A/C a good race platform?

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generic808 wrote:Zenki, I totally agree with you. Any car can be "built" to be used in race/motorsport events. But, money does come into play. I hardly think it would be worthwhile to invest $10K-$20K to make an Altima fast. Whoever does that should've just bought a fast car in the first place. An STi would've been a good start because quite frankly, it is a beast of a machine. Probably one of the best bang-for-the-buck cars out there. A new STi could've been had for around $32K and a fully loaded Altima goes for almost as much. If I wanted speed, I would've spent the extra $2K for the STi and would've been that much more ahead. It has such great aftermarket support that the potential is almost endless. Imagine what an STi with $10K worth of mods would do?

After spending $10K+ in aftermarket parts and their Altima still can't hang with an STi will they realize they should've just spent their $40K+ and bought themselves a brand-new Boxster or something in a different class Maybe a nice pre-owned M3
Totally disagree with you....

For the STI... the performance is good, but the quality of the car is cheap .. when i sat in it, felt like siting ina cheap car that had cheap plastic panels on the inside... All the money was invested in the performance and not the looks and interior quality

For the Boxter...i can get a used on for less then 30g ... but i live in a city with lots of snow...and driving a porshe is not the best idea, unless i have a second car...which means i have to spend more money

The A/C wins in the overall. Looks nice, decent performance, good quality, and can be driven well in all seasons


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generic808 wrote:Zenki, I totally agree with you. Any car can be "built" to be used in race/motorsport events. But, money does come into play. I hardly think it would be worthwhile to invest $10K-$20K to make an Altima fast. Whoever does that should've just bought a fast car in the first place. An STi would've been a good start because quite frankly, it is a beast of a machine. Probably one of the best bang-for-the-buck cars out there. A new STi could've been had for around $32K and a fully loaded Altima goes for almost as much. If I wanted speed, I would've spent the extra $2K for the STi and would've been that much more ahead. It has such great aftermarket support that the potential is almost endless. Imagine what an STi with $10K worth of mods would do?

After spending $10K+ in aftermarket parts and their Altima still can't hang with an STi will they realize they should've just spent their $40K+ and bought themselves a brand-new Boxster or something in a different class Maybe a nice pre-owned M3
You the man. Couldn't agree with you more. I just hope more people would open their eyes and jump on this bandwagon.

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For those who have commented about the STi, have you ever driven one? Seriously, if you have, you'll know what I mean. The STi is a BEAST!! One of my good friends has one and we used to always open it up going over the H3, and boy did they baby fly!! I can't even explain how exhilarating it is to open one up. Please head to your nearest Subaru dealership and take one for a spin. I guarantee your stand on the Altima being fast will change.

Now don't get me wrong, the Altima is pretty fast, but for those trying to compare it to an STi are straight up whack!! I love my Alty and I wouldn't give it up for an EVO or STi, but when it comes to speed and racing, which this thread originally evolved from, the Altima can't even hang!

AWD 2.5L intercooled flat four pushing the car to a 0-60 time of 4.7 seconds and blasting through 1/4's at 13.2 seconds!! Now tell me that's not fast?

13.2 seconds is much, much faster than a 14.8 seconds, and even adding a turbo might not get the Altima up to STi times. A 1.6 second difference in the 1/4 is probably about 12-15 car lengths!


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rjdmmfl1 wrote:Found these stats while rummaging the net...

1/4 mile times for various stock cars...

2003 Infiniti G35 coupe ........14.6.......100.1,ph2008 Altima coupe.................14.8.......96.9mph2007 Lexus Sc 430................14.8.......96.3 mph2003 Infiniti G35 Sedan........14.9.......96mph1995 Ford mustang Cobra.....15.12.....96 mph2002 Acura RSX (typeR).........14.92.....96.5mph2001 Audi TT Roadster ..........15.00....90.8 mph

Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm impressed with the A/C... just my .02

Modified by rjdmmfl1 at 5:38 PM 12/16/2007
Autos , Sticks ........... to vague same temps sameday same track .......... get the point ?

