Air Condioner Will NOT Turn OFF

[upenzi]

Infinity, eh?

I think you need to give more thought to your "current situation."

WHY DO YOU INSIST ON f***ING WITH ME? This is ridiculous. Please, grow up!(And for the record, my spell check corrected Infiniti. I didn't even notice.)

[mtzgr777]

Just a thought.....I have no idea if this would work or not, but maybe try unplugging the battery and leaving it for 24 hours...that resets a bunch of stuff and maybe it will help you?

Just a thought....

[upenzi]

Just a thought.....I have no idea if this would work or not, but maybe try unplugging the battery and leaving it for 24 hours...that resets a bunch of stuff and maybe it will help you?

Just a thought....

Thanks. I actually tried that too. No luck. I also tried jump starting the battery but it wouldn't turn over. I've now determined that my starter is out. Crazy since that has nothing to do with the original problem LOL!

[mtzgr777]

Yea it sucks...a problem always turn into another problem....

[Infinitiguy19]

Have you checked to make sure that the starter relay is still good:



The relay is to the left to the red circle, it is blue

Maybe the Q is begging to be brought to T3 (Where Dennis AKA Q45tech works at).

[upenzi]

Yea it sucks...a problem always turn into another problem....

Always right.

[upenzi]

Have you checked to make sure that the starter relay is still good:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_QC8aSbDQ...n.jpg

The relay is circled in red.

Maybe the Q is begging to be brought to T3 (Where Dennis AKA Q45tech works at).

Hmm, no I haven't. I'll have someone take a look at it today. Thanks!Grr...that sucks because I was planning to go to T3 if the mechanic I found couldn't help. Too bad I don't appreciate the way Dennis is talking to me.

[Q45tech]

I do not work at T3, I am a technical and marketing consultant for T3 and some ATL dealers and they are kind enough to put up with me sometimes.

I'll be sure to warn all 3 shops and the 5 ATL dealers to be on the look out for you.

The customer is always right except when they are wrong.

[maxnix]

Too bad I don't appreciate the way Dennis is talking to me.

Yeah, life sucks, especially when you are stupid and have a bad attitude about knkowledgeable people who are trying to help you.

Might pay attention to join dates and, to a lesser extent, post counts although they are not Forum specific.

Members who don't know how to complete their profile shouldn't even post until they know at least that much.

[upenzi]

Yeah, life sucks, especially when you are stupid and have a bad attitude about knkowledgeable people who are trying to help you.

Might pay attention to join dates and, to a lesser extent, post counts although they are not Forum specific.

Members who don't know how to complete their profile shouldn't even post until they know at least that much.

I don't know what is wrong with you people. Why all the animosity all of a sudden? I came here for assistance with my car. Of course I know that people are knowledgeable here....why else would I come here and ask about my car?

Why are you calling me stupid? I have not one time in this entire thread not been appreciative of the advise given to me by the members here. I have been nothing more then grateful. I don't know what you are misunderstanding in anything I have said on here. Not one time have I been rude. I don't have to explain why I didn't complete my profile...it's obvious in my very first post exactly why I came here.

If this is what this site is really about, maybe I should just refrain from using the site at all. I can't see how anybody thinks it's okay to act like that with me when I have done nothing to warrant the behavior. I am an adult. I expect to be treated as such until I give you a reason to talk to me like an imbecile.

Again...Thank you!

[Q45tech]

"If you can't help the problem...how about not saying anything at all.""are welcome not to respond.""Too bad I don't appreciate the way Dennis is talking to me.""WHY DO YOU INSIST ON f***ING WITH ME?"I posted this so you know what you said was offensive.

When you ask for and are provided with FREE advice, you don't bite the hands that feed you otherwise they are liable to bite you back.

