brands? i read ssr are good but i aint sure. thanks