Altima Grounding Kits

[Sentientbydesign]

Alright guys,

Here's the updated info. As I promised many, I am going to be completely honest about things.

I have kits "ready" for the 2.5L and 3.5L 07+ Altis.

I say "ready" because there are still 2 more grounding points that I want to add to the systems and I haven't found them yet...That sounds bad.

Let me say it this way: There are two important systems that should be grounded. I haven't found out the proper points for those systems.

The early results of the kits are that the engines seem to rev faster and audio is cleaner and louder.

Because the CVT has a mind of it's own, getting consistent performance results is nearly impossible. Just like Adidas trying to Dyno his A/C.

If you want the kit in it's current form, the price is $60 + shipping

There might be other benefits like the fuel economy or brighter headlights, but I would have had to borrow Jose, Kenny, and Daniel's Altis for a week or so to really get all of that info.

Red Kits: 3

ItsjustbusinessSpockrockDangeris

Blue Kits: 4

Adksaad- PaidItalianBulldogeight3sixMcheddadi

I'd like to get a couple more orders for each color before buying spools. Anybody want to follow in Adam's footsteps?

[rjdmmfl1]

Alright guys,

Here's the updated info. As I promised many, I am going to be completely honest about things.

I have kits "ready" for the 2.5L and 3.5L 07+ Altis.

I say "ready" because there are still 2 more grounding points that I want to add to the systems and I haven't found them yet...That sounds bad.

Let me say it this way: There are two important systems that should be grounded. I haven't found out the proper points for those systems.

The early results of the kits are that the engines seem to rev faster and audio is cleaner and louder.

Because the CVT has a mind of it's own, getting consistent performance results is nearly impossible. Just like Adidas trying to Dyno his A/C.

If you want the kit in it's current form, the price is $60 + shipping

There might be other benefits like the fuel economy or brighter headlights, but I would have had to borrow Jose, Kenny, and Daniel's Altis for a week or so to really get all of that info.

Sentient, now that were're back on the same page, hit me up via email, and since i have the A/C I will spend some time looking for those extra grounding points for you... when I find it, I'll send you the measurements...also, I will be purchasing a kit from you... I think we got off on the wrong foot.. isn't the first and won't be the last, but its cool, hey nobody's perfect....

[LongBeachCoupe]

"Thank you for bein a friend... been around the world n back again..."

Nice Pricing!

[Sentientbydesign]

Thanks Guys.

Like I said in my original thread. I try to be extremely fair. I'm now including shipping in all of the other kits (G, Z, FX). I don't make enough on these (Altima) to include shipping though, so sorry lol.

Doc,

I'll email you in a few.

[LongBeachCoupe]

Sentinent.. your not gonna pull a $20 stocking fee, and $10 shipping fee are you? JKJK...

[Sentientbydesign]

DUDE! Shut up! They're not supposed to know about that lol...totally kidding.

I'll definitely have the gunmetal gray in stock and I have a guy from the G side that looks like he's going to make me buy a spool of the matte blue as well. I was reluctant to buy it because everybody likes the neutral colors, but this stuff would look bad *** in Blake's car hehehe...or anybody who wanted some eye candy under the hood.

I'm trying to cut the shipping cost down a little. Priority mail with insurance and tracking is $12.60. If I have to go get my own boxes and quote individual shipping, we won't be saving much and I'll just be doing a hell of a lot more work.

[ADKSaad1387]

im assuming these are sedan compatible? ill most likely purchase...if the doc thinks its a good idea with all his audio. it must be a good investment

[Sentientbydesign]

Yeah I did an install on Jose3.5's 07 Sedan and Nismofool's 3.5L A/C and Daniel's 2.5L A/C.

I also did my dad's 2.5L Alti Sedan too. I can't really give you much info on what that did, because he's not into performance and doesn't care enough to monitor his fuel economy.

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

ok im confused so wat does this thing really do n u said it might bring the revs up so wouldnt that counteract the better gas mileage????

[Sentientbydesign]

Haha. Let me put it this way:

For those of you who like "Stepping" into your throttle, the engine will rev faster than without the wires. This means you get into power quicker and your car accelerates faster.