[qsiguy]

I, for one, am sorry for Brian (maxnix) and Dennis (Q45Tech). Dennis, while very knowledgeable, has somewhat of a god complex and Brian mostly just tells everyone to read all 13,000+ posts that Dennis has made and if you don't you are stupid and shouldn't bother to post at all. Clearly post count doesn't have anything to do with your knowledge and helpfulness since Brian has over 20,000 posts of which may have had a dozen or so good ones.

Don't loose faith in the entire site because of those two, they are not the friendliest to the new members. The other person mentioned earlier in this thread that is having the issue with the AC on all the time seems to have narrowed it down to a problem with his ECU which is the main "computer" for the car. His has been modified to add some performance so that may have something to do with it but we will know more after I get it back to test and inspect.

The resistor mentioned above is not likely the problem. This resistor just causes the various speeds not to work but you can still turn the AC/blower on and off. Since your battery also died I suspect the charging system and battery could be an issue. When the alternator in my '94 failed it caused some very strange anomalies. T3 should be able to check most of the common possibilities easily. The climate control display/control unit could also be a possibility. Does it appear to be functioning correctly according to the display? Meaning when you tell it to turn off does it say it's off, when you turn it on does it say it's on, etc? There are a few relays that could go bad and stick ON which could cause issues as well.

[upenzi]

"If you can't help the problem...how about not saying anything at all.""are welcome not to respond.""Too bad I don't appreciate the way Dennis is talking to me.""WHY DO YOU INSIST ON f***ING WITH ME?"I posted this so you know what you said was offensive.

When you ask for and are provided with FREE advice, you don't bite the hands that feed you otherwise they are liable to bite you back.

Perhaps you should go back and read the replies I got before saying what I said. I stand behind every word. And like I stated, I didn't do anything to warrant the attitude. None of what I said was offensive.

Notice how someone added a title of "Where are the mirrors when you need them?", "Dumber And Dumbest". I've been called stupid and you sir have told me I need to be "beaten into submission" and should go to Automotive Trade School.

If I had gone to Automotive Trade school would I be here asking for advise? ASKING not BEGGING. This forum has helped a lot of people. I thought I was in the perfect place to ask for advise with my problem. Am I mistaken? I think not.

This is getting redundant and I am not going to keep going back and forth. None of this solves anything. I can agree to disagree and move one.

As I have previously stated (several times now), I appreciate the advise. I have thanked you all and not once had an attitude about what was advised. .

And on that note...Goodnight Nico Club!

[Q451990]

Wow... this thread has gone to hell in a hurry!

All I'm going to say is that the internet (or the written word in general) doesn't allow the sarcasm that I feel sure is in some posts come through. It is absolutely amazing how much someone's "online personality" can differ from how they come across in person.

Heath

[upenzi]

I, for one, am sorry for Brian (maxnix) and Dennis (Q45Tech). Dennis, while very knowledgeable, has somewhat of a god complex and Brian mostly just tells everyone to read all 13,000+ posts that Dennis has made and if you don't you are stupid and shouldn't bother to post at all. Clearly post count doesn't have anything to do with your knowledge and helpfulness since Brian has over 20,000 posts of which may have had a dozen or so good ones.

Don't loose faith in the entire site because of those two, they are not the friendliest to the new members. The other person mentioned earlier in this thread that is having the issue with the AC on all the time seems to have narrowed it down to a problem with his ECU which is the main "computer" for the car. His has been modified to add some performance so that may have something to do with it but we will know more after I get it back to test and inspect.

The resistor mentioned above is not likely the problem. This resistor just causes the various speeds not to work but you can still turn the AC/blower on and off. Since your battery also died I suspect the charging system and battery could be an issue. When the alternator in my '94 failed it caused some very strange anomalies. T3 should be able to check most of the common possibilities easily. The climate control display/control unit could also be a possibility. Does it appear to be functioning correctly according to the display? Meaning when you tell it to turn off does it say it's off, when you turn it on does it say it's on, etc? There are a few relays that could go bad and stick ON which could cause issues as well.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain what was going on to me.

