Auto x ?'s

[R350Zz33]

what should i bring for my first time. I found out they have auto x events all the time at Nassau coliseum about and hour away from me.what is absolutely necessary and some good things to have?

Also as we know i have mismatched rears will that be ok? will i pass tech inspection with that?what class will i be in?

maybe a few of you that are close by could show up and give me a few pointers i know ldstang50 is not to far away and i would love to see your NISMO.

[dasoupdude]

Listen to Ld,evil,jet,mezz,cwik,spitual2,bean, etc etc.

Also; listen to Led Zeppelin.

[BusyBadger]

You'll be in B-Stock class in SCCA Solo (Auto-X).

Auto-X Checklist

SCCA 2009 Solo Rulebook

[rmezz13]

Listen to Ld,evil,jet,mezz,cwik,spitual2,bean, etc etc.

Also; listen to Led Zeppelin.

dont ask me i'd have to look it all up.... Add Bubba to that list

[BusyBadger]

Richie, there is a autocross dedicated forum over in NICO Motorsports, you should head over there and ask your questions.

It would be best for you to keep them short, to the point and on-topic.

[raremotive]

dont ask me i'd have to look it all up.... Add Bubba to that list

You rang?

Wait.. I'm not bubba...

Anyways... just enjoy it... if things go south don't blame us like spitalul2bad does.. blame yourself for how you drive...

[R350Zz33]

ill record my runs too i was really asking you guys what i should bring and stuff not some list but things you think i need to have for the Z specifically and is it ok to drift a lil?

[ldstang50]

thanks soup, i feel honored and humbled

richie....what mods have you done to your car? Are you COMPLETELY stock? I only ask, because a cone filter will put you in street prepared (where you'll get destroyed) and a simple shift nob change puts you in SM2 (where you'll get destroyed). I'm not poking fun at your driving, but those cars can be seriously built and on big r compounds. I ran SM last year.

Its a good idea to bring a tire pump, tire pressure gauge, a small tool kit (ratchets, wrenches...) If you have a helmet bring that, make sure you check the snell rating first, you'll probably need a Snell 2000 helmet. Its also a good idea to check your pads, how many miles on your car?

Mixed tires won't be a problem, but save your money for decent tires.

Things you'll need to do for tech.....remove all loose items (I keep my spare in for the extra weight over the rear tires), floor mats, sunglasses, blow up sheep, change, vibrators, cell phones, school books...etc. all need to be removed prior to tech. Make sure you're coolant level is where its supposed to be, along with your brake fluid and oil. Bring blue painters tape to use for your number and class.

Don't go out expecting to win. Go out with the intent of being a sponge and learning. Get an instructor to ride with you and ride with him. Trust me, there is a TON to learn. Other than that, most importantly, have fun!!

[BusyBadger]

Are you COMPLETELY stock? I only ask, because a cone filter will put you in street prepared (where you'll get destroyed) and a simple shift nob change puts you in SM2 (where you'll get destroyed).

Based on this...

Accessories, gauges, indicators, lights and other appearance,comfort and convenience modifications which have no effect on performance and/or handling and do not materially reduce the weight of the car are permitted.

..a shift knob seems ok.

There are a lot of seemingly harmless, everyday mods that would get a car bumped out of Stock classification but Section 13 also has a load of accepted modifications that can be made to a vehicle and still allow it to run in Stock.

Exhaust components downstream from the cat (as long as it complies with Section 3.5 which is VERY SUBJECTIVE), slicone hoses, theromostats, brake pads, a host of suspension & shock changes, front swaybars, different wheels (as long as they're OEM size)...these are all allowed. COMPLETELY stock isn't as complete as it may sound.

[ldstang50]

Based on this...

..a shift knob seems ok.

There are a lot of seemingly harmless, everyday mods that would get a car bumped out of Stock classification but Section 13 also has a load of accepted modifications that can be made to a vehicle and still allow it to run in Stock.

Exhaust components downstream from the cat (as long as it complies with Section 3.5 which is VERY SUBJECTIVE), slicone hoses, theromostats, brake pads, a host of suspension & shock changes, front swaybars, different wheels (as long as they're OEM size)...these are all allowed. COMPLETELY stock isn't as complete as it may sound.

