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^ Hot Chick Speak Big Truth.

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CSLAVE wrote:Anyways this is how I celebrated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQZFwJIbkvU
Theres always gotta be that one guy that does something stupid like shoot fireworks at a crowd of people

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CSLAVE wrote:
AZhitman wrote:I was a little disappointed with the "I gave the order" nonsense.

The "order" was given in 2001. But, I suppose it's what politicians do.
I felt the same. I felt it took away from the speech and he emphasized "I". Anyways it got done but i give no credit to Obama.
You guys are ridiculous. I get it, you don't like Obama. But let me try this out.

I am now ordering the economy to get better!

There! Now, when it happens you can bet your a** I deserve the credit for it. I'm certain you would be giving Obama hell if he made the call and was wrong (or, more accurately, that the intelligence was wrong). So give him credit when he makes a ballsy call and is successful. I agree there are a plethora of other things that need to be tackled now, but would it kill you to say "nice job" on one thing I'd like to think we all can agree was done right?
AZhitman wrote:Anyway, good riddance to someone who never accomplished anything useful or productive - and that, my friends, is a fate worse than death.
Meh, he'll still be remembered. Which is more than most people can say.

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nissangirl74 wrote:I'm glad he's gone. Now can we PLEASE get back to the pressing issues at hand? We have a s*** economy to fix and a massive debt to rid ourselves of.
If only. We will be in Iran by 2013, and this whole cycle will continue.

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AppleBonker wrote:
You guys are ridiculous. I get it, you don't like Obama.

It's OK, some people won't like him no matter what he does. Unemployment could be .001% and everyone driving Bentlys and he'd still be the devil. I'm not a huge fan either but give credit where credit is due, he's Commander in Chief and the military takes their orders from him. I bet these same people would be the first to blame him if the mission was botched though. If it were W I bet no one would have questioned him even without proof.

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PapaSmurf2k3 wrote:You never know... there were a lot of members of Hitler's party that really didn't want to continue on with his ideas. Hell, lots of them tried to kill him. Not sure if that happened with Bin Laden, but I'm also not sure we'd hear about it if it did.
rc1honda wrote: No american soldiers were hurt, and only terrorists were killed. I bet those guys are some BAMF's to rule all BAMF's.
:yesnod
Ironic. Bin laden was declared dead 66 years to the day (5/1/45) that Hitler was declared dead. Another reason to celebrate May day.

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CSLAVE wrote:Use your brain a little bit. The WMD's were al qaeda themselves....
Anyways this is how I celebrated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQZFwJIbkvU
Fail.
What makes you better than these people?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k[/youtube]

I felt very uncomfortable with the whole ranting and raving. The feeling should of been "F*ck yeah! (high fives across the room) Now let's fix all the other BS."
AppleBonker wrote:You guys are ridiculous. I get it, you don't like Obama. But let me try this out.
I'm with you. I get it, he didn't storm the compound himself but all Osama did was fund 9/11. If that's the case, s*** WE killed Osama! :woot:
sbird1 wrote:The president gets the credit or blame for whatever comes their way...
Exactly. So he gets the acclaim for Osama now, but he will get the blame for everything else.
Either way unless he made it a special initiative to find him, the "green light" was all ready there.
nissangirl74 wrote:I'm glad he's gone. Now can we PLEASE get back to the pressing issues at hand? We have a s*** economy to fix and a massive debt to rid ourselves of.
Nailed it on the head.

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RCA wrote:
CSLAVE wrote:Use your brain a little bit. The WMD's were al qaeda themselves....
Anyways this is how I celebrated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQZFwJIbkvU
Fail.
What makes you better than these people?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrM0dAFsZ8k[/youtube]

Wasn't that Palestine cheering footage supposed to be from 1993?

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dasoupdude wrote:Wasn't that Palestine cheering footage supposed to be from 1993?
Yes. Different time, and, from what I recall (perhaps incorrectly), celebrating a wedding or something like that, but not sure of those details anymore.

