Black Injen Intake Installed w/one minor problem

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generic808 wrote:I guess some people ask the same questions over and over without reading the actual thread. Oh well....
No dude. The reason I keep on asking if he bought it for a 2008 coupe or a 2007 sedan is because I kept reading in other threads that they bought an intake for a 2007 and put it into their coupes because the engine is the same and it fits or some mess like that. I was just trying to get to the final answer if it was pruchased for a 2007 or a 2008 coupe.

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Its made for both....


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SHIFT_COUPE wrote:Its made for both....
so guys whats gona happened if i'll stick it in 08 2.5?

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MaksimSF wrote:
so guys whats gona happened if i'll stick it in 08 2.5?
Its not going to fit

They make a different one for the 2.5, this one is for a 3.5.

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SHIFT_COUPE wrote:
Its not going to fit

They make a different one for the 2.5, this one is for a 3.5.
link plz if possible

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MaksimSF wrote:
link plz if possible
INJEN for 2.5: http://www.stillen.com/product...LTIMA

2.5 motorBlack: INJSP1974BLKPolished: INJSP1974P

3.5 motorBlack: INJSP1977BLKPolished: INJSP1977P

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i just ordered my injen intake from hpautoworks for $234.00

http://hpautoworks.com/index.p...=3176

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Does this cut down dramatically on fuel economy? I want the more throaty sound, but not at the price of -5 mpg as I have to drive 100 miles roundtrip each day.

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Intakes will usually help fuel economy IF you drive normally. Most people will start driving more aggressively with the addition of an intake because it sounds much better.

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SHIFT_COUPE wrote:Its made for both....
Thanks a lot dude. I have to get me one.

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generic808 wrote:Intakes will usually help fuel economy IF you drive normally. Most people will start driving more aggressively with the addition of an intake because it sounds much better.
Thanks....I'm gettin' me one of these bad boys.

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generic808 wrote:Intakes will usually help fuel economy IF you drive normally. Most people will start driving more aggressively with the addition of an intake because it sounds much better.
OK, couple of quickies;

1. Injen or Fujita, which one is better?

2. How often do you have to replace the end filter?

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seekinsp wrote:
OK, couple of quickies;

1. Injen or Fujita, which one is better?

2. How often do you have to replace the end filter?

Cheers!
Both brands essentially do the same thing. The Injen does include a heatshield which tipped the scale for me because the Fujita does not.

The filter can be reused and cleaned with a cleaning kit.

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Cool, thanks man! I just ordered the Injen and I'm looking forward to the install.

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All,

Just received and installed mine. First start scared the crap out of me ...... Turns out that I didn't seat the Air Flow Meter wire completely .... result - VDC, SLIP and Engine Maintenance lights all come on. Once seated, the VDC and SLIP lights went off, Engine Service still on. Any ideas on how to reset it?

On the note of how it behaves ..... First, moment one, throttle response is noticeably better, even though the car hasn't had too much time to adjust. Second, it sounds wicked. After reading the forum on sound and ranges, I'd have to say it sounds really nice at 2-3k, but at 5k and up it just sounds mean.

Drop a line if you have any ideas on the light.

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generic808 wrote:I did notice a better throttle response and the RPM's seemed to jump much quicker. A short ram intake will usually give a 5-7HP boost. I'd say that's about right.
I keep repeating myself here Importroller has a Fujita prototype WAI on his 07 3.5 and according to his dyno test he went from 233whp to 245.6 whp. So unless Injen messed something up bigtime you're getting 12whp not a measly 5-7! Of course this was from a 6-speed, not sure what the CVT is gonna get.

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i dont know of any intake that will give you 12 whp. Thats an outrageous number for a WAI. Granted i have the injen intake with the borla exhaust and i know i didnt get 12 whp. Im imagining 3-7 whp depending on mods.

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Manufacturer claims and real world results are two very different things. It's one thing to get 12 WHP on a dyno in a controlled environment, but you're NOT going to see that in the real world. Like I've said earlier in this thread, a short-ram will realistically give you maybe 5-7 HP. The only "bolt-on" mod I can see giving you that much power is a header. Even the best exhaust out there will not give you 12 at the wheels.

