Are you satisfied with your VLSD

Post by **thefro526** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:31 pm

For most people the OS Giken is just about the same as any other clutch type LSD. And it's not lock 100% of the time because an LSD is only locked some of the time hence the name "limited slip differential"

Post by **Joe** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:15 pm

Jfob wrote:ANY ONE HAS ANY EXPERIANCE WITH OS GIKEN'S SUPER LOCK LSD?IT SUPPOSE TO LAST WAY LONGER BECAUSE IT LOCKS 100%

that would be a welded differential my friend.

there no way its locked 100% of the time and its a clutch diff.

Post by **TheHeath** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:31 pm

I do have a question actually:

welding a vlsd...

possible? I see vlsd center diffs welded... but never had my cover off or seen the internals on a vlsd to know how dumb my question is... ha

Post by **TheHeath** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:32 pm

second question... would it be rediculous to weld a diff... and have two pumpkins? VLSD and a welded.... then switch before and after events...

you'd think you'd get quick at it...

may be a horrible idea, but though I'd throw it out there...

Post by **naed240sx** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:26 pm

Ive swapped pumpkins like 10 times. You get to the point where it's like a 1.5 hour job with hand tools and with a friend to help position it in place.

Not worth it to swap before and after every event. I would want to kill myself.

Post by **naed240sx** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:27 pm

TheHeath wrote:I do have a question actually:

welding a vlsd...

possible?

No, not possible.

Post by **xckid** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:18 pm

I thought it is possible i mean its just welding it locked couplings will still be there just not work. Today my vlsd sucked went out for a highway cruise, and i guess the couplings were to warm and i couldnt get the tires to lock up to well.

Post by **Mkiisupra** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:26 pm

Kamin wrote:heh try a clutch diffyou will hate the helical.

<3 the stock 1.5 way clutch type in my Supra.

Post by **sloweighty** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:00 am

is clutch lsd really bad for daily because i have one and it does a good job

Post by **BuudWeizErr** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:39 am

i don't feel like reading the whole thread, but VLSD does work. I drifted on one for three years (and i held my own), and one of my good friends who was better than me had a VLSD too.

you just won't burn up both tires evenly, its harder to initiate and just generally sucks.

it's the open diff you stay away from.

Post by **Crazian609** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:40 pm

Heres my opinion...

If your rich.... Go ahead and spend that $700 for a Kaaz Thier much fun and good for daily driving.. Welding your diff will have you chirping tires around the simplest turns and paranoid a cop will pull ya over

If your a budget drifter like me and smart... Id say Drop your pumpkin and get that effer welded for 50-70 bucks... and Save that 650-630 ull spend for just a LSD or that Ebay one for 300... AND GO GET SOME EFFEN TIRES!... Be smart people.. Either way VLSD/ Kaaz 1.5/2way/ Or welded itll be useless with tires having the steel braid hanging out..

Conclusion. Welded Diff is the best to go when drifting... Your car will break loose with no lag compared to a LSD... I had both. Kaaz 2 way and Welded... I preferr to man up and use welded for drift competitions... 2 way if its a daily driver.

So its all your decision... Are you more drift? or are you more of a 240sx cruiser? The choice is yours padawans... Attract more attention to your already SR20 illegal swap/KA-T... Or hide it cause the car is your daily driver
Modified by Crazian609 at 1:49 AM 11/9/2008

Post by **phanatikz32** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:50 pm

my car is stock with a vlsd and it sucks. 2 of my first crashes were because my vlsd kicked out when i didnt want it too or too late. its stupidly unpredictable and it sucks for drifting.....

Post by **naed240sx** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:37 am

Lol you have got to me kidding me man. Blaming a crash on a differential? Short of the gears themselves shearing off and the entire rear end seizing up that was driver error.

Post by **bball212000** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:55 am

it all depends on your personal preference and budget. also, on first page of this thread whoever said you can check backlash by hand is an idiot, the difference of a few thousandths can cause premature wear, failure, and gear whine.

