BOSE HEADPHONES $40 ends in 10 hours!!!!!!!!

[AppleBonker]

I think i wrote my sentence wrong...

It's all good. I reread my post and I don't think it came across right either. I knew what you meant and I was just busting balls.

The BOSE/Monster comparison is right on though....$200 for a 6ft HDMI cable? Seriously?

Yeah, when I bought my receiver I didn't do it with enough forward thinking to have HDMI cables ordered. Since I am impatient, I knew I had to bite the bullet and buy a cable from the store. The dude at tweeter tried to explain the benefits of going with a $200 HDMI cable. He actually told me he heard the difference between it and a cheaper cable. If I had not been so excited to get my gear connected, I would've asked he prove it to me in a double blind test. Actually, it was probably more that I knew what the results of said test would be before running it that I didn't want to wait around to see what would happen.

Anyway, HDMI cables are HDMI cables. Digital signals don't benefit from gold contacts or any of that shiz.

Best idea I've ever seen (it was actually implemented): gold plated contacts on an optical cable. Yup. It has been done.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

I could see if you were gonna be using it on a boat (corrosion resistant)... but other than that, no.

[PoorManQ45]

I could see if you were gonna be using it on a boat (corrosion resistant)... but other than that, no.

Indeed, it is very funny how people talk about corrosion resistance.

Most people don't realize that Copper has this really awesome property. The oxidation(people call it corrosion?) that occurs on copper maintains electrical conductivity! This does not happen with Silver or Gold when they oxidize.

When pure copper wires/plugs there is no need to unplug and replug your equipment to keep a good connection. Simply leave it plugged it!

@$200 HDMI cables: LOLLERSKATES! I used to work for Sound Advice, a division of Tweeter. We went through two straight weeks of AudioQuest training. The trainer kept trying to compare their cables to lamp cord. He wasn't doing anything blind. He would say what you should expect to change and when he is switching cables. I just laughed and argued with him all the time and explained the physics of why he is retarded.

[Empty V]

Supposedly gold plated connectors allow for better contact which in turn will grant more bandwidth but I think most of that is a gimmick. Now when it comes to HDMI cables it's a different story. All 6ft/3m HDMI cables are the same but once you get to a certain length, which is usually around 15-20ft, then the quality of the cable makes a difference. The higher quality cable (if it actually is and not just marked up) will have more bandwidth and allow the signal to be transmitted farther. I've actually got 50ft HDMI cables that are only 1 way/direction which have active equalization and use the voltage over the connection to power this EQ/DA. Without this it would be impossible to drive the signal that far. I get that cable for $45. With HDMI/DVI-D being a completely digital signal it's either it works or it doesn't. Buying a more expensive cable of the same length will not improve the signal quality one bit(no pun intended). Now with analog and power cables that's a completely different story.

There was a company called Tera Labs who makes ultra high end cables which a lot of musicians bought from, including myself. They had $250 power cables that people use to power their amps. I A/B'd one with a regular cable and the difference was remarkable BUT this would only be applicable in a studio environment. They also made video and audio cable that were pretty phenomenal.

[PoorManQ45]

The "quality" of the cable does not make a difference.

It is as simple as electrical resistance. The longer the length the larger the wires need to be. The lower the AWG the large the conductors are and therefore the lower the resistance.

Gold is not a good conductor. Copper's conductivity is 58.0 × 10^6. Gold's is 45.2 × 10^6.

[PoorManQ45]

There was a company called Tera Labs who makes ultra high end cables which a lot of musicians bought from, including myself. They had $250 power cables that people use to power their amps. I A/B'd one with a regular cable and the difference was remarkable BUT this would only be applicable in a studio environment. They also made video and audio cable that were pretty phenomenal.

Nope, no difference. If the same quality copper and gauge was used they'd sound the same at a given distance. The only way to properly test is with a double blind. You can not see the cables or know which one is currently being used. The same applies for the person administering the test.

