Big Brakes? other than Z32 and Q's....searched

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Does anybody make bigger brakes (all-around) for a 4 lug S13 as far as aftermarket? I thought Brembo was making a kit, but it could be awhile and cost $3000. Any ideas? Thanks- Brandon


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could redrill the z32 brakes for 4-lug

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Other then Z32. If I did the fronts, I know I'd want to do the rears also. Even though it's not really needed.

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What kind of tires are you going to run in the front?

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uhh you know you can do z32 conversion in the back too if you want

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do a search for Q45 brakes. They are pretty much boltons if i remember correctly. They are two 42mm pistons compared to the s13/s14s single 52mm pistons. Im pretty sure those numbers are wrong, but they should be very close.

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chmercer wrote:uhh you know you can do z32 conversion in the back too if you want
Yeah I know you can do the Z32 in the back, but i don't want to have to change out the whole assembly in the back along with suspension, then having to go 5 lug, the e-brake really isn't a problem. Hence not Z32. I'm not sure what tires I'll run on the front, I just got the car and I need to decide this step early so I don't make wrong decision, i.e. brakes, suspension, rims. Any other ideas?

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5 lugs conversions are pretty common, it will open up a lot of rim choices for you since a lot of Nissan's use 5 lug patterns.

If you're trying to save money, have either Z rotors drilled 4 lug patter and use Q45 calipers or Z calipers.

Z calipers are bigger and 4 pistons, but you might also want to change the master cylinder from the Z32 to get better pedal feel.

Rears are not as important, you can just get a set of regular cross drilled rotors and not upgrade the calipers.

Do a search for brake setups, as a lot of ppl have done 5 lug conversions w/ the Z32 brake setup.

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Amazing. Not Z32, and not Q. I'm aware of what needs to be done for brakes, except the Q rears, but I don't even know what Q's look like, but that doesn't matter. Any other input is appriciated. Thanks.

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i thought AEM made a big brake kit for s13s and 4lug s14s, but im not too sure

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why would you want to pay like 2k+ for stupid brembos when you could just do z32 or q45, not sure why you pass over these options so fast.

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Its his money, let him do what he pleases.

Fab a Brembo gran turismo brake kit with 8 piston calipers and 13" ceramic carbon rotors.

It'll probably cost like $4000 but hey its better than Z32 and not Q and it'll quickly stop your monster 155HP 89 240sx.

Please be realistic, people here are trying to help if you're not planning to push major HP or track your car theres no need to spend $2-4k for brakes.

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Yup it's just 155hp :oface . There is a reason for this question, so I asked it, but I'm just finding ****head answers (s3).

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Suit yourself, you won't find any pre-made kits available for the S13's its either fab it up yourself if your capable or get whats available.

If nothings to your liking, then thats too bad fella.

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[s3] wrote:you won't find any pre-made kits available for the S13's...


Correction: Rotora has a big brake kit. http://www.next-gear.com/catal...d=565 4 piston calipers, 330x30mm x-drilled slotted rotors, and ceramic pads. All for $1780. Another option? FastBrakes. Their kit inlcudes include 12.2" rotors and 4-piston calipers. Their price is $1500, or add drilled rotos for $100, or add 6-piston calipers ( :cool: ) for $400. http://www.fastbrakes.com/prod...FBN08

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Nice links. Thanks.

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I was just going to mention that rotora makes some too:)

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Yup money well spent. Doesn't almost everyone spend more than their car is worth? Thought so.

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SHIEF wrote:Yup money well spent. Doesn't almost everyone spend more than their car is worth? Thought so.


Good luck with the build, show us what you come up with when the project is done.

I suggest a RB26 swap.

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Nah, already building a KAE. It's a rare motor that came with cars from the U.S. I wanted to be different, RB's are getting common.