Improved fuel economy comes from the sensors having clean, theoretically noise free electricity. So, if all goes correctly, the sensors can send data faster and more accurately. This is extremely hard to gauge with the CVT because they are so finicky.

The cleaner, louder audio comes from the noise reduction and possibly more stable power. Same with the headlights.

[eight3six]

Glad to hear there close to being done. I plan on getting one off ya, but I think im going to wait till you get the other 2 points down and figured out. Keep us updated!

[itsjustbusiness]

red red red! (preferably in matte)

lol doc your credability is off the charts my friend! (refering to adksalad's post) lol you could tell people that the sky was green and they'd believe you

[BlackNWhite]

Hey Nate, I'll be in San Clemente tomorrow if you need to look at my car again.

Anyways, like Nate has said... instantly my radio sounded better and clearer. The rest is still debatable.

When I leave the parking lot of my work onto the main street... my tires chrip. They didn't do that before. I don't know if my foot just got heavier all of a sudden or what. Also... I'm at just about half a tank... and I've gone 200 miles. Usually I only do 180-190. The even better thing is that I haven't been babying it. I've been giving it lots of gas.

I'll post how my mileage is once I put in a new tank of gas.

[nismofool]

the kits are of good quality, definitely the stereo is cleaner and louder, HIDS dont seem to flicker and warm up faster. As of anything else, i'll have to tell you after i get my car back from Tein, had to drop the car off 2 days after the prototype, but great quality kits indeed!

[windhaven]

Is there a pic of an installed kit for the A/C? Would like to see it on one of the forums members cars.

Thoughts?-- Wind

[spockrock]

How difficult is it to install??

Also I would prefer to wait for the completed kit with the other two grounding points. Whats the *estimated* price difference?? I know that is subject to change and Shipping to Canada how much is that?

[Sentientbydesign]

red red red! (preferably in matte)

Honestly...that will cost you more than it's worth lol. The wires I use are used because of quality and price...mostly quality though. I just happened to find a source that had super high quality at a reasonable price.

If you guys want custom colored kits (green, purple, matte red...etc), I'll do them, but the price of the materials will be much higher for me and I'll have to pass that on to you.

Kenny, Daniel,

Thanks for the reviews. Keep us posted. Also, I will get in touch with you when I develop any additional wires and give them to you guys.

Note: I was very straight foward with the guys who are doing the testing. I asked them to be EXTREMELY honest about the improvements that the kits made. They'll also tell you that I said, "If the kits don't do anything, I won't sell them".

Daniel,

How does your bro like his kit? I thought it looked awesome!!! Have him call me when he gets a chance.

Is there a pic of an installed kit for the A/C? Would like to see it on one of the forums members cars.

Thoughts?-- Wind

Yeah, I'll add that to my list of things to do this afternoon. It's still on the camera. With the engine cover back on, you don't see much. We can "fix" that if you want the kit for show

How difficult is it to install??

Also I would prefer to wait for the completed kit with the other two grounding points. Whats the *estimated* price difference?? I know that is subject to change and Shipping to Canada how much is that?

You make it sound like I'm going to shaft you guys once the other wires are added lol.

Worst case scenario, with 2 more wires, it would be around $80. I highly doubt that it will be that high. If it is, I'll try to work in the shipping or part of it.

Canada? Hmm... I'll need your postal code. USPS will be over $25 UPS looks like I can get away with around $18, but I just put a random postal code for Toronto in, so we'll need something more accurate. I'm open for suggestions too!

Install is mostly easy. I'm talking to THE DOC about the last 2 locations. The only PITA one right now is below the intake which basically requires you to remove the air box. If you have an aftermarket intake, it gets SIGNIFICANTLY easier.

[Rolling Estonian]

what would shipping be for two kits to Toronto. Spockrock, if it's alright with you we could group ship and save $.

Could be a good project to do at the meet

[Sentientbydesign]

what would shipping be for two kits to Toronto. Spockrock, if it's alright with you we could group ship and save $.

