AEM EMS availble SOON!!!
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Structure240sx
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spitz7985 wrote:Does anyone have Tec3's site? I can't find it. Thanks.
http://www.electromotive-inc.com/
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IvanAtSPRacing
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Kamin wrote:Ivan is the EMS going to be able to retain OBDII functions?
No. The AEM will use all the factory sensors or add on sensors to run the injectors and timing. No missfire codes, no speed limiters, no fourth fifth gear BS.. All gone... You control everything instead of the computer controling YOU.
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Structure240sx
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so really this will work for any year 240, correct?
kamin- there are tricks to make your car pass emissions. you could run a high flow cat, retard the timing, and lean it out. i;ve also heard of some using alcohol in their gas tank to help with emissions. or find a place like i did that "helps" you pass
kamin- there are tricks to make your car pass emissions. you could run a high flow cat, retard the timing, and lean it out. i;ve also heard of some using alcohol in their gas tank to help with emissions. or find a place like i did that "helps" you pass
hahaha structure240, this is OBDII not OBDI. OBDII is a computer scan. thats why i asked if it retains OBDII compatability.
all they do for OBDII emissions is plug a scan tool into the computer, computer says if any CEL's are found, and if all systems are tested and deemed "ready"
if the computer dosent respond, you fail. so with the EMS there would be no response. you would fail. and just swapping the ECU over to the stock one for the test wouldnt work becaue it takes a full drive cycle for all sensors to be tested. that can take days to complete espically if you dont know what the cycle is.
i could run all the tricks in the world to make it pass a sniffer but that dosent do **** for me because they dont sniff test the car.
and finding a place that "helps" you pass isnt possible here in arizona, all facilites are state run wich means monitored by the government, wich means felony if they cheat or i bribe.
all they do for OBDII emissions is plug a scan tool into the computer, computer says if any CEL's are found, and if all systems are tested and deemed "ready"
if the computer dosent respond, you fail. so with the EMS there would be no response. you would fail. and just swapping the ECU over to the stock one for the test wouldnt work becaue it takes a full drive cycle for all sensors to be tested. that can take days to complete espically if you dont know what the cycle is.
i could run all the tricks in the world to make it pass a sniffer but that dosent do **** for me because they dont sniff test the car.
and finding a place that "helps" you pass isnt possible here in arizona, all facilites are state run wich means monitored by the government, wich means felony if they cheat or i bribe.
Kamin wrote:hahaha structure240, this is OBDII not OBDI. OBDII is a computer scan. thats why i asked if it retains OBDII compatability.
all they do for OBDII emissions is plug a scan tool into the computer, computer says if any CEL's are found, and if all systems are tested and deemed "ready"
if the computer dosent respond, you fail. so with the EMS there would be no response. you would fail. and just swapping the ECU over to the stock one for the test wouldnt work becaue it takes a full drive cycle for all sensors to be tested. that can take days to complete espically if you dont know what the cycle is.
i could run all the tricks in the world to make it pass a sniffer but that dosent do **** for me because they dont sniff test the car.
and finding a place that "helps" you pass isnt possible here in arizona, all facilites are state run wich means monitored by the government, wich means felony if they cheat or i bribe.
And this is why I'm happy I have a 95...
They stick me on the dyno and make me do it the old way. YAY!
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IvanAtSPRacing
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Latest update from AEM is that they are having problems getting the Nissan ECU socket made. They ordered a HUGE amount and were expecting the lot all at once. They are working with the vender to get like 100 sockets as a "sample" of the shipment to get the plug and play out to fill orders before the bulk shipment of sockets are sent.
I am really glad we dont have that here in South Carolina.
The ems seems to be the best thing out so far---Ivan, are you going to adjust some of the maps that you have for the masses so we can download them fro other setups --i.e 72 lbs inj instaed of the 50lb ones? or having a sc61 instead of the 50?
im using the everything except injectors and the sc50 that you have--il be running the sc61 after the motor is built.
thanks,
Josh
The ems seems to be the best thing out so far---Ivan, are you going to adjust some of the maps that you have for the masses so we can download them fro other setups --i.e 72 lbs inj instaed of the 50lb ones? or having a sc61 instead of the 50?
im using the everything except injectors and the sc50 that you have--il be running the sc61 after the motor is built.
thanks,
Josh
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Redline240
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my dad has an aem in his dsm, this is such a worthwhile upgrade, it is DEFINITELY worth the cost. also, in response to using the ems without turbo, if you are willing to pay twice for the test and tune on the dyno, yes it will work. in fact, the guys at aem took a later model s14 and made like 30 hp across the board with only an aem intake. then no one believed them, so they did it again on an s13. it was insane, like even at 1500 the torque jumped from 50 ft-lbs. to 150!
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MikeMurphy
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Dependant on the costs associated with the unit, I really think AEM is making a huge mistake with the pricing of the unit.
If their costs per unit are around $700 which I suspect they are, they would sell MANY more if they shot for around $800usd. Making a product that EVERYONE buys, considering the amount of KAs out there, seems to make sense to me. $1600USD is simple more than what MOST people will pay for mods. Obviously this is simple statistics required for correct pricing for ANY product, but I really hope that AEM considers an unusually low price.
QUESTION FOR YOU
Will the obd2 and obd1 units be interchangable besides from the plug?
If their costs per unit are around $700 which I suspect they are, they would sell MANY more if they shot for around $800usd. Making a product that EVERYONE buys, considering the amount of KAs out there, seems to make sense to me. $1600USD is simple more than what MOST people will pay for mods. Obviously this is simple statistics required for correct pricing for ANY product, but I really hope that AEM considers an unusually low price.
QUESTION FOR YOU
Will the obd2 and obd1 units be interchangable besides from the plug?
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Structure240sx
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do you really think theres any company out there that would survive with a 15% markup? they have put months and months of research and development into this. also the competition, if you want to call it that, is priced closely to what the ems will be. so the market price is already set for a good such as this. in a large competitive market you must must price your product close to others.
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Structure240sx
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no, it does not all depend on how many people will buy it at that price. marginal revenue has to equal marginal costs.
very simplified example:aem cost to make ems $700if 20 people buy the ems at $800 thats $100 profit x 20 units equals $2,000now if 5 people buy the ems at $1400 thats a profit of $700 times 5 units equals $3500
take a basic microeconomics class
very simplified example:aem cost to make ems $700if 20 people buy the ems at $800 thats $100 profit x 20 units equals $2,000now if 5 people buy the ems at $1400 thats a profit of $700 times 5 units equals $3500
take a basic microeconomics class