Best Cat back exhaust to get?

[Thrwnsprkz]

Hmmm... What? Duel tip BRM?

I know ive seen the single, whats the pricing on that Duel for a 95 240?

[AZhitman]

Pricing is on the first post of the thread....

[midnightclubbaa]

APEXI N1 3 inch no dual just go single like mine I LOVE IT

Same Here

[Nissan-S14]

Buying a 2" or 2.5" exhaust spending $400+ on it for a year, and then once you go turbo you have to buy another one. WOW very smart.

[civics91]

rsr is nice i have the gt2

[flohtingPoint]

I completely hate my Apex'i N1 Dual. In fact, soon as I get to my deployment site in Florida, I plan on stripping this POS of my car and doing what I should have done in the first place. Support my old home state, and go for the BRM.

[AZhitman]

Buying a 2" or 2.5" exhaust spending $400+ on it for a year, and then once you go turbo you have to buy another one. WOW very smart.

Common misconception. Most of the turbo'ed cars here don't need a 3" system, 2.5" is actually just fine.

Like I've said several times, unless you think you're going to be putting 300+ to the wheels, 2.5 is fine, and actually preferable.

Like anything else, it's certainly debateable, but we've seen enough good results to believe it's a prudent position.

p.s. Floht, when you get back to the US, we'll take good care of you. I might even buy the N1 off you so I can use it as an "us - them" comparison at the BRM booth at some events...

[flohtingPoint]

p.s. Floht, when you get back to the US, we'll take good care of you. I might even buy the N1 off you so I can use it as an "us - them" comparison at the BRM booth at some events...

I'm in the US right now =) I'm just stuck in Texas at the moment due to my alt/water pump belt breaking. Expect an email in a week or so.

[Thrwnsprkz]

Pricing is on the first post of the thread....

lol, yea... i just didnt see a duel tipped muffler for the S14 on the BRM website, so you can fabricate custom exausts to meet customer demands then?

I was lookin to keep the stock apearence with their duel tipped oval can, I'm liking the apearence and price of the BRM... but will $ go up with a custom job?

Thanks

[AZhitman]

I don't think we have a jig to do dual-tips on the S14, but if you're serious about it, email me and I'll look into having it done.

[cheez80]

i have the invidia 3" stainless steel. mind you, it's a preproduction version; it's pretty damn loud. i'm also running blitz dp, gutted cat. with silencer, it's pretty quiet, but the tone suffers drastically. i enjoy the tip; it's only something like a 90mm tip, compared the the HUGE ones on hks hiper, etc., etc.; it's still the n1 angled canister.

[rico05]

What you need Hitman is some good pics of the systems on your site. I am very intrested in your 3" SS for the S13. I wanna see how it sounds on my CA;)

[AZhitman]

Well, now that we've gotten all the drama out of the way, turnaround on our S13 systems is pretty quick.

I'm hoping some of the recent customers will shoot some pics BEFORE and after installation...

We blew out 17 S13 systems in one week! Boo-yeah!!!

[MECPInstaller]

sounds like you guys are working quick down in arizona.

[rico05]

Well, if I am able to get one before too long, I can snap some REALLY high rez pics for you.

[240marcuSX]

if you want loud, you can buy my greddy tr evo II 3 inch downpipe back exhaust. I bought it for $450, so id be willing to sell it for that. I put it on my car once and ran it for no more than 10 miles and took it off because it was so loud on an N/A.

[yzfwv]

For who ever said that 3in+ is too big and you'll lose power....check this out.

It's a dyno of the 5zigen pro racer spec III. The guy gained almost 15hp at the wheels and lost NONE across the whole range...

[GEO]

DITTO. I run the APEXI 3" turbo exhaust SINGLE canister and 1st to 2nd chrips. After 3500 the thing jsut takes off... its not loud at all, just as loud as, a porchse. thanks.

[jrc90240sx]

Yeah i have the N1 dual also, not very happy with it. i have had it around 2 years now and i am having to reweld on all the hangers one after another. its rather a pain in the ***. plus the thing weighs a ton. as for looks, i dont think there is a better looking exhaust and the sound is nice. but if i where to do it again i would get the BRM stainless with the dual tips. i might have to with the way this N1 is holding up.

[BooFa]

my N1 dual is holding up pretty nice tho... however.. the sound to me is a little bit too ... throaty.. meaning: it kinda rumbles a bit too much for my taste.. and when i'm at full throttle.. holy crap.. you can hear me coming from literally.. a mile away...

[Nissan-S14]

Here is a fact for you guys, before my 3.2 inch Blitz exhaust, my car ran 15.9 - 16.0, after the blitz it runs constant 15.6-15.7. So whoever said you loose power at 3" for NA motors is :bsflag

[AZhitman]

I have a good place for your BS flagpole.

Actually, what has likely happened with yours is simple, and has to do with bringing your car BACK to "as stock" performance. It should have run 15.6 before the exhaust.

