Big Brakes? other than Z32 and Q's....searched

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Actually I think they are pretty much correct, if your running the D1 get some rotoras if not then get a conversion from the z32.

Hey s3 where did you get your attain hubs from?


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Raretrick Auto, took a while since they were air dropped from japan.

beats having to source out all the S14/Z32 hub/spindle crap and redrilling shocks.
xxtrizz wrote:Actually I think they are pretty much correct, if your running the D1 get some rotoras if not then get a conversion from the z32.

Hey s3 where did you get your attain hubs from?

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Something else to think about:

I read somewhere that the Sumimoto calipers from a 3000GT could be modified to fit. Furthermore, I have my friend's TT Supra brakes in my trunk waiting to be powdercoated, and they've got a big, fat "Sumimoto" logo on 'em.

And maybe JDM WRX STi brakes would work too. All sumimoto calipers, so perhaps with some modification. Let's also not forget Wilwood calipers, one would simply need to fabricate a bracket.

But I'm quite happy with my Q brakes. They are massive in comparison to stock.

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chmercer wrote:look dude, all im saying is that thoes super expensive brake kits will offer EXACTLY the same braking performance as z32 or q45 or hell even stock s13/14 brakes in like 98% of driving conditions. So unless you plan to extensivley track the car then yes you are a ricer in my book for paying 2-4k for a part just so your friends can think you are cool.

oh yea, and imho, people who do stuff "to be different" are idiots. if you want to be different so bad, then build a kit car, there are a million 240s driving around.


I don't think I'm an idiot because I wanted to be different. I got my r32 brake conversion for $250 from signal auto. That's HALF of a $500 240sx ;)

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i dont think an r32 brake swap is dumb unless you payed way more than they were worth just so you could say you had r32 brakes, which you obviously didnt, 250$ is a good deal.

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All:

Stop the thread hijacking!Its late and I'm tired and I dont wanna follow this thread with a pooper scoop.

If you have answers to contribute do so.If not then dont.I dont want to have to lock the thread which would be unfair to the original starter.

Fred...:mad:

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PalmerWMD wrote:All:

Stop the thread hijacking!Its late and I'm tired and I dont wanna follow this thread with a pooper scoop.

If you have answers to contribute do so.If not then dont.I dont want to have to lock the thread which would be unfair to the original starter.

Fred...:mad:


THank you:oface

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well if you are worried enough to say that, then take your stock stuff to a machinist, find the pad size you like, (any nissan model that suits the size you like) and have them make some calipers that fit them; transfer the brake piston hardware to the new ones. It's expensive, but not difficult to scope out, if you dont want to buy struts that fit R32 or 33 brakes.

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I dont think this thread has been hijacked actually there is some good constructive feedback. Actually by everyone asking a multitude of queries it gives the original thread starter more to look at in brake upgrades. We didnt turn it into a suspension thread out of a brake thread.

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I've heard of 3000gt 30mm rotors and calipers (Bigger than z32), there's also turbo and gxl fc3s (rx7) 4 piston calipers and fd rx7 calipers. I'd like to get some of those new g35 brembo calipers and test them out as well...

On a side note, weren't all skyline calipers/rotors the same size as the z32's? With exception of the brembo equipped of course..

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and yes that last wilwood kit is quite a "bargain" for 795$ w/pads, ss lines, etc...

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Another sub-$1000 choice would be to go with PDM Racing's Z32 brake kit. Sure it might still be a Z32 kit, but with factory NEW n/a 300zx calipers, KVR x-drilled rotors (drilled to 4x114), stainless-steel brake lines, KVR carbon kevlar brake pads, and all the nuts bolts and other stuff. Everythings brand new, no junkyard stuff and it's priced at $950.

http://pdm-racing.com/products/brakesz32.html

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Thanks Fred, there were some hijackers earlier that were just ignorant people, bottom line. Yeah I agree that Wilwood kit is a steal, and it's probably what I'll go with in the future. Unless something better comes along.

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Endless and Project Mu has big brakes...they cost an arm and leg tho:(

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please tell me why you are needing big brakes so maybe i could suggest somthing to fit you better.