The battery actually isn't dead. Everything in the car still turns on when I turn the key. Yesterday my roomate and I tried to jump start it to test the battery but it still wouldn't turn over at all. We removed the fuse for the air conditioner (from under the hood. the one inside the car didn't stop the air). Prior to removing the fuse I did get the ON on the display minus the air coming out. When I removed the fuse from the hood, it disabled completely.

I put the fuse back where it was the next morning when the car wouldn't start. As I am more concerned now that the car won't start. I want to fix the air issue too but the craziest thing is that it won't start now. I was told from a mechanic (over the phone) that it's possibly the starter. So he's insrtucted me to get a new one and he'll replace it.

I'm thinking at this point since I'm having the turn over issue on top of the air conditioner issue that I would be safer to have the car towed (on flatbed of course) to T3. Problem is they aren't open on the weekend and I won't money to cover the expense til Saturday

It's a work in progress.

[Q451990]

Probably a dumb question, but are you absolutely sure you put the under hood fuse back in the right slot? I ran into this with the ABS once and it drove me nuts until I realized I put the fuse back one slot above or below where I took it out.

Heath

[qsiguy]

Hmm, well, I don't really have much confidence in any mechanic who, over the phone, would make a determination and suggest buying parts that he'll just install hoping that it will fix it. There are some very simple checks that can be done by a qualified technician to see if the starter is even getting power. Given that you are already having electrical "issues" I would not automatically assume a dead starter. I guess I'm old school because I troubleshoot problems where most mechanics these days just throw parts at problems.

Sorry, I got to rambling... I recommend getting it to someone that will troubleshoot the problems before making you buy parts. Wish I was closer, I'd be happy to spend a hour to greatly narrow down your problems. Sorry I can't help more. I can get into the diagrams and give you some basics to check for but you'll need to have some basic tools such as a voltmeter and various hand tools. Let me know if you want me to delve into some troubleshooting. I remember going through some detailed steps on another thread a while ago, if I can find it I will post the link. Someone else was having "no crank" issues and I went into detail...

[qsiguy]

I did find a schematic that I overlaid red on the starters voltage path. If you can verify voltage is present along this path you should be able to determine the fault. The theft relay does also interrupt the voltage to the starter relay as well which I did not highlight. If you find the voltage stops at the starter relay you would then check out the theft relay.

http://i78.photobucket.com/alb...m.jpg

[Infinitiguy19]

No offence but I think your all making a bigger case of this than it already is.

Probably a dumb question, but are you absolutely sure you put the under hood fuse back in the right slot? I ran into this with the ABS once and it drove me nuts until I realized I put the fuse back one slot above or below where I took it out.

Heath

I mirror this, compare the location of the fuses with the fuse box diagram and see what that yeilds.

Also make sure the starter relay is good, if not I have one here with you name one it (I don't actually know your name but you know what I mean LOL). Just pay the shipping $2.

[upenzi]

Probably a dumb question, but are you absolutely sure you put the under hood fuse back in the right slot? I ran into this with the ABS once and it drove me nuts until I realized I put the fuse back one slot above or below where I took it out.

Heath

Yep, I'm pretty sure. But I'll try it again tomorrow when I can see under the hood just to be certain.

[upenzi]

Hmm, well, I don't really have much confidence in any mechanic who, over the phone, would make a determination and suggest buying parts that he'll just install hoping that it will fix it. There are some very simple checks that can be done by a qualified technician to see if the starter is even getting power. Given that you are already having electrical "issues" I would not automatically assume a dead starter. I guess I'm old school because I troubleshoot problems where most mechanics these days just throw parts at problems.

Sorry, I got to rambling... I recommend getting it to someone that will troubleshoot the problems before making you buy parts. Wish I was closer, I'd be happy to spend a hour to greatly narrow down your problems. Sorry I can't help more. I can get into the diagrams and give you some basics to check for but you'll need to have some basic tools such as a voltmeter and various hand tools. Let me know if you want me to delve into some troubleshooting. I remember going through some detailed steps on another thread a while ago, if I can find it I will post the link. Someone else was having "no crank" issues and I went into detail...