XLR cables are affected even less by changes due to the constant ground.

[dasoupdude]

wooo! bose suspension

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSi6J-QK1lw

Oh, if only I had the money...

$1,700?!?!?!

[Empty V]

The "quality" of the cable does not make a difference.

It is as simple as electrical resistance. The longer the length the larger the wires need to be. The lower the AWG the large the conductors are and therefore the lower the resistance.

Gold is not a good conductor. Copper's conductivity is 58.0 × 10^6. Gold's is 45.2 × 10^6.

Quality being a bigger better cable, but thanks for the correction and the education.

Nope, no difference. If the same quality copper and gauge was used they'd sound the same at a given distance. The only way to properly test is with a double blind. You can not see the cables or know which one is currently being used. The same applies for the person administering the test.

XLR cables are affected even less by changes due to the constant ground.

Actually there's a massive difference. If you knew about what cables I'm talking about then you'd know, since your talking out of your a** you don't. It has to do with how the shield is wound and at what speed frequencies are transmitted due to the shape of the winding. But thanks for your input. The same principal as Sku Free.

[PoorManQ45]

Actually there's a massive difference. If you knew about what cables I'm talking about then you'd know, since your talking out of your a** you don't. It has to do with how the shield is wound and at what speed frequencies are transmitted due to the shape of the winding. But thanks for your input. The same principal as Sku Free.

I didn't really want to deal with this after my nap, but I guess I will...

The power cables that you are talking about connect your piece of equipment to the wall. Typically a 6ft span.

Depending on the size of your house/office the main run from the panel could be in excess of 100ft. This is typically standard Romex 14/2 or 12/2. There is no shielding on this run. Don't even get me started on the distance from the mains to your building....

So you are replacing a 6ft section out possibly a couple miles of wiring.

Open up your piece of equipment and look at the connections that are soldered to the power plug. You will find that it is probably an unshielded low strand piece of wire that splits with one leg going to the circuit board and the other to the mains on the transformer(on an amp).

Feel free to enlighten me on anything you'd like.

@other people: Here's a link to their brochure. http://www.taralabs.com/images/stories/ ... -Cords.pdf

Here's the company that we carried at Sound Advice. http://www.audioquest.com/ . Notice the similarities...

[Empty V]

I didn't really want to deal with this after my nap, but I guess I will...

The power cables that you are talking about connect your piece of equipment to the wall. Typically a 6ft span.

Depending on the size of your house/office the main run from the panel could be in excess of 100ft. This is typically standard Romex 14/2 or 12/2. There is no shielding on this run. Don't even get me started on the distance from the mains to your building....

So you are replacing a 6ft section out possibly a couple miles of wiring.

Open up your piece of equipment and look at the connections that are soldered to the power plug. You will find that it is probably an unshielded low strand piece of wire that splits with one leg going to the circuit board and the other to the mains on the transformer(on an amp).

Feel free to enlighten me on anything you'd like.

@other people: Here's a link to their brochure. http://www.taralabs.com/images/stories/ ... -Cords.pdf

Here's the company that we carried at Sound Advice. http://www.audioquest.com/ . Notice the similarities...

Sorry to disrupt your mood after your nap, I'm not really sure how that's relevant though. Since you were there, lent your expert ear, and know the equipment I used when I tested the tera labs gear, you're right and I'm wrong. Thank you for clearing that up. Where would we be if we didn't have people like you going around correcting everyone, incorrectly?

[PoorManQ45]

Sorry to disrupt your mood after your nap, I'm not really sure how that's relevant though. Since you were there, lent your expert ear, and know the equipment I used when I tested the tera labs gear, you're right and I'm wrong. Thank you for clearing that up. Where would we be if we didn't have people like you going around correcting everyone, incorrectly?

Please provide information about the test procedure.

[Empty V]

Please provide information about the test procedure.

No.

[PoorManQ45]

Please provide information about the test procedure.

