A straightforward mod to add DRL's

[josie123]

They are white driving lights, with the yellow turn signal , the white light come on like they are suppose to they are hooked up to the ignition switch, they work fine they work just right , they are 3 wires led running lights one wire is the white light the other is the blinker light the other is a ground, when we splice the blinker wire into the blinker, turn the white light on, it then turn the blinker on it blinks a rosy color if i unhook the white light the blinker will blink yellow but only when we unplug the white lights, we dont want a swich for the lights we hooked the white ones to the ignition. what am i doing wrong.....thanks for your awesome reply fast....we found some data that says that we need a relay for this to work.....any suggestions

[johnsimon666]

I would like to know is there a wire or fuse in Nissan Rogue that will have 12V only when the engine is running unlike the fuel pump fuse that has power even before the engine is started.

[johnsimon666]

I would like to know is there a wire or fuse in Nissan Rogue that will have 12V only when the engine is running unlike the fuel pump fuse that has power even before the engine is started.

[Leo2005]

I would like to know is there a wire or fuse in Nissan Rogue that will have 12V only when the engine is running unlike the fuel pump fuse that has power even before the engine is started.

Would yellow ignition wire in steering column or blue (same idea) antenna amp wire behind the radio would work for you? If not then you can use red power wire behind the radio. It's been discussed in here. There are plenty of wires and fuses that work only when the car is running. Check the GPS installation thread for more details.

[johnsimon666]

Thank you very much for your reply Leo2005. Do you know a wire or fuse that is located in one of the fuse boxes under the air duct in engine compartment? Or somewhere else in engine compartment so I don't have to run a wire from the cabin. I checked with a volt meter but couldn't find any that has power only when the engine is running. I found plenty of them that get power once you turn the ignition switch On but not a single one that gets power only after the engine is started. My idea is to tap to this wire/fuse and connect it with the low headlight fuses as a simple alternative of the DRL system.

[Leo2005]

No problem. Why don't you tap it to one of the fuses on the picture above? Fuel pump, Throttle body, Injector etc. would work without a problems but if you afraid that your fuse will blow then install a relay to the battery to insure yourself from blowing the fuse. Also make sure to instal a fuse to your power source. Before tapping to the fuse check the voltage with voltmeter to make sure you are using the one you want.

[johnsimon666]

Thank you again Leo. I checked the fuses you mentioned but they have power even before the engine is running. Once I turn the ignition On (when the dash board indicators light up) they get power too. I am looking for one that gets power after the engine is started but doesn't have power when the ignition is On. I don't want my DRL to start before cranking the engine.

[Leo2005]

I don't remember where did I tap the wire to but I believe I used the one from cabin. It's not that hard to run just 1 wire from cabin to outside. Check out this thread to see how easy to get the wire throw the firewall: how-to-make-your-rogue-go-thump-thump-t ... 71349.html

[johnsimon666]

I was afraid you would say that I will try to run it from the cabin and let you know how it goes.
Thank you for your support.

[johnsimon666]

Found it! There is a thick white wire in the fuse box where the headlight fuses are. This wire has power for short period of time (~2 sec) when the ignition switch is On and then loses power until the engine is started. After the engine starts it powers up. I connected the low beam headlights and the tail lights to it. Now I have poor man's DRL and automatic lights together and don't have to worry about forgetting to turn on or off my lights anymore
I made a picture that I will gladly post here but I am not allowed to post pictures and have no public picture sharing server account.

[Kayebill]

Could someone explain this to me? Seems when the parking lights are off the hi beam is powered through the ground wire coming from the light and the red wire supplying power to the relay? And this will power both left & right lights? When parking lights are on ground returns to normal and everything is as if no modification was made. So is it important that this be done on the right side?

[Rusty Shackelford]

I realize that this thread was started back in 2009, but I recently came across it as my kid has imported a 2006 Frontier from the states into Canada. I have an issue with the explanation that I'm hoping someone might be able to clarify. In wjlknew's description, he states to cut the ground to the right side high beam and connect the yellow relay wire to the bundle end of the ground and the blue relay wire to the socket end of the ground . But in the schematic, the yellow to black connection goes to the LHI (which I'm assuming is the Left Hi) and the blue relay wire to black is labeled RHI (Right Hi) Is it safe to assume that perhaps the schematic is labeled incorrectly and that the 'TO GND THRU LHI' should read 'TO GND THRU RHI'? Has anyone done this mod? If so, how did it go? Thanks in advanced for any help.

[ImStricken06]

why not just get aux led lights, and use them as DRL's? does Canadian law require high/low beams only to be used?

[Rusty Shackelford]

It's not a matter of what lights are used. But Canada requires that the lights come on when the ignition is on and the car is running without having to turn anything on (except the engine) and the DLRs go off when the headlight switch is turned on. So it doesn't matter what light is used, the logistics of how they operate still needs to be figured out, hence the interest in this.

[ImStricken06]

It's not a matter of what lights are used. But Canada requires that the lights come on when the ignition is on and the car is running without having to turn anything on (except the engine) and the DLRs go off when the headlight switch is turned on. So it doesn't matter what light is used, the logistics of how they operate still needs to be figured out, hence the interest in this.

i'd make the DRL's the foglights. this way when you turn on your headlights, the foglights are on, and no one will be the wiser. this is a simple 5-pin relay module.


30: 12v from battery
85: ground
86: trigger (tap positive wire from the low beams)
87: 12v power to DRL lights (only send power when there is signal from trigger)
87a: 12v to DRL (only sends power when no signal from trigger)

hook up the ground.
get power from the battery
tap the trigger wire from the low beams
use pin 87A to send power to the DRL lights
leave pin 87 blank.

this way when the headlights are off, the relay will send power to the DRL lights. as soon as the headlights are turned on, the relay will cut power to the DRL lights.

[Rusty Shackelford]

Thanks for the information but I've become a little confused (which isn't hard to do). This is different than jklknew's original diagram and you state 87:12v to DRL then state leave pin 87 blank. The vehicle is a Frontier (I know this is a Rogue Forum) There are no fog lights on the truck so the low beams would have to be the DRLs.

[ImStricken06]

pin87 sends signal out to the DRL when pin 86 gets the signal (12v +)
pin 87A sends signal out to the DRL when pin86 no longer gets sinal (12v+)

but the above method we spoke about, wont work on your high or low headlights. you're gonna cause all sorts of issues with back-feeding current, unless you cut the lowbeam wire. i HIGHLY suggest getting aux lights like foglights or cool led lights like the owner of this forum (azhitman) did

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/instal ... ier-2.html

[Rusty Shackelford]

Hi, ImStricken. The more I thought about this the more of what you just stated makes sense. Particularly the part of the DRLs and the low beams being the same. Thanks very much for sharing your expertise.
Rusty

[ImStricken06]

Hi, ImStricken. The more I thought about this the more of what you just stated makes sense. Particularly the part of the DRLs and the low beams being the same. Thanks very much for sharing your expertise.
Rusty

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[smash209]

I like this idea, but I am confused by the wiring. How exactly does this wire the high beams on series and not parallel with out running a wire to the other bulb?