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So after I graduate in a few months and get a job ASAP, I'm gonna need a new car. It's going to be a Hyundai Genesis Coupe with the 6-speed and track package. What I don't know is what engine to go with. I like the immediate fun tune-ability of the 2.0T. With a 9.4:1 CR, I feel like I could throw a good bit of boost at the bottom end. The mgp is respectable at ~24 from the actual experiences.

The VQ-esque V-6 motor comes with the out of the box quality that makes for a great reliable car with decent cheap HP with room for modest modification. The 10.4:1 CR makes me think that any kind of decent boosting (over 10 psi) is out of the question without doing something with the bottom end. Could do a thicker HG but idk if I want to take it that far.

HP isn't the main concern here. My main concern is practicality. I want a decently quick, good looking car (preferably with boost) that is going to make a good dd and possible commuter. Thoughts?


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V6 Mustang or Camaro > either Genesis.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:V6 Mustang or Camaro > either Genesis.
I disagree. Many see the Genesis V6 as a better car than the Mustang/Camaro. It blows away the lame Camaro, however the Mustang isn't far behind. I mean, they're two brand new cars, they're probably so close that it'll be personal preference. My opinion is if you're gonna get a Mustang, get a V8.

But as far as the two options for the Genesis, I would definitely get the V6 if I had the choice. It's better power out of the box and I'm sure you'll be much happier with the powerband. There's not gonna be any boost issues, and I'm sure even the gas mileage isn't that much worse.

But if you're gonna start dumping gobs of money into it, it really doesn't matter. If you want something that's faster and better handling, just get a 370z.

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Not looking to put more than ~$5,000 in total mods. I'm definitely not interested in the Mustang or Camaro really. I'd take a Challenger over either of them. I think the SRT-8's are going to be pretty collectible cars in about 30 years...
370Z is more that I want to spend. Don't really want a Z unless I can get a 370. Also the Hyundai V-6 runs on good ole 87-octane.

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2.0T

I know this will be your DD... but later down the road when you want to start modding the I-4 will have cheaper parts, it will be easier to work on, its already boosted... the list goes on.

btw... spoiler-less FTW
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V6 on boost.

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+1 On the Camaro

The 1 piston sliders on the Camaro out brake the Brembo on the Genesis.

Just saying.

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Could be remedied with different rubber and/or rotors and pads...

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I LOLs at V6 Mustangs and Camaros!!

get a v6.

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These bad boys fall within the price range...

*hint* Image *hint*

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as much as I love the new Camaro, I just couldnt bring myself to buy a V6. same with the Mustang and the Challenger. if you dont have a V8 in the Camaro, Mustang, or Challenger you are going to regret it.

and a older BMW vs a new car? um... no.
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E39s are a dime a dozen. Everyone and their mother has one. Plus those M5 wheels are probably some of the ugliest BMW has turned out.

That color is absolutely gorgeous though.

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Genesis looks good in blue too

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:It blows away the lame Camaro, however the Mustang isn't far behind.
I would say this is very much a subjective statement, and I would also say I can't agree.
sbird1 wrote:NI'm definitely not interested in the Mustang or Camaro really. I'd take a Challenger over either of them.
I'd put the Challenger in a distance 4th place out of these 4 options.
But that aside, the reason I mentioned (and always mention when Genesis Coupe discussions pop up) the Camaro and Mustang is that both of them now offer outstanding V6 powerplants in the base models for a very appealing price--which just so happens to match the pricing of the Genesis Coupe. So they're obvious alternatives.

I specifically didn't mention the Challenger because its SOHC 3.5 liter is not in the same league as the other cars, yet the base model Challenger is the priciest of the 4.
Even talking V8s, the Hemi doesn't compare with the LS3 and Coyote.

I'm not saying your choices are bad, just clarifying why I suggested what I did. :bigthumb:

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Not saying your opinions are bad either and they are very appreciated. The Challenger would be more fun to me and if I was going to get a "retro American muscle car" the Challenger SRT-8 would be it... in Hemi orange. Mmmmmm.Camaro SS would be the second place if going that route. I like the Camaros but I can't stand to have a n/a V-6 over the choice of a V-8. I'm just not a fan of the newest Mustangs though. The front is nice, but the a** end looks like s*** IMO. Also same engine argument as the Camaro.

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So let me get this straight. You have no job, You are just coming out of school(probably with alot of debt), and you're looking for a car?

Where is the option for an early 90s Honda?

*edit* Do you really have a Cobra? If so, what's the issue with that?

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That v-6 in the mustang has more power and twice the mileage than your cobra... doesn't look like it crashed coming off the production line (That door kink *shudders*)... and offers cheaper modification. Just wait until it gets Direct injection.

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This is true, but the 4.6 is one of the best sounding engines ever made. Which somewhat makes up for the fact that it returns abysmal fuel economy and is lacking in power by modern standards.

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Dasoupdude wrote:I'm a fan of the Genesis coupe
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just throwing this out there, i picked up a couple of things from 240sxmotoring a couple weeks back. jeff (the owner) sold his s14 and bought a genesis, don't remember which engine (don't really care, they don't do it for me). i asked him how it was and he simply replied "meh, it's alright, i guess." this coming from a guy who most definitely knows his way around cars.

that being said, i won't offer my opinions on other options, because that's not what you asked for. out of the two, i'd say go for the v6.

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Genesis coupe looks like a bar of soap with a puckered face. I'm sure its a nice car otherwise.

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I don't think it is a good idea to buy any new model the first year it comes out.(Think about the 350Z).

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sx moneypit wrote:I don't think it is a good idea to buy any new model the first year it comes out.(Think about the 350Z).
I don't think it's a good idea to buy a ~$30,000 car right out of school and just starting a job for fiscal responsibility reasons.

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sbird1 wrote:Not looking to put more than ~$5,000 in total mods. I'm definitely not interested in the Mustang or Camaro really. I'd take a Challenger over either of them. I think the SRT-8's are going to be pretty collectible cars in about 30 years...
370Z is more that I want to spend. Don't really want a Z unless I can get a 370. Also the Hyundai V-6 runs on good ole 87-octane.
The fact the SRT8 might possibly become somewhat collectible in 30 years should be irrelevent to a purchasing decision unless you intend to keep the car for that long. I have a friend that bought one. Its not a particularly practical car. (more of a weekend fun car than DD) You're only gonna get about 10K out of a set of tires if you drive it conservatively. Very tempting car to tromp.

The hyundai is a nice choice, if you don't want to spend the extra bucks for a 370z. Reliable, fun to drive, looks good, and reasonably priced.

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Bubba1 wrote:looks good
There's not enough beer in the world to make this true.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:
Bubba1 wrote:looks good
There's not enough beer in the world to make this true.
It's a busier design than 370z but IMHO their looks kinda grow on you after awhile, like a fungus. :)

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iirc, dr. scholl has a cream for that.

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I think it looks much better than the 370.

Get the turbo if you do get a Genesis, but I don't think it is wise to buy a new car fresh out of school.

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sx moneypit wrote:I don't think it is a good idea to buy any new model the first year it comes out.(Think about the 350Z).
I think that's true of American cars, but I bought a new '03 350z, and have driven it harder than most owners, it's been fine for me.


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