Adding Power folding Mirrors to the Q45

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qship96
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memory is not tied to any speed sensor.....it is inoperative when transmission is not in park.


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Infinitiguy19
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That is semi true but I plan on hooking the mirrors up to the speed sensor part of the ADP*. The ADP* Control Unit whether it be a stand alone computer (1990-1993) or part of the Body Control Module (1994-1996) recives input from the speed sensors and N and P relay*.

See what got me thinking about the speed sensor part and not the (N And P Relay). Say your going down the 1/4 track and you want fold in the mirrors because they may decrease drag a tiny bit. You would have to shift in to Neutral or Part to do so if you hook the mirrors up to that relay or input on the ADP* Control Unit.

Where as if its hooked up to the speed sensor input you can fold in the mirrors at any time when moving less than 4 MPH. thats useful if your backing out of a tight spot and don't want the mirrors to come out till your fully clear. Otherwise you would have to shift to Neutral or Park then fold the mirrors out.

So the switch show above give you three choices:

Manual control: Fold out

Automatic control: Fold in and out with signals from switch(es)

Manual control: Fold in

* Automatic Driver Postioner

* Neutral and Park Relay

Another safety feature would be to have the mirrors fold out above 5 MPH. but that would cause problems with the people that want to race there Q45's down a track....

So many idea's so little time before Nissan kills the Q45/Nissan President.

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Infinitiguy19
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Well I can't seem to find a way to make sure the mirrors don't fold in when the vehicle is in motion....

The $59 mistake?

I found the switch (http://page10.auctions.yahoo.c...34151) a long time ago and I though it was black from the picture. But when i revived and saw it, it turns out its actually brown (like the interior of a 1994-1996 Q45 Color code: P).

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh...tlink

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http://picasaweb.google.com/lh...tlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh...tlink

This is not a April fools joke!

Now all thats left is to get the mirrors.

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Infinitiguy19
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Call me an idiot, bash the idea I don't care because this will happen because I have yet to see ONE car out there with such a feature. Sure some have the mirrors hooked up to the Keyless entry....But this makes the car come alive. Well even more alive. If only i could get the headrests to go up as well and even a 5 speed, I dare you to find a better car.

I can wire up the OEM connector in 2 seconds and make that work. The connector is all plug and play and I plan to use the 1994-1996 Q45 looking face with a 1990-1993 Q45 rear connector. I shall call it the Franken-Switch.

Problem is I always want to have cake and eat it too (I need to lose weight )

I want to be able to have three settings on the switch and two already exist:

Manual fold out (Up)

Auto fold in and out (Center)

Manual fold in (Down)

Now the Auto fold in and out is the tricky part since it would have to be wired to the key switch its self or on to the Automatic Driver Postioner Control Unit. But what confuses me is that the key switch is normally open so that means when the key is out there is NO CONTACT/CONTINUITY. And the key switch receives power from a 10 AMP fuse and grounds to pin #4 on the ADPCU*, its a analog ground* too.

So how can I use the above in such a way that the mirrors close when the key is removed, hopefully at the same time that the steering wheel goes up and seat goes back?

And mind you there is less than 1.0 volt when the key is removed from the ignition. So thanks to PoormansQ45 I found out I need a relay that could multiply that voltage.

Would it make sense to use the analog ground as a trigger so when the key is removed the ground is seen. And if needed I can reverse the polarity with yet another relay to make it all work?

I know that I have to use at least one relay to open the mirrors using the key switch as a trigger.

*Analog ground: http://www.epanorama.net/wwwbo....html

*ADPCU=Automatic Driver Postioner Control Unit

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PoorManQ45
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Where do we stand on this?

Were you able to locate a relay that will trip on the <1v from the ignition cylinder circuit?

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Infinitiguy19
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Nope but I do have these pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh...tlink http://picasaweb.google.com/lh...tlink

I wish I could read the circuit board like a book, Because it looks like one.

DamianJeffrey
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Hi guys,

It's super easy to add an "Automatic" option to the Nissan Manually controlled power mirrors. You can change the switch so that the options are "OPEN" "AUTO" and "CLOSED". And, you don't actually have to change the factory switch, or do anything to anything. It costs about $5 and takes 1 hour of your time. Mostly just requires a couple of diodes and a bit of soldering. :chuckle:

Message me if you're interested to know how. I don't have a photo or diagram to post here.

Regards,

Damian

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Hi and welcome to Nico!

Do you think you can post it here so that everyone here can see the instructions instead of you having to email them to several people one at a time ;).

Thanks


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