Anyone tried Hydrogen?

[rb25drag]

ok so more washers less space, got ya.

So is SS washers a big difference? and preferred?

[ItzGenX]

You use SS bolts, nuts, washers, and any other metal hardware in the cell because when water splits, oxygen will attack the metal at an alarming rate. Oxygen + Iron = all sorts of Iron Oxides (aka rusts). Oxygen is a positively charged ion. You will notice that your positive side will rust and eat away within an hour worth of run time because the oxygen is actually attracted to it. The water in the cell will then turn brown and look like sewer water.

[matafied]

yea dude way to far apart, just search youtubeall sorts of easy designs

[JPsNissans]

You use SS bolts, nuts, washers, and any other metal hardware in the cell because when water splits, oxygen will attack the metal at an alarming rate. Oxygen + Iron = all sorts of Iron Oxides (aka rusts). Oxygen is a positively charged ion. You will notice that your positive side will rust and eat away within an hour worth of run time because the oxygen is actually attracted to it. The water in the cell will then turn brown and look like sewer water.

I am glad you stuck with this thread even after some people were freaking out on you like you just changed their whole life perspective or something

I have no experience with this myself, but stuff like this is pretty popular out here. The same guys who have been pioneering DIY Biodiesel for years and years are now getting into stuff like this out here. A buddy of mine was just talking about hydrogen setups the other day, I think it's funny how the "rednecks" (what most of yall would call rednecks anyways) and such are the ones working on this stuff the most.

[rb25drag]

LOL, Guess im redneck cause ill try anything once!! I think its pretty cool when someone experiments with things no one agrees with and think it can't be done.

[eckominds]

one of my buddies is running a hydrogen set-up on his jeep gran cherokee. he claims he runs 5 bucks on gas for a week and a half. i dont know much of the set up itself but for 5 bucks for 1 week and half sounds sweet *** hell.heres his set-up:

[rb25drag]

Looks like your buddies setup is wired straight to the battery? How does he turn it off? LOL, He can't drive to far on 5$, LOL Not now days. Possibly 25 miles or so.

Anyways, little update. Last week I tried the setup I posted. I gained 2MPG

So over the weekend I changed to stainless steel washers and changed the spacing to 1/4 inch between them.

So ill have the results tomorrow.

But my dad says he picked up 8MPG on his 1995 GMC 1500 pickup 350 V8.

[rb25drag]

Results are in, in 400 Miles this week I stopped filled up and got 26 MPG, So results are= Fail, 0 mpg gain. Any suggestions?

[matafied]

yea revise your setup, make one with more plate surface area along with more plates. more plates + surface area = more hydro

i have hooked up 3 hydrogen generators ( not on Rb's ) and have seen anywhere from 2-5 mpg incress. nothing to huge but an incress none the less

[rb25drag]

Alright, ill add some more washers, I have 6 on there now. How far from the bottom are you guys taking your plates? I have a good 1/2 inch to 1 inch clearance.

[matafied]

i would change the design, mine are all like this



not mine but close

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

also throw in a Frequency generator and it helps out a bunch

[rb25drag]

How thick are your plates? You using solid plates? No holes?

[240z4u]

The hindenburg tried hydrogen....



Best of luck dude.

[Yellow4g63]

The hindenburg tried hydrogen....



Best of luck dude.

[rb25drag]

Well here is what my container looked like when I pulled it out. It has some Crap all in it.



Here is another new setup I built today. I used SS plates this time. So will see how it goes.

[nissandrftr88]

Add some salt.....Use only SS on everything...and also might wanna add another battery and isolator

[rb25drag]

Im not able to find any SS rod around here.

What does the salt do?

[nissandrftr88]

When you add salt it increases the conductivity

Also, are you only useing one jar??

If so use another one and fill it about half way.Run a line from the main one that your making the hydrogen from into it.This will act like a filter,then you can run a line out of this "filter"and into your intake.
Modified by nissandrftr88 at 5:10 PM 6/28/2008

[onepuff]

I don't think you wanna add salt. Makes some kind of toxic compound. I've heard baking soda. Salt would be bad.

[onepuff]

Well here is what my container looked like when I pulled it out. It has some Crap all in it.



Here is another new setup I built today. I used SS plates this time. So will see how it goes.

Sorry to tell you but that setup isn't gonna do jack. The plates are way too far apart. The plates should be separated by mm not inches. Maybe 1-2mm. Have you looked at any of the videos on youtube. Here's some links i've accumulated while researching this stuff. Not sure if they are all good links anymore though.

