You guys done airing your dirty laundry?
This does not look good to the outsider who may be considering giving Adam's operation several thousand dollars, only to begin the "unknown" waiting period. Inter-company disputes should be handled as such. Not here.
-Phil
Anyone still waiting on an SR from Afterdark?
This isnt inter-company. And I have pretty much stayed out of it, but honestly if you were someone putting down that money and about to take that waiting period wouldnt you want every bit of information you could find before doing so? Trying to defend afterdark by discouraging discussion is definetly not the right thing to do. We have yet to say anything derogatory about the company and I dont forsee any such comments arising in the future. However if any attack regarding myself as an employee or person surfaces I wont hesitate to defend myself. Neither I nor my fellow mechanics knowingly passed along an untruth to a customer or prospective customer. If someone was told their car was finished, and it wasnt it was because we didnt know exactly to whom we were speaking to. As far as deadlines of completions and dates engines were to arrive the information we passed on was merely the information we were provided with. If you have ANY dispute with my actions as a mechanic and employee feel free to instant message or email me. Justin M. Jindrich
EDIT: minor grammatical errors
EDIT: minor grammatical errors
How are we showing the public things are not as they seem? And how do you find it wrong that someone would read this and take their business somewhere else. Interesting how you present it that if a company were having problems with personnel and delivery you would be upset by a customer going to a different company. Investment advisors could possibly be found fraudulent in court for witholding information about a personnel and delivery problem at a company in which the customers money was being invested. And yet you are suggesting that we are doing something wrong by providing the information which you say shows afterdark is having problems with personnel and deilvery? Regardless of wether people want to find information regarding a large investment they may be making or not it is in their best interest to find said information.
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SWIFT_DRIFT
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This isnt inter-company. And I have pretty much stayed out of it, but honestly if you were someone putting down that money and about to take that waiting period wouldnt you want every bit of information you could find before doing so? Trying to defend afterdark by discouraging discussion is definetly not the right thing to do. We have yet to say anything derogatory about the company and I dont forsee any such comments arising in the future.
Yes you would want every bit of information before spending 2500 on a motorset. However being told in Jan. that you will have your motor in Feb. then being told in Feb. that you will have to wait until Mar....And now here it is late July and people are being told they will have to wait until early Sept. now is RIDICULOUS! I am not trying to defend Afterdark, however I think what Adam has going is a big joke. Advertising WELL before you have any product to show is not a good business method, making people wait practically a YEAR for a motor I could get in 3 days is NOT good business practice. Now we have bickering between former employees (fired, quit, whatever reason) only justifies that something is indeed wrong with this company in my mind. Simple lesson to be learned here: stick with a company who can actually stock motors/clips and who has a reputation far beyond your post count in a forum.
Yes you would want every bit of information before spending 2500 on a motorset. However being told in Jan. that you will have your motor in Feb. then being told in Feb. that you will have to wait until Mar....And now here it is late July and people are being told they will have to wait until early Sept. now is RIDICULOUS! I am not trying to defend Afterdark, however I think what Adam has going is a big joke. Advertising WELL before you have any product to show is not a good business method, making people wait practically a YEAR for a motor I could get in 3 days is NOT good business practice. Now we have bickering between former employees (fired, quit, whatever reason) only justifies that something is indeed wrong with this company in my mind. Simple lesson to be learned here: stick with a company who can actually stock motors/clips and who has a reputation far beyond your post count in a forum.
Actually I never said I wanted to stop the public debating of it. I just said that I didnt want to start slandering. In fact Id rather discuss things in the open so that the parties that it interests know whats happening as well. You were the one who wanted it off the forums. Ive done nothing but quote you and give my opinion on what you have said. Never did I voice my own opinion other than saying I think it is correct for other people to know about a business before doing business with them regardless of what context it is in. I would want to know I was buying a house from the mob if that were the situation. It wouldnt matter if the house appeared to be in good condition, and the paperwork seemed to be in order. If someone I knew tried to stop another friend from telling me the house was owned by mobsters Id be upset. Feel free to respond. And just so you know if you want to tell me something or want to ask me to take something off the forums feel free to ask ME and not chickenboo. Last I checked we werent related, living together, conjoined twins, sex partners, needle sharers, or neighbors.
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ChickenBoo
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I'm sitting here watching the degradation of Adam's reputation. The members who have sat around and waited, and waited, are asking other members what's up.
At first, I would have liked to see you guys handle your problems off-board. I still feel this would have been best. You guys continue to comment.
I'll ask again,
Are you guys done airing your dirty laudry?
The public is curious, but that doesn't justify you guys disputing issues publicly. What you are all doing now is worsening the problem, and making potential buyers question NOT ONLY the company's credibility, but also it's capability.
