Bets on what my RWHP will be

[corn322]

w00t. can't wait to see the dyno charts. I'm still guessing high 180's, maybe 190whp.

sorry to hear about your dad.

[Dark-Hawk]

Damn I just read through this entire thing anxiously awaiting the numbers lol. Sorry to hear about your dad, amped to see the results!My guess is 183rwhp.

[veilside180sx]

167 rwhp 165 rwtq

[xTearsFallForeverx]

165 rwhp

[mallbor240SR]

187 rwhp

[irax]

seriously this is slightly what im doing... but im doing around 13:1 compression and ITB's.... whats the dyno???

[veilside180sx]

seriously this is slightly what im doing... but im doing around 13:1 compression and ITB's.... whats the dyno???

Which is exactly what I am doing...=) Should be done by the end of January....

Can we hurry up with the dyno I really want to see...haha.

[Ajax]

Resurgence in interest. Okay, here's the scoop. Car should be running by Friday. Then break in will ensue. After break in then dyno. I'm trying to get pics up here in the meantime, hopefully by the end of the week.

[PandaS14]

seriously this is slightly what im doing... but im doing around 13:1 compression and ITB's.... whats the dyno???

I'm calling BS. I'll believe 13:1 when I see it. You planning on running 116 all the time in your Daily Driver? I'm guessing not...

[Bigvinnie]

I'm calling BS. I'll believe 13:1 when I see it. You planning on running 116 all the time in your Daily Driver? I'm guessing not...

I would have to agree. No way with 13.1:1 or even in the CR of 12:1 for that matter. Guy's out here in Cali have a hard enough time trying to run compression in the high 11:1 CR's without getting knock and ping on your basic 91 Octane, hell that CR (11:1) doesn't even run good on 96. Shiat just blew up an L28 that was running too rich on 91 octane and it had a CR of 10:7, ( well didn't really blow it up just have this knock and ping that is sooo loud you wouldn't want to drive on the road).I have struggled trying to find a decent streetable compression for my KA. Finally came across the Super Techs (10.5:1) that were moderately priced, and speaking with a few smog techs, I'm still going to have to get it down to atleast 10:1 using thicker metal gaskets to make it streetable and smogable on 91Octane.

[veilside180sx]

The 13:1 in mine will be a strictly race car(race gas only). Don't care about DD stuff. Although I don't think that pessimism was geared towards me.

[Tulsa_S-13]

This thread was started in March..... where are the numbers?

[Bigvinnie]

Although I don't think that pessimism was geared towards me.

No it's geared towards people that start a B.S thread that they can't finish with results. Then continue the thread with remarks that 13.1:1 is streetable. There are those that know the B.S when they hear it from experience and those that make up the B.S thinking it is believeable to everyone else. It's the one thing that makes the forums a shiaty place to come too, and it ruins this thing called integrity........

Fact is 13.1:1 could be streetable but not here in the U.S on the pump gas that we have to offer.

[veilside180sx]

No it's geared towards people that start a B.S thread that they can't finish with results. Then continue the thread with remarks that 13.1:1 is streetable. There are those that know the B.S when they hear it from experience and those that make up the B.S thinking it is believeable to everyone else. It's the one thing that makes the forums a shiaty place to come too, and it ruins this thing called integrity........

Fact is 13.1:1 could be streetable but not here in the U.S on the pump gas that we have to offer.

Which I completely undestand and agree with. I'm not one of those people though.

[Ajax]

This thread was started in March..... where are the numbers?

I regret keeping this thread in suspense. I've had too many problems trying to keep the people working on this project focused on the task at hand. Trust me- no one is as frustrated as I am with the length of this project. At this point, I know that all the work has been completed, engine is in the car as of Thanksgiving (I've seen pictures of this- car is 400 miles away), and by this time, the car should be up and running ready for full break-in.That is the state of the car right now. When the car is ready and dynoed, I will post results.

[VinceSez]

FAIL!

[Aworkinprogress]

Add a one peice aluminum drive shaft to your list so you can get more power to your wheels, also lighter rear wheel and tire combo would help. may possibly see 190 rwhp at that. other wise expect rougly 35% of your power to be eatin up through that two peice. Worst designed drive shaft ever.