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So I received the Injen and installed it last night (couldn't wait for daylight). Installed the whole thing in 45 mins, but ended up messing with the end filter and heat shield assembly for a couple of hours....blasted shield kept slipping off even when it was syched as tight as possible (without breaking the clip). Anyhow, finally I got it seated in somewhat of a comfortable position. Interestingly enough on the A/C 2.5, the intake to filter seems longer than the initial pics posted in this thread (I believe that this was for a 3.5). So my intake is in there pretty damn tight and butts up against the battery compartment and a wiring harness. Any concerns here? They sent me the right part for the 2.5 (SP1974P) so I am assuming that the fit is expected to be tight?

All in all I am pretty happy with the resulting sound and boost in throttle response. My only outstanding concern is that I get what I can only describe as a 'grumble' and vibration on the accelerator from stationary to about 2K RPM. Has anybody else experienced this? I am wondering if I just need to wait for the intake to bed in before this goes away. Could also be that the heat shield is causing some kind of vibration due to the tight fit.

Any comments would be appreciated. Cheers!

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seekinsp wrote:So I received the Injen and installed it last night (couldn't wait for daylight). Installed the whole thing in 45 mins, but ended up messing with the end filter and heat shield assembly for a couple of hours....blasted shield kept slipping off even when it was syched as tight as possible (without breaking the clip). Anyhow, finally I got it seated in somewhat of a comfortable position. Interestingly enough on the A/C 2.5, the intake to filter seems longer than the initial pics posted in this thread (I believe that this was for a 3.5). So my intake is in there pretty damn tight and butts up against the battery compartment and a wiring harness. Any concerns here? They sent me the right part for the 2.5 (SP1974P) so I am assuming that the fit is expected to be tight?

All in all I am pretty happy with the resulting sound and boost in throttle response. My only outstanding concern is that I get what I can only describe as a 'grumble' and vibration on the accelerator from stationary to about 2K RPM. Has anybody else experienced this? I am wondering if I just need to wait for the intake to bed in before this goes away. Could also be that the heat shield is causing some kind of vibration due to the tight fit.

Any comments would be appreciated. Cheers!
i had the same problem with my fujita intake. but i called up fujita and they said it should not be making any contact whatsoever. anyways, what youre going to want to do is loosen the clamps on the throttle body and the vibration mount and try to push the filter and intake downwards just enough to where it is not creating pressure against the battery or resting too much on the wiring. i was experiencing the same vibration around 1200rpms but after readjusting the intake the sound and vibration is gone. you will notice how much cleaner the intake sounds after the vibrations are cleared away. good luck.

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I have the INJEN on a 3.5 so I couldn't tell you about your problem. But, have you tried pushing the throttle body hose as far as it can go onto the throttle body. I'm thinking you may be able to get a quarter-inch or so if it's not all the way in. Same with the filter head, is it pushed all the way down? Just a thought.

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actually u may want to pull the intake a little bit out of the throttle body to create some space between the filter and the part of the battery it is making contact with.

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heysteve wrote:
i had the same problem with my fujita intake. but i called up fujita and they said it should not be making any contact whatsoever. anyways, what youre going to want to do is loosen the clamps on the throttle body and the vibration mount and try to push the filter and intake downwards just enough to where it is not creating pressure against the battery or resting too much on the wiring. i was experiencing the same vibration around 1200rpms but after readjusting the intake the sound and vibration is gone. you will notice how much cleaner the intake sounds after the vibrations are cleared away. good luck.
Thanks guys. I am going to try and adjust this today. Also, I'll try to post some pics as I don't believe any have been posted for the 2.5 yet and it is definately a tighter fit than the 3.5 (due to a seemingly longer intake). Stabilization arm is in a different position too.

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i put my injen intake on thursday, and i'm having problems with clearance, the heat shield seems to bump the upper control arm bolt, it doesn't make it rattle, i would just like it free from everything, the only thing that works it moving the air filter down some, but i want the filter to fit flush with the intake. like i said its not a problem.