I'm sitting here watching you guys shoot each other in the foot.
Deal with this in private? Or continue to air a company's personnel issues?
Quoting me should be the <least> of your concerns.
I'll comment as I see fit. I suggested to keep this matter private, nobody obliged. Personally, I don't care either way, but now that you guys cannot seem to manage personal affairs in an appropriate manner, the public will know about the problems with the company. This WILL result in a tarnished image. Are you guys happy with that?
Don't bother coming after me, you'll find no sympathy here. You guys should have kept a lid on it to begin with. You can't seem to do so. You've aired the dirty laundry.
Don't place blame for your comments on me. I said shut up, you couldn't. JJ240 says the public should know. Check with him.
At first, I would have liked to see you guys handle your problems off-board. I still feel this would have been best. You guys continue to comment.
I'll ask again,
Are you guys done airing your dirty laudry?
The public is curious, but that doesn't justify you guys disputing issues publicly. What you are all doing now is worsening the problem, and making potential buyers question NOT ONLY the company's credibility, but also it's capability.
I'm sitting here watching you guys shoot each other in the foot.
Deal with this in private? Or continue to air a company's personnel issues?
Quoting me should be the <least> of your concerns.
I'll comment as I see fit. I suggested to keep this matter private, nobody obliged. Personally, I don't care either way, but now that you guys cannot seem to manage personal affairs in an appropriate manner, the public will know about the problems with the company. This WILL result in a tarnished image. Are you guys happy with that?
Don't bother coming after me, you'll find no sympathy here. You guys should have kept a lid on it to begin with. You can't seem to do so. You've aired the dirty laundry.
Don't place blame for your comments on me. I said shut up, you couldn't. JJ240 says the public should know. Check with him.
I have yet to say anything I think the public should know. Dont put the blame for anything on me. My last post before you decided to contribute to this thread was:
You could have taken my advice, and ask me in private if I was done discussing things on the forum, but you posted. Its not my fault YOU brought it back to the forum. And I have yet to say anything that would tarnish AfterDarks name. That wasnt my intention posting here. My point was that if there is truly something the public should know that would discourage them from going with a certain company by all means they should know it. I have yet to offer anything that I believe would lead someone to that conclusion.
JJ240 wrote:My aim is Skameister2600 hit me up there if you want.
You could have taken my advice, and ask me in private if I was done discussing things on the forum, but you posted. Its not my fault YOU brought it back to the forum. And I have yet to say anything that would tarnish AfterDarks name. That wasnt my intention posting here. My point was that if there is truly something the public should know that would discourage them from going with a certain company by all means they should know it. I have yet to offer anything that I believe would lead someone to that conclusion.
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ChickenBoo
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SmithSR wrote:I'm sitting here watching the degradation of Adam's reputation. The members who have sat around and waited, and waited, are asking other members what's up.
Where did we degrade adam instead of defending ourselves? and you also told us we shouldn't be saying what's up, which we haven't
At first, I would have liked to see you guys handle your problems off-board. I still feel this would have been best. You guys continue to comment.
Why the change of positions not once but twice? his last comment to you was to IM him, you chose to extend the conversation. how come we can't have it both ways but you can?
I'll ask again,
Are you guys done airing your dirty laudry?
we were done several posts ago.
The public is curious, but that doesn't justify you guys disputing issues publicly. What you are all doing now is worsening the problem, and making potential buyers question NOT ONLY the company's credibility, but also it's capability.
The only reason they would question it was if they had reason to, which apparantly even if there is one, that should be kept on the hush hush about all businesses so the members get screwed, right?
I'm sitting here watching you guys shoot each other in the foot.
Deal with this in private? Or continue to air a company's personnel issues?
how many times should we stop it? i'm just wondering.
Quoting me should be the <least> of your concerns.
I like making it the most of mine....
I'll comment as I see fit. I suggested to keep this matter private, nobody obliged.
i obliged, and justin tried to.
Personally, I don't care either way,
you obviously do....
but now that you guys cannot seem to manage personal affairs in an appropriate manner, the public will know about the problems with the company.
which they shouldn't right?
This WILL result in a tarnished image. Are you guys happy with that?
No, we would have been happy to continue to work, trust us.
Don't bother coming after me, you'll find no sympathy here.
I sincerely hope you don't think this post is for sympathy..
You guys should have kept a lid on it to begin with. You can't seem to do so. You've aired the dirty laundry.
none of us seriously posted until page 3, so we technically didn't open the lid.
Don't place blame for your comments on me. I said shut up, you couldn't. JJ240 says the public should know. Check with him.