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I need to get a phone. The last one I had was a Virgin Mobile pre-paid in 2002


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A33 wrote:
Jesda wrote:Android is awesome for virgins.
iOS is awesome for gays.
So you're saying you're a gay virgin? :eek:
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So far, the nook is "pretty good" at everything but amazing at nothing. The Kindle was a lighter reader, the iPad was a much better tablet and entertainment device, but I definitely got my money's worth and more. I'll be even happier when Zinio is finally released on Android Marketplace.

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Jesda wrote:So far, the nook is "pretty good" at everything but amazing at nothing. The Kindle was a lighter reader, the iPad was a much better tablet and entertainment device, but I definitely got my money's worth and more. I'll be even happier when Zinio is finally released on Android Marketplace.
I still think the iPad is a cool device, I just don't have a use for a huge iPod touch still and I hate the 10" screen size. The Nook screen size is more to my liking and it's reasonably priced as well. The price is the biggest selling point for me, it does just what I would need from a tablet and doesn't offer me a bunch of crap I don't need.

How do you feel about the speed so far? My father in laws was a little laggy at first but he installed SetCPU, adjusted the clocking settings, and it's very smooth now. Also, what launcher are you using? If you're having issues with it, I can tell you how to get it working better.

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What app is it that allows you to change your buttons like that?? And what sound app is that??

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orangeNblue wrote:
RobPaulson wrote:Image

What app is it that allows you to change your buttons like that?? And what sound app is that??
Better Cut and Audio Manager Pro

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Size is one of the best things about ipad. At 7" the nook isn't much nicer than an evo, just cheaper. Ipad puts the world in your hands. Nook crops it. Just about every single thing that iOS does is more refined and more natural, but Apple charges a lot for that attention to detail. So for 50% less, the nook is a nice value-driven alternative.

There's also no Netflix or HTML5. The flash implementation doesnt work on Nook. Netflix is still a problem, even with 2.2.
http://blog.netflix.com/2010/11/netflix-on-android.html

You can get there in a Cadillac or a Corolla, but the Corolla will take you there for a lot less money.
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Opera Mini > * when stuck on edge or very weak 3G signal. It doesn't display active content, but websites load >10x faster.

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PoorManQ45 wrote:Opera Mini > * when stuck on edge or very weak 3G signal. It doesn't display active content, but websites load >10x faster.
I used to be a fan but the new UI annoys me. I'm really enjoying Dolphin.

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Eh, the UI doesn't affect anything once you get to the page you're going to. I do not understand why they made the address bar 1/4 the size though!

Dolphin is great when you've got a strong 3G or 4G/H signal. Other then that, it's painfully slow to use.

That's one thing that the iPhone has always had going for it. The browser seems to respond faster. It may load the same overall, but it seems to respond faster.

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The older version of OMini rendered faster and had a simple, quick menu that popped up for basic functions instead of the graphical slide-down nonsense.

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Jesda wrote:Size is one of the best things about ipad. At 7" the nook isn't much nicer than an evo, just cheaper. Ipad puts the world in your hands. Nook crops it. Just about every single thing that iOS does is more refined and more natural, but Apple charges a lot for that attention to detail. So for 50% less, the nook is a nice value-driven alternative.

There's also no Netflix or HTML5. The flash implementation doesnt work on Nook. Netflix is still a problem, even with 2.2.
http://blog.netflix.com/2010/11/netflix-on-android.html

You can get there in a Cadillac or a Corolla, but the Corolla will take you there for a lot less money.
See I disagree with the size, it's too awkward to use to me and I want something that can easily go in the front pocket of my laptop backpack, that's just my personal hang ups though. I will agree that iOS is always more refined and works perfectly out of the box in most cases, I wouldn't rule out an iPad if it were the right price either. I figure by the time I get ready to buy a tablet, i'll be able to have a choice of a refurb iPad as well, they're already $429 in the Apple store for refurbs so if it gets under $400 then I may be more interested in it.

Yeah they keep saying Netflix is coming, they announced Hulu Plus today so maybe Netflix won't be far behind... If you want flash, use Skyfire, my father in law uses it on his Nook and flash works with it. Barnes & Noble says flash support will be coming soon though, along with many other improvements. I like your analogy there though, I prefer the Corolla route unless I can get a good deal on the Cadillac :bigthumb:

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Skyfire kept hanging and choking when I tried it. I liked the interface though. I bet this will all smooth out when they update to 2.2.

Galaxy Tab is, so far, the best Android tablet I've ever used but holy hell is it overpriced. I'd want at least a 9" size since 7" still can't fit in my pocket.

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Hey Rob do you use launcher pro also??