Here's a hint: It has to do with your A/F ratio...

I don't take it personally - If it worked for you, that's all that counts. No flame intended.

[AZhitman]

It's a dyno of the 5zigen pro racer spec III. The guy gained almost 15hp at the wheels and lost NONE across the whole range...

EVERYONE has "one" good dyno run, it's too bad that companies try to mislead customers by implying that you will recognize similar gains.

I have NEVER seen a catback yet on a KA that produces 15 at the wheels consistently. I'd be wary of anyone who says they can give you more than 9.

We had runs that showed gains as low as 2hp and as high as 18 hp. Guess what? We kept testing. Eventually, you develop a scatterplot of results, and you take the MOST frequently occurring result after controlling for external influences. Simple statistical analyses.

[jdmfreak]

LOL! I remember when either Super Street or SCC did an AEM V2 intake test and got 17 hp on an RSX Type-S. IDK how many runs they did or if it's a typeo, but that is pretty high for a CAI.

[Nissan-S14]

I have a good place for your BS flagpole.

Actually, what has likely happened with yours is simple, and has to do with bringing your car BACK to "as stock" performance. It should have run 15.6 before the exhaust.

Here's a hint: It has to do with your A/F ratio...

I don't take it personally - If it worked for you, that's all that counts. No flame intended.

With all do respect, I know you are trying to market your item, and thats fine, but don't go around telling people that 3" is a waist of money, if it was a waist of money companies like Greddy, Blitz, Apex, HKS wouldnt market any of those. Yes these exhausts are made for an SR, but thats what im on planning on doing within a year, and im not about to spend $400 on an exhaust twice. And if you claim that 2.5" is fine for car under 300hp, dont you think companies would sell 2.5" exhausts? And in honesty exhausts like JIC, Blitz, Greddy style and power cannot come even close when comparing any exhausts. So please dont flame people who have 3". In the long run they are the smart one. BUTTT if you dont wan SR and you just want some little extra hp, then im sure your exhaust might be the best for the buck.

[AZhitman]

Yes these exhausts are made for an SR, but thats what im on planning on doing within a year, and im not about to spend $400 on an exhaust twice.

And if you claim that 2.5" is fine for car under 300hp, dont you think companies would sell 2.5" exhausts?

And in honesty exhausts like JIC, Blitz, Greddy style and power cannot come even close when comparing any exhausts.

So please dont flame people who have 3".

1) Good idea - I would recommend that as well. No sense spending more than you have to.

2) GREAT POINT! They used to. Before the F&F and ricer fad got underway, 2.5" was considered large. Exhaust piping (and tips) have gotten like sideburns in the 70's - The bigger, the cooler. But it's hype, and it's unnecessary. Remember, you're only dealing with 2.4l of displacement.

3) Interesting, we have a GReddy, a Blitz, an HKS, and four other systems on the floor of our shop that we used for baselining - All created between 7-12 hp on our stock KA. My goal was to create the same power, with similar quality for less money - we succeeded. So how can that "not even come close?" They make a good product, I don't dispute that, they spend more $$$ on advertising than I do. But no more time in development, that's for sure. And ours isn't "better", just different.

4) No flaming intended - I just don't want people THINKING that you NEED a huge exhaust, because they're spending money they don't need to spend. I respect what you've done with your ride, and I'm glad you're happy with it.

Keep in mind, I'd make more money if everyone bought a 3" system, so I'm actually taking money out of my own pocket.

[yzfwv]

EVERYONE has "one" good dyno run, it's too bad that companies try to mislead customers by implying that you will recognize similar gains.

I have NEVER seen a catback yet on a KA that produces 15 at the wheels consistently. I'd be wary of anyone who says they can give you more than 9.

We had runs that showed gains as low as 2hp and as high as 18 hp. Guess what? We kept testing. Eventually, you develop a scatterplot of results, and you take the MOST frequently occurring result after controlling for external influences. Simple statistical analyses.

That wasn't a company's dyno run...that was a customer's

[Silviapower]

AZhitman this question is a little out of the topic im very new to NICO forum, a week old. this is my question I have a HKS hiper Extaust its kinda loud but dont want to buy new one so if i slap ur biggest resonator would it lower the sound? I dont mine cuting the damn extaust and put the resonator in? If anyone have done something like this pls tell me wat happened?

[AZhitman]

Good question.

I can sell you a resonator, and yes, it should decrease your overall volume.

Actually, the HKS is the only competitors exhaust that's worth a damn in my opinion, and the lack of a resonator (and the price) are its only drawbacks.

Hit me up via email and I'll get you all hooked up.

Welcome to NICO,!!!

[justmerging]

I have an HKS Hyper and it's OK. Hangs a little to low and it scrapes in my driveway. But that could just be my sportlines that cause that. = P

Anyway, the sound isn't too loud as long as you keep your foot off the floor, but even then it's not unbearable. I like to stay low key on the street so I don't draw unwanted attention from the honda boys. Not to sure of the power gains though.