Bottom line: that particular footage had nothing to do with 911. Indeed, what we all forget (because it was never widely publicized) was that the two European(?) reporters who deliberately sent out that false footage were fired from their jobs for the fraud they pulled.

Which, by the way, is why that footage was hardly shown much at all in at the time, or in later months ... the news media realized it was not accurate and pulled it pretty quickly.

Regardless of which, if anyone celebrated 911 anywhere in the world, they were morally and totally wrong to do so.

I am glad that Osama is no longer around, but celebrating his death is hardly the act of a civilized nation. :(

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szh wrote:I am glad that Osama is no longer around, but celebrating his death is hardly the act of a civilized nation. :(

Z
Precisely how I feel. While sometimes neccessary, all death is lamentable to me. I find all this celebrating deplorable.

But here's one thing I'm amused by: Barack was cracking jokes & having fun hosting the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner on Saturday night knowing full well that Osama bin Laden would be one dead muthaf**ka within 24 hours. Talk about a p0ker face. Cold blooded.:ohno:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2TCAG5W ... re=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mDfkVQY ... re=related[/youtube]

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simmode1 wrote:But here's one thing I'm amused by: Barack was cracking jokes & having fun hosting the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinner on Saturday night knowing full well that Osama bin Laden would be one dead muthaf**ka within 24 hours. Talk about a p0ker face. Cold blooded.:ohno:
I'm not convinced that it was a done deal then. We're getting so many conflicting stories, who knows when it happened and when POTUS had his "I gotchu now, muthaf*****!" moment.

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AZhitman wrote:I'm not convinced that it was a done deal then. We're getting so many conflicting stories, who knows when it happened and when POTUS had his "I gotchu now, muthaf*****!" moment.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nh48bDk1VM[/youtube]

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Loki wrote:
nissangirl74 wrote:I'm glad he's gone. Now can we PLEASE get back to the pressing issues at hand? We have a s*** economy to fix and a massive debt to rid ourselves of.
If only. We will be in North Korea by 2013, and this whole cycle will continue.
FTFY

how spooky would it be if the news stories and storyline in Homefront actually happened when they did in the game?

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Credit goes to the guys who have been fighting this war on the front line,credit goes to the guys who blew his fvcking brains out.No credit goes to obama,hes not on the front line,he didnt pull the trigger.he had no part in the actual killing of osama other than saying go here and kill him.Thats like saying "oh i took my car to the mechanic and he fixed it but i get the credit because i took it there." thats retarded.

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Oatmealman wrote:Credit goes to the guys who have been fighting this war on the front line,credit goes to the guys who blew his fvcking brains out.No credit goes to obama,hes not on the front line,he didnt pull the trigger.he had no part in the actual killing of osama other than saying go here and kill him.Thats like saying "oh i took my car to the mechanic and he fixed it but i get the credit because i took it there." thats retarded.
One Finger wrote:Yeah... we get it, Obama didn't shoot Bin Laden in the head himself. But then again, Bin Laden didn't fly the planes into the twin towers so either leadership counts, or it doesn't. Stop splitting hairs and party lines and just celebrate the fact that he's gone. :woot:
I gotta stop checking this thread. The fact everyone can't unite over this is too much.

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The real intel exposed! :chuckle:

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As far as credit is concerned, who'd get the blame if the op failed and the seals died? You can't have it both ways, guys. President Obama, as CiC, was responsible, even if he didn't put the bullet into OBL's brainpan.

