Best 6-cyl ever?

[hannibal]

I love those BMW V12's. I'd read of some used in mid engine kit cars (including an Ultima GTR). Remember, the McLaren F1's engine was a bigger, 48v version of these motors...

[Brandon93240]

Hes on cardomain. I'll see if I can get some pic's from him to put on here. It is a sick ride, we have a buddy that works for Schnider, hes going to build some cams, we just have to find an engine at a salvage yard someone will let us have to cams from. He was just going to buy some from BMW to send but bmw can't get them. He's been talking to Schrik also, the car sounds nuts already I can't imagine with some fatter cams.

[gnvarnadore]

ill kill anyone who puts a honda motor in their nissan. unless its the s2k motor (dont know the code, im not cool )

the F20 is the engine code when they first came out but now they have F22's but they are 4 cylinder engines so i guess they dont matter when it comes to a talk about 6cylinder engines. also from what i remember reading about them they are high compression engines so if most of them dont run high boost because in turbo applications you have low compression and high boost or high compression and low boost. thats just kind of a general rule of thumb when it comes to boost.

[mtcookson]

Currently, the fastest Nissan V6 that I've seen is a heavily built VQ35 making 1,600+ hp (that was a couple years ago though, might be more now). I believe one of the guys that was with the group that did the car is a member here and posted about it.

Anyways, it was the first Nissan to run 6's in the 1/4. I believe the VG30DETT held the record before that. The RB26 is more of a road course engine IMO... the VG, and now VQ, have shown to be better engines as far as all out, extremely high power drag racing goes.

[OutToWinPAHC]

This is a stupid question. Its way to broad. Best motor as far as what? Power, Torque, Fuel Economy, Reliability?

[Swedish Mike]

This is a stupid question. Its way to broad. Best motor as far as what? Power, Torque, Fuel Economy, Reliability?

As posted, most solid block, head and crank. Read again and I think you will understand.

[WDRacing]

This is a stupid question. Its way to broad. Best motor as far as what? Power, Torque, Fuel Economy, Reliability?

Ill ban anyone that uses fuel economy as a bonus...lol.

The entire point is easy, what are the best 6 cylinder motors to make insane amounts of power with?

Volvo is gay!!!!

[Swedish Mike]

Ill ban anyone that uses fuel economy as a bonus...lol.

The entire point is easy, what are the best 6 cylinder motors to make insane amounts of power with?

Volvo is gay!!!!

Haha, come to LA and I´ll show you gay! Gay? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...earch=

Good point by the way....
Modified by Swedish Mike at 12:33 PM 6/3/2007

[OutToWinPAHC]

Looking for a solid 6-cyl engine, best head and block out there?

I guess the Supra 2JZ is one of the best but also BMW´s I6´s able to handle 1500bhp on stock crank and block/head.

Other ideas?

I read it again, and sorry there meatball you didn't specify. Once again the question is too broad. You asked who "Best 6 Cyl ever". What are you exactly looking for, a high comp motor, somehting with massive torque, or just something that looks good on paper.

[Brandon93240]

best 6 cyl ever would be an old school ford 300 carb'd. Most of them have so many miles on them they're a 302, but they keep on going. For making power though they're not to bad, but not street killers by any means.

[WDRacing]

Haha, come to LA and I´ll show you gay! Gay? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...earch=

Good point by the way....

Modified by Swedish Mike at 12:33 PM 6/3/2007

The guy at the junkyard I was at today quated me 1800 friggin bucks for a motor alone, no harness or anything. I was so pissed I didn't don't even remember the model, but it was the inline 5 turbo.

I stand with my Volvo is GAY comment...lol.

[OutToWinPAHC]

best 6 cyl ever would be an old school ford 300 carb'd. Most of them have so many miles on them they're a 302, but they keep on going. For making power though they're not to bad, but not street killers by any means.

4.9 Litre and a single barrel. You just cant kill them, I know someone with 400K on one.

[Swedish Mike]

I read it again, and sorry there meatball you didn't specify. Once again the question is too broad. You asked who "Best 6 Cyl ever". What are you exactly looking for, a high comp motor, somehting with massive torque, or just something that looks good on paper.

Wow, it`s not that hard. The strongest/best stock block and head if you upgrade the internal parts, most hp hunters do that.Some blocks cracks at 500hp and some at 1500hp, some heads can stand more abuse than others.The 2JZ is known for it`s strenght and I`m looking for other options.

All the other posters understood the question by the way...