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Jesda wrote:Skyfire kept hanging and choking when I tried it. I liked the interface though. I bet this will all smooth out when they update to 2.2.

Galaxy Tab is, so far, the best Android tablet I've ever used but holy hell is it overpriced. I'd want at least a 9" size since 7" still can't fit in my pocket.
Yeah I think the update is going to make quite a bit of difference for it. Give the SetCPU app a try and set it to max at 800mhz and set the minimum to 600mhz, my father in laws is set to that and it's working good. It's set to run at 600mhz stock, even though it's 800mhz. He found out about that on XDA and it seemed to take care of all of the lag he had.

I prefer Dolphin HD for my browser, Skyfire does weird things like not closing tabs when you try to close it, just putting it in the background(you may check that too, that was choking it bad on my EVO when I used it). Skyfire is a popular browser but personally i'd rather use Dolphin HD or the stock browser and live without flash support...

The Galaxy Tab is really nice, I played with one in the Sprint store a couple of weeks ago and it was very smooth and seems like a very nice tablet, until you see the price and walk away :facepalm:

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If you're using SetCPU I wouldn't set the profile that close together. That will destroy battery life. Set scaling to onDemand with a max of 800 and a minimum around 300. Then set sleep to max around 500 min 300. This will add about 1~2 hours of battery life with no increase in lag.

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A33 wrote:Yeah I think the update is going to make quite a bit of difference for it. Give the SetCPU app a try and set it to max at 800mhz and set the minimum to 600mhz, my father in laws is set to that and it's working good. It's set to run at 600mhz stock, even though it's 800mhz. He found out about that on XDA and it seemed to take care of all of the lag he had.
I read somewhere (maybe nookdevs?) that the CPU was set lower to avoid the battery overheating.

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With SetCPU you can set a profile for battery temperature. I set my phones to 50c threshold and to clock down to 128 min 356 max with a priority of 100%. This is your safety net :)

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So guys, and tina, I start my droid journey today....I have a question

As some of you may know I am severely deaf. With that being said, I have have heard that there is an app that allows someone to talk into the phone, that will translate it into written word/text. Anybody know the name of said app?

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I don't know but I've heard the same thing. I'm not sure if it was a droid phone or iphone... I'll ask luke cause he works with a guy that has that app.

Edit: Luke said, "he doesn't talk, he uses video phone and the deaf relay. some phones have speech to text, but it's kinda flakey."

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Ive heard the same about it being flakey, but if you are partially or completely deaf you can usually figure out what someone is saying as long as you can catch some of the words....................if not you bluff (fun til you get caught)

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Jesda wrote:
A33 wrote:Yeah I think the update is going to make quite a bit of difference for it. Give the SetCPU app a try and set it to max at 800mhz and set the minimum to 600mhz, my father in laws is set to that and it's working good. It's set to run at 600mhz stock, even though it's 800mhz. He found out about that on XDA and it seemed to take care of all of the lag he had.
I read somewhere (maybe nookdevs?) that the CPU was set lower to avoid the battery overheating.
I haven't seen any issues with the battery, the more I think about it though, I agree with Brien that scaling doesn't make sense although my father in law is running his at that with no issues and he gets 24+ hrs on a charge. I would set the minimum to as low as you can but still set the high to 800mhz, there shouldn't be any reason that the battery will overheat from that but if you're worried about it then download an app called Battery Indicator Pro, it'll tell you battery information including the temp.
tigersharkdude wrote:So guys, and tina, I start my droid journey today....I have a question

As some of you may know I am severely deaf. With that being said, I have have heard that there is an app that allows someone to talk into the phone, that will translate it into written word/text. Anybody know the name of said app?

Thanks
Vlingo would be what you're looking for, works very well and is free. It has tons of voice commands to control various things on the phone as well. You can write emails, text messages, make phone calls, all with voice commands or you can type the commands as well. It's a great app.

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thanks peeps. Im probably going to try Vlingo first, as it has widget, so I dont have to change the settings everytime

I will return my results in a day or so. If it works, ya'll have made communication so much easier for me
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orangeNblue wrote:
RobPaulson wrote:Image

What app is it that allows you to change your buttons like that?? And what sound app is that??
A33 is correct about the apps. and you can find the icon graphics at:
http://icons.mysitemyway.com/

however, some photoshop magic is necessary to get them to work (some of them with transparencies have very oddly colored layers) let me know if you need any help.

orangeNblue wrote:Hey Rob do you use launcher pro also??