Could be a good project to do at the meet

I need a postal code for an accurate shipping quote. That's a great idea BTW!

For those of you in other parts of the country that have an Altima buddy near by (or G35, 350Z, FX35, M35...etc), keep this idea in mind. I can probably fit as many as 3 kits in a priority flat box, which means you pay like $5 for shipping.

[LongBeachCoupe]

To save shipping.. i bet you can cram 5 kits into a $9 flat rate priority box!

Im sure it will be labeled as a "sample" for those mounties up north...

[Sentientbydesign]

I always include tracking and insurance. Regardless if you want it. So $12.60 is the price for one kit going priority domestically. The price will creep up by like $.50-$1.00 for every additional kit in the same box.

"Sample" = Priceless

[spockrock]

You make it sound like I'm going to shaft you guys once the other wires are added lol.

Worst case scenario, with 2 more wires, it would be around $80. I highly doubt that it will be that high. If it is, I'll try to work in the shipping or part of it.

Canada? Hmm... I'll need your postal code. USPS will be over $25 UPS looks like I can get away with around $18, but I just put a random postal code for Toronto in, so we'll need something more accurate. I'm open for suggestions too!

Install is mostly easy. I'm talking to THE DOC about the last 2 locations. The only PITA one right now is below the intake which basically requires you to remove the air box. If you have an aftermarket intake, it gets SIGNIFICANTLY easier.

LOL sorry I didn't think you were going to shaft you, its just if I do it, I would like to do the setup all in one shot. I have a fujita intake...w00t.....

what would shipping be for two kits to Toronto. Spockrock, if it's alright with you we could group ship and save $.

Could be a good project to do at the meet

Yeah sounds like a plan to me.

[LongBeachCoupe]

I always include tracking and insurance. Regardless if you want it. So $12.60 is the price for one kit going priority domestically. The price will creep up by like $.50-$1.00 for every additional kit in the same box.

"Sample" = Priceless

FLAT RATE PRIORITY BOXES FTW!

[Italianbulldog85]

soooooooo if when the other two spots come out can we just purchase those two wires? or should we just wait if we want those two grounding spots grounded as well?

[Sentientbydesign]

That's totally up to you. You can purchase the kit now and add on the other two when they come or you can wait. I should have all of my supplies by this afternoon or tomorrow.

If anybody wants the Matte Blue or the charcoal, I need to know soon. I'll have to order that. I will only have the gunmetal in stock this weekend.

[marlin29311]

Just curious - why doesn't the factory install better wires in the car from the get-go? It seems kind of dumb that we have to aftermarket mod the car for a minimal cost (60 bucks is nothing on a car) when they could just do it at the factory...

[Sentientbydesign]

I pulled a quick sales figure from 07. Around 285,000 Altimas were sold.

285,000x$60=17.1 Million

Now, we know they won't spend $60/car, but they have money spent on R&D, plus extra steps in installing more wires.

Even if they spent $20 in grounding, that's still over $5 million. Do you really think their investors want to see that $5 million was spent on some other option instead of going into shares?

Why are aftermarket intakes and exhaust more efficient than factory? (mostly sound lol)

[PHENOMenalVinyl]

i would def do it but im not gonna do it till its officially done....seems like a good mod

[Rolling Estonian]

Ok, so I have 3 installs this weekend and then we should have kits available by next week.

There are 4 color choices:

Matte Gray (Gunmetal)Matte Blue

These are obviously not shiny, but ARE translucent. They are the highest quality wires I've dealt with. Super flexible, very high strand count, and thicker than other 4 gauge wires (The wire industry doesn't adhere to standards like they should).

I can also pass on a decent discount with these wires, because I get them at a good price.

Translucent Black (Charcoal)Translucent Red

These are shiny. They are great for show purposes, but the strand count is lower and they are a little less flexible than the matte wires. They are also a little thinner in wire diameter.

For somer reason, these wires cost me more. The difference in final kit price is around 15-20%.

So let me know what colors you will want. I will definately have the gun metal on hand.

so approx. 20% more for red? or is this outdated?

[Sentientbydesign]

I can do the red for $65 (8.3% difference).