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Oatmealman wrote:Credit goes to the guys who have been fighting this war on the front line,credit goes to the guys who blew his fvcking brains out.No credit goes to obama,hes not on the front line,he didnt pull the trigger.he had no part in the actual killing of osama other than saying go here and kill him.Thats like saying "oh i took my car to the mechanic and he fixed it but i get the credit because i took it there." thats retarded.
That analogy would make sense if you were the mechanics boss and you had him take it to a completely different shop in the middle of the night, break in, steal a car, and dump it in the ocean. The fact that THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES didn't squeeze the trigger does not mean he was sleeping through the whole thing. He had to make the hard decision, a decision that involved invading a sovereign nation and killing people in a private home, can you imagine what the backlash would be if Bin Laden wasn't there? Can you imagine what you would be saying if the US flew 2 attack helicopters into Pakistan and killed some random shut-in. You would say Obama is an idiot, he failed, its his failure. Thousands of people had a hand in this, including Obama, and they should all get credit. We are all relieved that psycho is dead, this should bring us together as a nation, not split us over who deserves credit.

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^ That.

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While I do agree that Obama played a part in what happened, what pisses me off are all the people I hear saying "Obama got him and Bush couldn't" and how the NY times tries to say Bush's handling of it was incompetent because they didn't get all the information in the beginning of this investigation. The trail that leads to the capture started under Bush's administration, whom located the courier, but could not at the time determine exact details about it. Two more years of investigating lead to the identity but not his location, then once all was determined, the Obama administration dropped the hammer. TBH, I'm impressed that Obama had the stones to give the order. Someone commented on his "lack of emotion" in the address. I don't believe that's what it was. I believe Obama was somber, and reflective. What we've seen out of Obama to date is the democratic agenda, and the party, the party, the party. This is one thing where Obama made the call, and acted as a President, not the leader of the Democratic party. I believe this event changed him, and I hope he continues this and does more for America, and less for the Democratic party.

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Excellently said.

The NY Times is staffed by a bunch of mouthbreathing cretins who moonlight as DNC campaign assistants. I'm not surprised.

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While you guys are bickering back and forth over whether Obama should get the credit or not the conspiracy theorist are bickering back and forth about whether he is really dead or in custody somewhere. Either way if he's dead then in my eyes the credit goes to brave Tier One operators that put rounds down range, if he's in custody in a hole somewhere being tortured for information then good for us, if the man they took out wasn't Bin Laden I wouldn't be surprised doppelgangers and body doubles have been used by far greater men in the past.

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I support the POTUS's decision to not release photos.

Here's the deal: For all those idiots crying "conspiracy", I doubt any of them could definitively determine if the guy was, in fact, OBL anyway. I mean, all they've seen is pictures, right? And don't those people say stupid things like "They all look the same to me" ? Those people are clueless.

So, releasing photos of an elderly Saudi with a couple holes in his melon isn't gonna change anyone's mind. I think we did it right, and I credit BHO and his team with making a smart (and sane) call on this one. Big props to the Navy Seal team and everyone else involved in the mission (including POTUS).

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AZhitman wrote:For all those idiots crying "conspiracy", I doubt any of them could definitively determine if the guy was, in fact, OBL anyway. I mean, all they've seen is pictures, right? And don't those people say stupid things like "They all look the same to me" ? Those people are clueless.
This. A photo isn't going to change any of that. Hell, no amount of photos/videos will. It's been long enough, I'm sure they're all doctored anyway. :rolleyes:

The beauty of conspiracy theories is that they can never be proven incorrect. The believers will just change pieces to make them fit the information available. On top of that, the beauty of this wonderful country we live in (most of us anyway) is that you can choose to believe any of those theories you like. No one is forcing you to do anything different.

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Releasing the picture will do more harm than good.

The people who think he is not dead because there are no pics will say the pics are photoshopped anyways.
The people who think he is dead will get nothing more from them.
The people who supported him will have graphic images to stir up emotional responses thus gaining support in their fight against the US.

Releasing the pics is pointless.

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The White House should release an MS Paint representation.

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What, like this one?

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I'm sure wikileaks will release any and all information related to this mission in a couple of weeks. Personally I think Tier One and the CIA should go after that guy next, but I digress.

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IBCoupe wrote:What, like this one?

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Brown Folk.

They all look the same.

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