I know its very minor..... a shift knob, but this a fight I got into at my first SCCA event, hoping to run BSP with my Evo, in tech they noticed I didn't have a factory shift knob and was moved to SM. I was pissed.

I found this note in a forum regarding scca rules. I'm still looking for the exact rule that says shift knobs can not be changed in stock class.

Common upgrades that bump you out of stock class:Aftermarket Cold air intakeany throttlebody modany mod that increases boostany mod to the stock ECUany lowering springany rear swaybarany aftermarket body panel or spoilerany exhaust headerany short shift kit/ any aftermarket shift knobany aftermarket racing seatany removal of stock seats

[Konartis]

http://www.nyr-scca.com/solo_ii%20dates.htm

i was thinking of going to that also

[Cesardrgn]

ldstang50 got it down. check your fluids and take everyone off from the inside since you can't have anything lose. and be ready for a great time...

[ldstang50]

Jesus! whats with the long delays between events? March 31 then the next one isnt' till July!Check out PCA, CART, FCSCC, NERAll those clubs hold events more regularly which allows you to hone your skills for bigger events

[R350Zz33]

im completely stock i know i wont win im just looking to improve my driving and have a lil fun.

[BusyBadger]

I know its very minor..... a shift knob, but this a fight I got into at my first SCCA event, hoping to run BSP with my Evo, in tech they noticed I didn't have a factory shift knob and was moved to SM. I was pissed.

Can't say that I blame you. Did you protest it? You should carry around a stock knob and if they call you on it and want to bump you, you could switch it back and them commence to running roughshod over the Stock entrants.

My biggest complaint is not being able to run steel brake lines (and I've no idea what Nissan was thinking when they didn't make them steel, at least on Brembo equipped models). I'd also love to have a finned (cooling) diff cover but that's not allowed either.

I've been looking everywhere for better wheels in OEM sizes and have narrowed it down to Enkei RPFs or Oz Alleggeritas (if I go on the cheap side) and SSR Professors or Work Meisters (if I want to drop a bundle). If I could find a good deal on OEM track wheels I'd be all over it since I love the way the styling, they're light, and they're usually pretty cheap in comparison to the benefits they bring.

[R350Zz33]

so i should leave the spare in what other tips tcs on or off?

[ldstang50]

Can't say that I blame you. Did you protest it? You should carry around a stock knob and if they call you on it and want to bump you, you could switch it back and them commence to running roughshod over the Stock entrants.

My biggest complaint is not being able to run steel brake lines (and I've no idea what Nissan was thinking when they didn't make them steel, at least on Brembo equipped models). I'd also love to have a finned (cooling) diff cover but that's not allowed either.

I've been looking everywhere for better wheels in OEM sizes and have narrowed it down to Enkei RPFs or Oz Alleggeritas (if I go on the cheap side) and SSR Professors or Work Meisters (if I want to drop a bundle). If I could find a good deal on OEM track wheels I'd be all over it since I love the way the styling, they're light, and they're usually pretty cheap in comparison to the benefits they bring.

My protest was going out and setting FTD....2 events in a row.

How light of a wheel are you looking at and size are you getting. I'm having a b**** of a time trying to find decent wheels. 19x10's are NOT cheap

I bought braided lines for trackdays, but you are absolutely right, why no braided lines from the factory!!??? Thats another thing that pisses me off about stock class, older cars can change their brake lines ( I think 92 and older now) but newer cars can't. Since cages are allowed in stock class for 'safety reasons' why not braided lines, it guarantees the same pedal every time and it eliminates rubber line expansion or sudden rupturing.

Richie.....I run with TPS off. I say run with it off, but others might disagree being that you are new. Your an auto.....can you 'manually' shift it, if not, put it in 2, not drive or overdrive.

[raremotive]

Igitur qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum

something that lost it's true intent of understanding...often twisted to fit one's motive..

So, how do you interpret this?

[xjmxstac]

....and is it ok to drift a lil?