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seekinsp wrote:
Thanks guys. I am going to try and adjust this today. Also, I'll try to post some pics as I don't believe any have been posted for the 2.5 yet and it is definately a tighter fit than the 3.5 (due to a seemingly longer intake). Stabilization arm is in a different position too.
OK, finally got her adjusted. I ended up sliding the filter/shield assembly all the way up the intake arm as far as it would go. I now have about 1" clearance around the heat shield. I have taken some pics and will post them once I have figured out how to.

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Even though I have the 3.5, I knew that would help. I had that same problem with an old car and I just jammed it as far as possible and it cleared. Good to hear that everything is good.

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Hey great add to your car. I know the feeling of installing your own parts onto your car and know that you didnt pay money to do something as simple as a intake. Was wondering if the short ram is working well for you because i heard short rams are "meant" for turboed cars. I know they work for n/a cars but yea was wondering if you get the same performance as a cold air. Just added hyper white(look real blue) conversion kit to my car and just finished spray painting my 07 Altima 2.5s rims gun metal. I have a silver car. Keep me posted on your cars performance.

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johnnner wrote:Hey great add to your car. I know the feeling of installing your own parts onto your car and know that you didnt pay money to do something as simple as a intake. Was wondering if the short ram is working well for you because i heard short rams are "meant" for turboed cars. I know they work for n/a cars but yea was wondering if you get the same performance as a cold air. Just added hyper white(look real blue) conversion kit to my car and just finished spray painting my 07 Altima 2.5s rims gun metal. I have a silver car. Keep me posted on your cars performance.
A short-ram isn't only intended for turbo applications. Any increase in air volume whether it be cold, warm, or hot will have its benefits. The engine bay is so crammed that a CAI won't fit. Well, at least not in the 3.5, but not too sure about the 2.5.

BTW hurry up and post your pics!


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generic808 wrote:Manufacturer claims and real world results are two very different things. It's one thing to get 12 WHP on a dyno in a controlled environment, but you're NOT going to see that in the real world. Like I've said earlier in this thread, a short-ram will realistically give you maybe 5-7 HP. The only "bolt-on" mod I can see giving you that much power is a header. Even the best exhaust out there will not give you 12 at the wheels.
That's pretty much BS. The gain from an intake will depend on two things- one, how good was the intake you replaced, and two, how much power is the engine making.The stock intake on the Altim is pretty restrictive, and the 3.5 makes substantial power, so the 10 or 12 hp gain that is shown by most dyno tests seems to be reasonable. Bigger gains than that have been shown on cars making more power, like Corvettes. And the gains show up on the track, too, so they are NOT just bench racing claims. Exhaust gains may not be as much, since you can't do anything about the cats. On the other hand, of you could replace the ENTIRE exhaust, including the headers and cats, a gain of 30 hp would not be out of reach.

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Ormand wrote:That's pretty much BS. The gain from an intake will depend on two things- one, how good was the intake you replaced, and two, how much power is the engine making.The stock intake on the Altim is pretty restrictive, and the 3.5 makes substantial power, so the 10 or 12 hp gain that is shown by most dyno tests seems to be reasonable. Bigger gains than that have been shown on cars making more power, like Corvettes. And the gains show up on the track, too, so they are NOT just bench racing claims. Exhaust gains may not be as much, since you can't do anything about the cats. On the other hand, of you could replace the ENTIRE exhaust, including the headers and cats, a gain of 30 hp would not be out of reach.
Most stock intakes are restictive so theres no surprise there. In this case its no different. I have both the Injen intake system and Borla Exhaust and i have minimal gains. From being a modifier over the years i have noticed that intakes and exhaust's together commonly only make 6-8 whp without a tune. That dyno chart that did that test also says that the 3.5SE is only putting down 200whp. Now do you really think that dyno is correct after its reading 200whp out of a 270 crank hp car? No car loses 70hp in the transmission that dyno is


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