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chmercer wrote:please tell me why you are needing big brakes so maybe i could suggest somthing to fit you better.


if you're referring to me, I dont need a big brake kit "yet". If my car's is running between 320-340hp than I'll get a big brake kit. I'm just letting the guy know what other big brake kits are out there.

Im just "contributing" to this thread.

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well whoever needs the kit. i was railing on him a bit earlier but maybe i can help out more if i actually know what type of car the brakes are going on.

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It's a 89 240. Was the "railing" due to my low post count? Thinking I knew nothing, and I'm just your usual bench racer who talks alot but never does it? I see that enough around here, along with rice. I just wanted to see what else is available so I can set up my car, and not have to go back and re-do anything. But if you have a suggestion or know a good kit then I'll listen to you.

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SHIEF wrote:It's a 89 240. Was the "railing" due to my low post count? Thinking I knew nothing, and I'm just your usual bench racer who talks alot but never does it? I see that enough around here, along with rice. I just wanted to see what else is available so I can set up my car, and not have to go back and re-do anything. But if you have a suggestion or know a good kit then I'll listen to you.


http://gnakata.crosswinds.net/...1_03/

If you can make your car half as nice as his, you'll deserve praise and respect thru out the board.

His mod lists

http://gnakata.crosswinds.net/...s.htm

0% rice, 100% nice

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I got the front calipers for the 240sx for $50 and used old rotors off my 300zx that were too thin to go back on the Z but just fine for a low weight car like the 240sx.

As long as you get the calipers, you can get some brackets from various places to fit Mustang Cobra rotors on or GTR rotors.Youll need some decent sized wheels for those.

Im not positive, but I think the track model 350Z caliper/rotor system is the same as the R34 GTR system. So it may be possible to fit some of those on your 240sx. That wouldnt be cheap though.

If you got the money, go for these.http://www.splparts.com/Silvia/Brake/Kit.htm

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S3, that is almost exact to what I want with my car, except for the SR20 of course. I NEVER thought I'd ever put a body kit on my car, but after seeing that I think I will. Nice car.

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i was railing because you seemed to just totally blow off the z32 brakes. what do you want from the car? road race? autox? show? daily driver? etc. etc.

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SHIEF wrote:S3, that is almost exact to what I want with my car, except for the SR20 of course. I NEVER thought I'd ever put a body kit on my car, but after seeing that I think I will. Nice car.


From what I hear, Glenn spent around $10k for that setup, maybe more as he's not really done.

I really like what he did with his car.

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$10K for just breaks? If that's correct, I'd say they ripped him a new one...

Big red or Big black calipers run for 500-600 a pair on ebay(when you find them), and the rest should not be too much.

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Engine, car, brakes, turbo upgrade etc etc

10k brakes = joke

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If he got it for 10 k then he got a good deal the list looks like around 15000 to 20000 done on it. I could be wrong he could have gotten deals but all that stuff is gonna be around that price.

Im also including labor if he didnt do it himself.

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another option i saw in another thread are the wilwood dynalite (138$/caliper) which are 2.5lbs/ea and can be found here http://store.summitracing.com/...D5094

they say they'll fit any car, but I guess some fabrication is required.




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these are two piston calipers? the wilwoods i mean?

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nlzmo400r wrote:these are two piston calipers? the wilwoods i mean?


its 4 pistons...

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As has been asked a couple times, .... what do you want out of your car? What are you going to "use" these brakes for?

As many have said, the Z brakes (or similar) will sufice for daily driving, lite autoX needs, etc. But obviously you're not looking for something like that. ;)

The main thing to mention that is of concern when upgrading your brakes is brake fade! I mean Z brakes are nice, but damn they fade fast a s*** on a track!! So if you're going to be doing an occational track day and don't want to deal with that, a 2 piece rotor is the way to go.Best bang for your buck IMO are StopTech kits! :) http://www.stoptech.comWe've used them on track days beating the hell out of the brakes and they hold up great! A 'little' fade, then they hold over and over again.

Rotora's seem ok, but I've never seen them in action. Willwoods have had some problems with noise, and unreliablitiy in my experiences.

just my 2¢Sean


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