[R350Zz33]

i drive with tcs off when its nice so im used to sliding alil also i am auto and i will manually shift and when i said drift a lil i mean would i get in trouble for sliding around some tight corners since there will be smoke and such.

ldstang50 you should join us we are going with the Porsche and bimmer club.

also what class would a 94 civic coupe with full exhaust, including after-market manifold and intake, dropped 2 inches all around every kind of sway bar you can think of, fender braces ect... wider wheels and tires , bbk , 6 puck unsprung clutch gsr lsd transmission and a built gsr swap. (might be turbo by the summer.) thats my friends car it handles really well and has good power. what class would he be in and what other cars will be in the class with him. he also has a after market shift knob.

[raremotive]

[xjmxstac]

Drifting is NOT the fastest way around a corner...you should know that, it's in your sig! That being said, in auto-x that's exactly the whole point--fastest time. Stop snacking on paint chips while your still ahead! Who wants to put money on Richie not participating in this event?! Anyone?...

[R350Zz33]

i know its not the fastest but its the most fun so if i go do i get the money ?

[xjmxstac]

i know its not the fastest but its the most fun so if i go do i get the money ?

Then go to a drift event. You go to showboat, the likes of you kill the very spirit of racing. I am ashamed to have the same badge on my car as you. Vids or FAIL. BTW you can't bet with money you don't have.
Modified by xjmxstac at 1:32 PM 4/3/2009

[ldstang50]

richie, if you are DRIFTING around corners, you will be kicked out. i walk the rear end, but i'm not drifting.nassau coliseum is close enough to me to make, send me a schedule

sounds like your friends car will either be street mod or x prepared. i don't know the full rules regarding turbo additions to hondas and where they get classed. he's out of stock and sp, i know that.

[dasoupdude]

Vids or FAIL.

Them' fightin words. You can't back down from this now Rich. I think everyone now expects you to participate in this event.

with proofs.

[ldstang50]

soup, dem some funny a$$ pics

richie, you better step up man. this is your chance to really show people on here you aren't a poser

post the schedule, i'll be there if i'm not committed elsewhere

[Watermelonwarrior]

i mean would i get in trouble for sliding around some tight corners since there will be smoke and such.

What? There wont be any smoke when your sliding through the corners...

[Bubba1]

What? There wont be any smoke when your sliding through the corners...

I just got home. Wow, a decent thread begun and almost ruined by Richie. As far as autocrossing, Richie might not be old enough yet for most sanctioned events. Most require being at least 18.

the original question was what to bring. That's pretty simple, a car and a helmet that will pass tech. If you want a sample of what's required to pass tech, go to the Carlisle Registration thread under the National events, I posted what we'll be looking for our autocross next month in Carlisle. Our rules are fairly relaxed, but the list should give you an idea.

Unmatched tires will probably pass, but there can be no cuts or dryrot.Most of the requirements are common sense. Your helmet will likely have to be SA 2000 or newer with no cracks. If you don;t have a valid snell sticker, don;t bother showing up. Depending on the organization, you might be required to have brake fluid less than a year old and have x percentage brake pads.some organizations give you a check list to competed by a professional mechanic that you hand in before going thru tech.

As far as what to bring, a good air gauge, torque wrench, fluids, rags, a tarp (you have to unload your car completely) to cover your things in case it rains, and a basic tool kit.

As far as "drifting" tight corners. If that's what you want to do, then don't waste your money autocrossing. There are no style points in autocross, it's lowest time. All you'll do by drifting is roast your rear tires, which you can barely afford as it is.

[redsx13]

Honestly R350Zz33, It soulds like you would have way more fun drifting. I have a 350z as a daily (also use in autox) and a 240sx as a track drift car.

I have wayyyy more fun drifting, the only reason i compete in Autox events is because...

1. I don't have an extra set of rims for my Z (i only have an extra 2 rims)2. My Z has a V type lsd which is not enough for serious drift events3. I don't want to F my Z up by sliding into a wall (i have a 240 for that)4.Tires are really expensive (I go through 6-8 rears a day on my 240, 4 if im competing)5. There is usually something wrong with my 240, it always breaks down,(SR's suck)6.I just love to drive, no matter what the f*** im doing.

But by all means, im not saying don't attend the event, go, it will be fun either way. But go to a drift day as well.