I agree. I'm a little worried that if I buy the starter and it still doesn't start that I would have spent money for nothing and still have to pay the mechanic for his time.

I'm willing to try anything. I don't have a voltmeter. I do have some basic tools tho.

[upenzi]

I did find a schematic that I overlaid red on the starters voltage path. If you can verify voltage is present along this path you should be able to determine the fault. The theft relay does also interrupt the voltage to the starter relay as well which I did not highlight. If you find the voltage stops at the starter relay you would then check out the theft relay.

http://i78.photobucket.com/alb...m.jpg

I will definitely give it a shot. I'm going to see if I can catch the bus somewhere to get the volt meter. Thanks!

[upenzi]

No offence but I think your all making a bigger case of this than it already is.

I mirror this, compare the location of the fuses with the fuse box diagram and see what that yeilds.

Also make sure the starter relay is good, if not I have one here with you name one it (I don't actually know your name but you know what I mean LOL). Just pay the shipping $2.

Awesome!! Thanks. I'll be back in the morning with answers

[Q45tech]

After 45 years of dealing with women [wifes and girl friends] and their vehicles I spotted how this would end 35 comments ago.

You gullable guys amaze me.

[maxnix]

After 45 years of dealing with women [wifes and girl friends] and their vehicles I spotted how this would end 35 comments ago.

You gullible guys amaze me.

Come on Dennis, you K N O W it's all our fault!

[Q45tech]

Next some of you guys will be sending her a Western Union Money gram to get her car on the road....."wait until I have the money to fix" .

Slowly read her opening post again a few times:

"I was sitting in my car today picking my son up from school when all of a sudden my air conditioner (at the feet) turned on. The air conditioner was set to off and I hadn't even pushed the buttons. I turned it on and it blew through the vents like normal. But when I turned it off, the air continued to blow at my feet.

Does anyone know why this would be happening or how I can check the air system myself to turn it off? I'm afraid to drive it and I know the air being on is going to use all my gas."

[maxnix]

"I was sitting in my car today picking my son up from school when all of a sudden my air conditioner (at the feet) turned on. The air conditioner was set to off and I hadn't even pushed the buttons. I turned it on and it blew through the vents like normal. But when I turned it off, the air continued to blow at my feet.

Does anyone know why this would be happening or how I can check the air system myself to turn it off? I'm afraid to drive it and I know the air being on is going to use all my gas."

That was definitely some subtle humor I missed the first time.

Oh well, maybe the household appliances are the next mystery!

[Q45tech]

The following has NOTHING to do with the poster nor this thread but a great place to put it so it is read.

"The Third Affiliated Hospital of Guangzhou Medical Collage recently revealed that about 400 couples come to them each year for paternity tests, 20 percent of whom request pre-birth parental testing.

Results showed that 80 percent of the women tested had conceived through partners other than their husbands. "http://www.womenofchina.cn/Dat...5.jsp

As Regan said trust but verify

[qship96]

Next some of you guys will be sending her a Western Union Money gram to get her car on the road....."wait until I have the money to fix" .

Slowly read her opening post again a few times:

"I was sitting in my car today picking my son up from school when all of a sudden my air conditioner (at the feet) turned on. The air conditioner was set to off and I hadn't even pushed the buttons. I turned it on and it blew through the vents like normal. But when I turned it off, the air continued to blow at my feet.

Does anyone know why this would be happening or how I can check the air system myself to turn it off? I'm afraid to drive it and I know the air being on is going to use all my gas."

I read it a few times, and am not seeing what you are??? What am I missing here???

[maxnix]

I read it a few times, and am not seeing what you are??? What am I missing here???

The non sequiter conclusion?

Qship96, email me.