[WDRacing]

Don't make fun of the kids that ride the shory bus Mike

[JTinJacksonvilleNC]

Uhm, why in the world was the Neon (yes, I called it a Neon) engine even mentioned? The SRT-4 is a turbocharged 4 banger, not a six. IMO the 2JZ is tough, more readilly available stateside than the RB's, but most are higher mileage. Either have aftermarket support that just insane. The VQ's pretty bad too, and getting better all the time. Dig through the right parts bin and you could have a VQ in the 4 litre range and if I remember right, wasn't there a factory Roots type supercharger on one of the truck motors? Me, I went for the old "no replacement for displacement and went for the V8. Guaranteed you can get the horsepower you're after with one, no matter wether it's Ford, Chevy, or whoever. H3ll, there's still a Caddy 472 I'm sitting on trying to decide what to do with. Good luck, no matter what you go with.

[RCA]

No dout its the 2jz.800hp on stock internals1000hp on stock crank1500hp aplications

And more after market support then Chevy 5.7Ls (not really sure but there is a **** load of support for the JZ series motor)

My vote is 2jz

PS send me some sort of link to proff that VQs are making "1600 bhp" because I don't believe it.

PSS Any one knoe what the worlds most powerfull NA 2JZ is?

[WDRacing]

A good friend of mine was working at S&P when they made 1200 RWHP on pump gas...the 2JZ is THE BEST inline motor ever built. However, the fastest 240SX...ok 180SX is powered by the RB26. I watched the HKS 180 run a few times in Japan, it's simply amazing out of the hole. It gives grip and rip a whole new meaning.

WD

[mtcookson]

PS send me some sort of link to proff that VQs are making "1600 bhp" because I don't believe it.

Success!!!! I finally found the video... took some major searching and such to find the name of the file but I got it (there site is currently under construction so they took the video off of the page). Watch the video with this link: http://www.theexperience.com/v...t.wmv

First Nissan to break 6 seconds and is currently the fastest. The builders estimated 1,600+ hp in one of the forums they posted on, can't remember which it was but I'll eventually be able to find it.

Here we go, I knew it was on here somewhere. zer...60408

[RCA]

NICE!I wonder what that gets to the wheels?I know the regular Zs lose alot to the wheels but that aint no regular Z...If its manual or Auto?

I was expecting a "streetable" Z and when I opened it up I was like DAMN!Whats he running 405/50/14s? Those things are massive.

Sweet video tho. I will foward that to my brother =)

[WDRacing]

Real drag cars are auto's or air shifted manuals...reguardless it's no tremec or standard dogbox. I'm guessing the drivetrain costs more then I'll see in the next 2.5 years or so.

Good find homie.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Real drag cars are auto's or air shifted manuals...reguardless it's no tremec or standard dogbox. I'm guessing the drivetrain costs more then I'll see in the next 2.5 years or so.

Good find homie.

Yup, Id like to know what trans that is. Probably a powerglide that was fabbed up to the nissan block

[mtcookson]

Definitely not a Powerglide... if you listen closely to the video it shifts at the very least 4 times... possible even 5.

[mtcookson]

NICE!I wonder what that gets to the wheels?

In this thread they say its actually over 1,600 to the wheels zerothread?id=138044

[RCA]

Am I crazy, or does that make sence...Aluminum block making 1600whp

For some reason I can not fathum that this could be possible.

Some one help me out...

[OutToWinPAHC]

Definitely not a Powerglide... if you listen closely to the video it shifts at the very least 4 times... possible even 5.

That would be weird, really weird. Only because shifting takes time, and time is everything at drag races. Ford, Chevy, Mopars, top fuelers, funny cars, all like the powerglides for that fact. The link is dead so i cant listen, but shifting 5 times is excessive when even 5 second top fuelers shift once.

[Brandon93240]

Are you sure its not just throttle stops, I haven't listened or scene the link. Alot of guys run throttle stops to keep from breaking out of their class. I had my Camaro setup with my motec that way, 408 l98 with a 106 thumper on a glide with electric lockup, was a fun car. I sold it to a guy who still runs the same setup today and its been atleast 4 years that I can remember and it still runs 5.6's in the 1/8 and he's not a very good driver.

[mtcookson]

I should have done this in the first place and just put the video on my site.

http://www.machzracing.com/vid...t.wmv

That would be weird, really weird. Only because shifting takes time, and time is everything at drag races. Ford, Chevy, Mopars, top fuelers, funny cars, all like the powerglides for that fact. The link is dead so i cant listen, but shifting 5 times is excessive when even 5 second top fuelers shift once.

It seems a lot of the import drag racers use setups like that, running something other than the Powerglide. I wouldn't think they'd be holding back either, I think they were trying to run it as fast as they could too.

As for the top fuelers, I think they actually are just straight drive, no gears... just a clutch... its nothing short of insane.

[WDRacing]

Yep, definitly shifting. But those are pull levers with a air shifter, has to be. No way the dude's grabbing gears that quick.

WD

[Brandon93240]

A good buddy of mine has a lenco in his stang, let me tell you SOME INSANE shifting speed, lol.

[ALMOST450SX]

HOW ABOUT A FORD 3.8 OUT OF A SUPERCOUPE