Ya, funny thing though, last night I hit the home key on my device and it went black and said my launcher pro was out of date and needed to be updated. But I could access ANYTHING since my home key brought me to this black useless screen and i couldnt use the 'recently ran' button function because i just rebooted the device! So I had to download the new apk via browser on the device and install it manually. FFFFFUUUUUU LAuncherPro, terrible upgrade protocol.

That being said, I will continue to use LP :rotfl

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Rob, I had the same prob with LP yesterday. Freaked me out a little lol. My only gripe with Dolphin is that it takes forever to recognize that you're typing, like this post. Hopefully thats improves upon.

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A33 wrote:See I disagree with the size, it's too awkward to use to me and I want something that can easily go in the front pocket of my laptop backpack, that's just my personal hang ups though.
Exactly. I absolutely agree. I feel like the Nook is the PERFECT size. It's big enough to be easy on the eyes but still small enough to fit in my jacket pocket or just hold in my hand without feeling awkward. I just wish the folding covers B&N sells for the thing weren't so damn FAT. They add a LOT of thickness to the device, and the fold is so broad that you can't really use the thing two-handed with the cover on. My friend's kindle has a very slim, simple cover that folds back and stays out of the way. Until someone makes a thinner cover for the thing, I'm sticking with the rubber "condom" and screen protector.

The ipad is TOO big. Like the DSi XL. I want a PORTABLE device, not that goofy in-between size that's too big to be conveniently portable and too small to be worth the lack of portability.

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I used the I heart radio app to run a police scanner for mpls/st paul through my phone. I never needed to use it, but it was a ton of fun to listen to on a friday night.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:Exactly. I absolutely agree. I feel like the Nook is the PERFECT size. It's big enough to be easy on the eyes but still small enough to fit in my jacket pocket
There's no way in hell a Nook would fit in any standard pocket unless you were John Goodman with massive shirts, or unless you're stuck in the 90s and wear cargo pants. Its too big for that -- its not a smartphone. The Evo already pushes the limits of what's realistically pocketable. Anything bigger than 4.5" is "I can squeeze it in there, but I'd be a freaking goofball for doing so".

Thus, anything over 5" should just be 9-10". The Nook isn't that light either, so it would cause your shirt to sag badly in one spot and you'd look like a doofus.

The douchey Kindle ads show people slipping them into their back jean pockets. Nice way to destroy a device and scratch up an e-ink screen. You can shove a Ford Excursion into a compact spot if you try hard enough, but you shouldn't.

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I wear a leather jacket. The inner pockets are almost EXACTLY nook-sized. Not much help in the summer, but right now it works superbly.

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Jesda wrote:
MinisterofDOOM wrote:Exactly. I absolutely agree. I feel like the Nook is the PERFECT size. It's big enough to be easy on the eyes but still small enough to fit in my jacket pocket
There's no way in hell a Nook would fit in any standard pocket unless you were John Goodman with massive shirts, or unless you're stuck in the 90s and wear cargo pants. Its too big for that -- its not a smartphone. The Evo already pushes the limits of what's realistically pocketable. Anything bigger than 4.5" is "I can squeeze it in there, but I'd be a freaking goofball for doing so".

Thus, anything over 5" should just be 9-10". The Nook isn't that light either, so it would cause your shirt to sag badly in one spot and you'd look like a doofus.

The douchey Kindle ads show people slipping them into their back jean pockets. Nice way to destroy a device and scratch up an e-ink screen. You can shove a Ford Excursion into a compact spot if you try hard enough, but you shouldn't.
He said a jacket pocket though, which I have 3 jackets that I know for sure that it will fit in but there's no way the iPad would.

I agree that a 7" tablet is just the right size but 9-10" is unacceptable, I hate the iPad for that reason(aside from the pricing), and at that size I would just assume to carry a netbook with me. I would have to carry an iPad in an additional case or bag because it's too big to fit in my backpack with my laptop and it's definitely too big to pocket. That's a fail for me, I already carry a backpack with me 5 days a week with a 17" laptop(with a 12 cell battery on it), an external hard drive, mouse, and all the cables I use along with my EVO in my pocket. Combine that with the days that I have to pick up my daughter and you add a diaper bag in the mix, nope not interested. The Nook or Galaxy Tab will fit in the front pocket of my backpack with no issues at all though so it solves that issue. Now if I were to leave it at home all the time, I would say the size doesn't matter at all but if i'm spending money on a tablet, then I want it to be portable without being an extra annoyance.

Now I do agree with your thoughts on the EVO size, I do put it in my pants pocket, but only if i'm not wearing a jacket with pockets. It's not very comfortable at all in your pants pockets and I always worry about it being stuffed in there. I LOVE the screen size of the EVO but it's not the most pocketable device out there, that being said it is tolerable.


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