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/fuelcell ... /watercar/

[rb25drag]

The plates are only about 1/4 inch apart. We have tried closer, 1/8th inch but it popped our fuse in the matter of mins.

Sorry I have not been able to check out any of the video's im on dial up internet and well you know how long that takes.

I do use baking soda in my water mix.

I would think it would work B/c when i trun it on it instantly turns white and starts bubbling, But will give it a shot this week and see if its any different. I drive about 690 miles a week to and from work So i always give them the ultimate test.

[matafied]

what size fuse?? keep in mind that these units can draw over 20 amp's easy. and yes those plates need to be alot closer

[rb25drag]

it popped a 20amp fuse. Ill try moving them closer again.

[upstate240]

Yes hydrogen DOES help improve mileage... I encourage you all to tinker around with it and find out for YOURSELF how much difference it makes.

I have been experimenting with HHO production for a while now and can tell you that if you read and study how to actually use this stuff you will see results.

Every vehicle I own has a hydrogen booster helping it save fuel.

My latest project is my s13 with a redtop SR. That's right... I am using this stuff on my sr.

My s13 is basically a stock SR with a 3" catback and a stage 3 clutch. With the hydrogen not only can you feel more power but the turbo spools even quicker than usual when driving for sport.

With hydrogen alone this car is getting 30mpg in the city and 41mpg on the highway!

Prior to hydrogen the best mileage this vehicle got was about 24 city/ 28hwy.

Here is a quick video of the hydrogen running in my sr...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_8C4ft0IXI

There are no electronic controls leaning out my fuel as has been expertly explained in previous posts. I build such devices and ship them all over the world for other hydrogen experimenters.

So right now I am not messing with air fuel ratio in the 240. Soon I will be installing a wide band so I can watch the engine as I lean out the mix... but that is in the future... so MORE mileage can be possible with tuning.

This summer I also intend to do some actual dyno testing on the power increase on vs. off hydrogen.

I also have hydrogen in my 16 year old 4x4 pathfinder and get highway MPGs in the city! Check my other videos.

I just wanted to chime in with my actual real world results since I saw some folks claiming it is impossible and a scam.

Beware of those who tell you why you can not do something... they have often never attempted any experiments themselves are just parroting other "know it alls" who have also never done any real world research.

I am not here to prove to the naysayers that this works... they will never believe. For those of you curious if this hydrogen stuff can really save gas ...

YES! Find some free plans.... buy the water4gas ebook... just get started! Realistically you can save 10-50% on your fuels cost...

To those of you already tinkering with HHO... keep it up!

Glad to answer any real questions you guys have if I can be of help. I have been a 240sx nut for a decade now so I have a passion for these cars and am happy to help. Skeptics will be ignored as I am far to busy actually helping real people get more MPGs.

~JasonHydroHybrids.Net

[eckominds]

Looks like your buddies setup is wired straight to the battery? How does he turn it off? LOL, He can't drive to far on 5$, LOL Not now days. Possibly 25 miles or so

i have no clue mang. thats what he said. and i have no clue how he turns it off. must be on all the time lol.

[driftnslide1]

ive helped build severa of these now. one for a really old saturn on for a bmw and one for myself that i dont want to put on yet. not sure how steam will react to the rb20's turbo.that saturn went from about 20mpg to 36 and the bmw is still it testing but with no sure number yet. the guy testing it is having problems with the electrodes eroding and is searching for a good lot of stanless steel. many small diesels and seeing much much larger gains though.

[drift_bucket]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_8C4ft0IXI

[rb25drag]

A guy around here also has been messing around with it and he found that if you add 2 T spoons of baking soda in a 42oz jar it will draw 4 amps, he went from 18MPG to 24MPG with this setup So he did a 3 t spoon test and it drew 10 amps and he says he went to 53mpg. So I dunno, It seems to be working for alot of people.

I averaged this last trip 30MPG in my s-10 so I have picked up 3MPG so far.

[drift_bucket]

hell yah man that is sick im going to be making a trip to my local hardware store and have to mess around with it. do you have any suggestions on what to use for the metal sheets on the inside?

[nissandrftr88]

hell yah man that is sick im going to be making a trip to my local hardware store and have to mess around with it. do you have any suggestions on what to use for the metal sheets on the inside?

stainless steel light switch plates from home depot or the like,stainless steel rod from same.