Post by **phanatikz32** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:25 pm

naed240sx wrote:Lol you have got to me kidding me man. Blaming a crash on a differential? Short of the gears themselves shearing off and the entire rear end seizing up that was driver error.

how do you explain a clutch kick and the rear not loosing traction as being a driver error? i mean i'm a newb but still.

Post by **starkos14** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:26 pm

figured i might add my .02... i liked my j30 for about a year.. good for dd but hate it for drifting now. its not a bad way to get started when your "drift car" is still a dd and weekend drifter, given the diff is in good condition and still locks. sometimes it will feel like drifting on an open diff again and your $250 diff upgrade was for nothing. also, i hate hate hate hate having the longer gears w/ the j30 now.

Post by **Chris28** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:13 pm

I see there is a lot of hate for the j30 haha. I have it, and it's awesome cause i'm not peg legging around town anymore, but it has locked sometimes when I haven't wanted it to. Example - light drizzle, I'm waiting to turn left at a red light. 2 turn lanes, I'm in the outside lane. I was about 3 cars back from the intersection, so there were cars in front of me and behind me. About halfway through the turn, the back steps out...I didn't change gears, change throttle, or anything. Back slides out, I countersteer and basically drift around the corner. Scared the sh** out of me. Had I been in the inside lane, I'm sure I would have tapped the car outside of me.

What am I going to do about unpredictable locking? Shim the diff. Shimming it puts pressure on the locking plates making the diff lock more easily.

http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/....html

Post by **sloweighty** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:08 am

(http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/....html) hey man that was the best LSD web site i ever saw thanks for posting that up (Chris28)

Post by **Ken Park** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:21 pm

What are these all about?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ories

Post by **Biggamehit** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:40 am

so far in my drift career i have had open...welded....VLSD and now 2way..

I learned to deal with all of them. this is my order of what is better personally.

1.2way2.welded3.VLSD4.OPen

the Vlsd was somewhat cool but you had to initiate at high speeds and or you would have to fight the car sideways.

when i went to 2way............ I could tell the difference between welded right away as the 2-way felt amazing on the decel and accel. My transitions were never smoother.

Post by **stealthyninja66** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:27 pm

naed240sx wrote:
No, not possible.

you sir are 100% wrong! you can infact weld up a vlsd!

powered by max in california has been welding vlsd for a while now along with offering the best welded diff!

link below!http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e1...?2101

Post by **Slappy** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:46 pm

Update : My VLSD is sill kicking and im now in B Group. Ive had 5 hrs or track time at the ASB and 5 hrs of track time at the Kart Track in NJ and my VLSD works flawlessly.

Post by **AZ89two4Tsx** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:56 pm

^ Is yours shimmed Slappy?

Post by **Slappy** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:00 pm

Nope, took right off a Skyline GTS & slapped it right on to mine, well after putting new fluid in it.

Post by **stealthyninja66** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:37 pm

whats need to swap the skyline r200 into the s13? does it require a drive shaft?

Post by **Slappy** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:13 pm

Goes right in.

Post by **AZ89two4Tsx** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:20 pm

^ Are the ratios the same? I would imagine they're a tad bit higher right?

Post by **Slappy** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:36 pm

Man, my gear set is GREAT for drifting, but HORRIBLE for road use.

Gear set = 4.36 Alot lower then stock. Opposite of the J30 gears

My mph is off about 17+ mph. I need to mark my driveshaft and count the revolutions to calibrate my speedo.

Post by **maj Andres** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:51 am

How would you calibrate your speedometer?

Post by **Slappy** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:30 pm

Ok, the same person i asked before on how to re-calibrate my speedo just told me he doesnt remember.

But i know this is what he told me, er...something like this....

Make a mark on your drive shaft, count the revolutions ...um..DAMMNIT!! Its gone. I just forgot WTF it was i was gonna type. Call a shop and ask them.

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