[Ajax]

That is actually on my agenda. I just don't have the extra $500 to spend. Then again as I look over how much I've spent so far...New driveshaft will go in when I get money for a Quaife diff to go with it.Still shopping for lighter wheels.I think 35% is overshooting drivetrain loss, though.

[240HO]

i dont think that 35% is not overshooting look at it this way u have two drive shafts to turn and then once it get through the diff it has to turn two more shafts. just my two cents.but who cares im just a georgia redneck.

[InsanityInc]

35% drivetrain loss is a ludicrous expectation. 20% is a HIGH drivetrain loss these days. All these people who dyno SRT4s and corvettes and claim the factory is underrating them because the whp they get over 1.2 is greater than the rated CHP crack me up. Stock 240s are rated at 155CHP, they dyno brand new at about 130whp. That's a 16% loss. 124whp brand new would be a 20% loss, and a 35% loss would mean that a brand new 240 would dyno at 100.75whp. Like I said, ludicrous.

[zippitta]

Uh, I would have to agree that 13:1 is not driveable unless you use avgas(which is around 104 octane I believe) or better. But you could get away with 11.5:1 and if you are a bada$$ tuner 12:1. I was running 11.5:1 in my 318 and it ran pretty good. A little hard to start at times and had a small amount of ping during the hottest portion of the summer months, but other than that it was fine.

If I remember right, the guy never said that he was going to daily drive it. He just said that he wanted 13:1. Dont try to rip someones head off without asking first.

[PandaS14]

If I remember right, the guy never said that he was going to daily drive it. He just said that he wanted 13:1. Dont try to rip someones head off without asking first.

I know it is his only car.

[dfw240_EE]

I think 35% is a reasonable number for drivetrain loss, but not for the 240SX. Different cars get different losses. I could see an automatic AWD car getting 35%. I also remember reading in Car & Driver that the Suzuki Verona gets a 35% drivetrain loss. Something to do with the suspension being abnormally short to accommodate a transverse mounted straight 6 engine causing a somewhat awkward design.

16% is about right I think for a manual transmission RWD. A manual FWD would be even lower, nearer 10%.

[Ajax]

Can someone tell me my displacement for boring .050 over? Is it up to 2.489L now?

[A34D4ME]

How do those bike engines put out 185 HP from 1L?

What is max compression if you pull some timing? Also, gas is different in different states and in different seasons. Here they put ethanol in it at times - don't know what it does for knock but I assume it lowers it.

[InsanityInc]

I think 35% is a reasonable number for drivetrain loss, but not for the 240SX. Different cars get different losses. I could see an automatic AWD car getting 35%. I also remember reading in Car & Driver that the Suzuki Verona gets a 35% drivetrain loss. Something to do with the suspension being abnormally short to accommodate a transverse mounted straight 6 engine causing a somewhat awkward design.

16% is about right I think for a manual transmission RWD. A manual FWD would be even lower, nearer 10%.

Yeah, automatics and AWD cars will obviously have more drivetrain loss, but 35% on any manual 2WD car is WAY overestimating it.

[InsanityInc]

How do those bike engines put out 185 HP from 1L?

Same way that F1 gets 800hp from a 3L. High revs.

[Hard_Limitz]

The Aluminum Driveshaft is only around $200. That is how much I paid. You can get them from BnE Customs/LS Automotive. For those that do not know, they work on most of the Falken Team cars and are in Baldwin Park, California. Ask for either Eric or Kevin. And this build has been taking really damn long. I have been waiting for your dyno for months! I thought at first that you were way over the top on your estimates, especially since you were running the JWT ECU. I also have only around 66,000 original miles so I did not see the need for a rebuild. I hope your higher compression makes good numbers for you. My head is running no where near the advertised 11-1 promised by Gude. So I am curious to see how much your rebuild helped. My guess is that you will be around 190whp. Darren at R&D Dyno said the highest KA24DE he ever tuned N/A was around 200whp and that was with ITBs. So all I can say is HURRY UP!

[A34D4ME]

I'm betting at least 225HP.

[240Knightrider]

Where are the numbers

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