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Although I didn't know RB26's were getting too common on S13/S14/S15. Which KAE motor are you talking about? I've not heard of one that's rare on US cars....since they all came with KA motors.
SHIEF wrote:Nah, already building a KAE. It's a rare motor that came with cars from the U.S. I wanted to be different, RB's are getting common.

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Arizona Z Car has some nice Wilwood-based brakes for the S13 240 and I've dropped a hint to him about making S14 rotor carriers.

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Do what this guy did on Fresh alloy if you want some serious braking....

mmm...porsche brakes :eek:

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[s3] wrote:Although I didn't know RB26's were getting too common on S13/S14/S15. Which KAE motor are you talking about? I've not heard of one that's rare on US cars....since they all came with KA motors.
i was thinking the same thing. The KAE came in the early frontiers and the 89-9o 24o's, and after that it was all DE for the trucks, 24o's and altimas, whats so rare about em? And trust me RBs arent THAT common, of course its a mattetr of opinion on what you call common. And besides, SRs and such are becoming common for a reason: potential, reliability, price, and availbility

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yeah z32 brakes man your not stopping 450 hp paint your rear rotors if you just want them to look pretty.

I had a question though maybe some of you could answer signal makes a front and rear hub replacement for the s13 240 for 5 lug. I was curious if the rims would be 5*114.3 after this?

Also would the z32 brake upgrade still work with the 5 lug conversion? The front and back conversion are roughly 500 each 500 for the front and 500 for the back. For the price its prretty good seeing as how these jsut go on no modificaiotn as from what I have read.

I just want 5 lug more rims fo dat arse.

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I got a set of Attain 5 lug front conversion for about $300 + shipping.

Rears you can get a set of S14/Z32 rear 5 lug hubs from any junkyard for like dirt cheap. They will fit in fine w/o modfications.Just yank old 4 lug hub, slap the s14/z32 hub in and thats it.

Yes you'll get 5*114.3 pattern, stock Z32 rims, S14/s15 rims, all or most Nissan rims will fit. Save yourself some $.
xxtrizz wrote:yeah z32 brakes man your not stopping 450 hp paint your rear rotors if you just want them to look pretty.

I had a question though maybe some of you could answer signal makes a front and rear hub replacement for the s13 240 for 5 lug. I was curious if the rims would be 5*114.3 after this?

Also would the z32 brake upgrade still work with the 5 lug conversion? The front and back conversion are roughly 500 each 500 for the front and 500 for the back. For the price its prretty good seeing as how these jsut go on no modificaiotn as from what I have read.

I just want 5 lug more rims fo dat arse.

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[s3] wrote:You're right, just wait a little bit and see what he can do to his rare KAE motor, or could be that he has no clue what he's talking about.
S3 obviously you can't take a joke. I know what KAE's came in, it's just that very few people use them, that was my point. RB's aren't that common, I know. It just seems that the KAE will be the rare motor. Don't worry S3 I'll let you know when I have something to talk about. That Wilwood kit looks nice though thanks for the link. Yeah I want the brakes to look good and perform well, that's all. I'm such a ricer for wanting that :oface .

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well i dont want to say he doesnt know what he's talking about, id like to hear him out a bit more though, he just seems to want to be different and path uncharted areas, and kudos to him for that. And yes, for whoever asked, the 5lug swap the rims would then be 5x 114.3 as almost all recent 5lug nissans were

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R32 Gtr brakes are nice. I have them on my car. The vents on the rotors are swirled so they are 125% more efficient at cooling the rotors. Plus they are larger than z32's. Just another way to be different ;)

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look dude, all im saying is that thoes super expensive brake kits will offer EXACTLY the same braking performance as z32 or q45 or hell even stock s13/14 brakes in like 98% of driving conditions. So unless you plan to extensivley track the car then yes you are a ricer in my book for paying 2-4k for a part just so your friends can think you are cool.

oh yea, and imho, people who do stuff "to be different" are idiots. if you want to be different so bad, then build a kit car, there are a million 240s driving around.


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