No.

You mentioned expert ears. I want to clarify that I do not claim to have golden ears.

I require cold hard facts.

In a double blind test of a high end brand using high end wiring vs a Behringer A500 with lamp cord the ~12 audiophiles could not reliably identify the gear in use.

[Empty V]

I require cold hard facts.

I don't give a s*** what you require. Look I'm sure you're a nice kid but you seem like a little bit of a douche. I'd rather not waste my time on someone who will try their hardest to prove a stranger wrong. Thank you and goodnight!

[PoorManQ45]

I require cold hard facts.

I don't give a s*** what you require. Look I'm sure you're a nice kid but you seem like a little bit of a douche. I'd rather not waste my time on someone who will try their hardest to prove a stranger wrong. Thank you and goodnight!

I'm just asking for you to explain a little bit of what you heard, and how the Tera Labs cables caused it.

The reason I ask is that I have demoed Audioquest cables compared to lamp cord and was not able to tell the difference.

The equipment used was Sonus Faber attached to Krell equipment.

[Space Monkey]

Bose suspension:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSi6J-QK1lw

Looks cool. Anyone know anything about them though?

[Jesda]

EmptyV vs PMQ. Which annoying self-righteous know-it-all will win?

[Jesda]

Bose suspension:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSi6J-QK1lw

Looks cool. Anyone know anything about them though?

I think the issue is that its too expensive to implement, and Delphi's Magneride follows a similar principle at a much lower cost.

[Dattebayo]

Bose suspension:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSi6J-QK1lw

Looks cool. Anyone know anything about them though?

That's like 15 years old almost, right?

[dasoupdude]

Yeah, that thing is ancient

[AZ89two4Tsx]

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Too good to be true I guess. Oh well.

Anybody have any good suggestions for headphones around that price? I'm not brand biased or anything. I also want them to be somewhat noise canceling so they're good for plane rides.

[Dattebayo]

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[Looneybomber]

They had $250 power cables that people use to power their amps. I A/B'd one with a regular cable and the difference was remarkable.

Was this before or after lifting the cable up off the ground?


If an amp is so poorly made that a slight change upstream (switching from one power cable to the next) actually causes an audible difference, then that amp is guaranteed to be junk and have radically different sound in different houses across the US. Think about it, if changing a 6ft section of cable makes a difference, then in NY where someone may be using that amp in a 50y/o condo with old wiring, that amp will sound like butt.

All good amps condition the power. That's one of the functions of power supplies.

I'm sure the amp used performs very well, and thus doesn't get sent back to the manufacture when used in a new house or old condo. Consequently, since it does perform well, no real audible difference will be heard assuming the factory cable wasn't 30awg and causing voltage limitations. Any differences heard are likely due to a placebo resulting from the non-instantaneous switch when listening. Any delay of over 5 seconds causes us to forget nuances, which are the very things we're listening for, since differences, if any, will be subtle.

[dre1507]

the best headphones are the ones that don't cancel noise. i wanna know when the people around me are getting robbed early enough to make a safe getaway.

[PoorManQ45]

EmptyV vs PMQ. Which annoying self-righteous know-it-all will win?

No doubt, I'll win, and Looney will back me

[Jesda]

EmptyV vs PMQ. Which annoying self-righteous know-it-all will win?

No doubt, I'll win, and Looney will back me

LOL

[PoorManQ45]

LOL

Always glad to give our foreign overlords a good laugh!

[AZ89two4Tsx]

I like how a simple thread about headphones got jacked and turned into a thread about HDMI cables and how they're more efficient if you raise them off the ground with little stands.

Queers!!!!!!!

[Jesda]

I only buy organic cables.

[marlin29311]

I personally move information from my source to my tv/speakers with my hands. Sure, there's a break in action, but the end result is fantastic.

And midget...go on ebay and search for Shure E2c's...you should be able to get them around 50-60 bucks.