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Hussain wrote:i love the 06-07 STi and i know they can be really fast but (don't want to sound stupid here) can't a V6 VQ35 take more then a 2.0 4 banger? the new STi is one of the ugliest cars ive seen in a long time, a pinto looks better.... the Evo X, theres a lot of talk that it sucks and the Evo 9 is better. my car is a 3.5SE A/C with CVT (they didn't have any manuals at the time) and it was $25,000 before tax and license fees. the 2007 STi is $33,000 before tax and license fees. that's $8,000 difference. the Artisan Turbo kit is $4,500. say you need a LSD and a couple other things. it will come out to AROUND $8,000 (maybe more, maybe less, depending on which route you take). that Turbo kit is pushing 448whp which is around 550 hp (no one corrected me when asked if my conversion was correct so im assuming it's correct). so i mean, a beautiful A/C with 550 hp or a ugly *** STi (im talkin about the new one, which will probably cost even more) with a little over 300 hp. i mean i'm sure you can go and spend more money into either car and make them even faster for a race car but if you do then it will be a track only car and in that case just buy a C5 corvette for around $25,000 and twin turbo it lol
Hussain, you say the total for parts will be around $8K. You have to consider the labor cost for installation. Unless of course you can do it yourself? If not, you're looking at a couple grand for installation.

Bottom line is, the Altima was designed as a family car. The VQ is a great motor which won Ward's 10 best engines for 13 years straight. There's no denying that the Altima is a great car; that's why I have one. But simple fact of the matter is that it is a family car. All I'm saying is if you want strictly speed, you should've went with a different car and it would be faster. Just popping a turbo onto the Altima doesn't even guarantee that it'll even match up next to an STi or EVO. And has anyone taken into consideration that your WARRANTY WILL BE VOIDED should you turbo your car? And not too mention the very high cost of modifying your car like this and all the headaches incured throughout the process.

Like I stated before, if all you want is speed, dump the Altima and get a car that was designed for that. I really don't see where these other arguments are stemming from, I'm just speaking the truth.

Speed = STi or EVO hands downDaily driver, nicer car = Altima

PERIOD.


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well that's your opinion even if you write period in caps

I say it's time to add another mod in the forum, one who loves his car like a dad loves his child, one that believes his child could have the world if he wanted to. I know generic loves his car but, I don't think he want's it to be anything more than a daily driver, and Shift_coupe doesn't seem to want to defend much his coupe...

what do you guys think about that? is a new mod on the team a good idea?
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leeroy300 wrote:
Autos , Sticks ........... to vague same temps sameday same track .......... get the point ?
this was cut and pasted from a site that listed stock times.. they didn't get more specific, and neither did I. Of course these were taken from different reviews, w/ different drivers on different tracks...

it's not a holy grail, wasn't meant to be, just a point of reference!

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mcheddadi wrote:well that's your opinion even if you write period in caps

I say it's time to add another mod in the forum, one who loves his car like a dad loves his child, one that believes his child could have the world if he wanted to. I know generic loves his car but, I don't think he want's it to be anything more than a daily driver, and Shift_coupe doesn't seem to want to defend much his coupe...

what do you guys think about that? is a new mod on the team a good idea?

Modified by mcheddadi at 2:24 PM 12/17/2007
We certainly don't need anyone with your mentality as a mod.There's a different between loving your car and being crazy to the point of impracticality, illogical assumptions, and flawed arguments. Can you discern between the two?

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mcheddadi wrote:well that's your opinion even if you write period in caps

I say it's time to add another mod in the forum, one who loves his car like a dad loves his child, one that believes his child could have the world if he wanted to. I know generic loves his car but, I don't think he want's it to be anything more than a daily driver, and Shift_coupe doesn't seem to want to defend much his coupe...

what do you guys think about that? is a new mod on the team a good idea?

Modified by mcheddadi at 2:24 PM 12/17/2007
what is this, a mutiny? Eric is cool, he may be the only sedan moderator here... and you want to oust him because he doesn't agree wih your point of view... real talk mcheddadi, I like the fact that you're opinionated, but you could be the one getting the boot... ya dig... just be easy man, we know you LOOVVEE your car, but in the end, it is just a car. Not a super car, not a race car, just a nice car!

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rjdmmfl1 wrote:but in the end, it is just a car. Not a super car, not a race car, just a nice car!
I've been telling him that over and over. He just can't get it or refuses to accept it. One of those people that buys a car worth $30k and keeps telling everyone that it's better and faster than anything else. "Mine is best! Mine is best!"

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rjdmmfl1 wrote:
what is this, a mutiny? Eric is cool, he may be the only sedan moderator here... and you want to oust him because he doesn't agree wih your point of view... real talk mcheddadi, I like the fact that you're opinionated, but you could be the one getting the boot... ya dig... just be easy man, we know you LOOVVEE your car, but in the end, it is just a car. Not a super car, not a race car, just a nice car!
I didn't say I want to oust him, I want to join him so I can better support and encourage people who think like me

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mcheddadi wrote:
I didn't say I want to oust him, I want to join him so I can better support and encourage people who think like me
That's the thing. Not many people think like you. And you wouldn't be very supportive.

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lets find out! I'll make a pool

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It cracks me up how people on these forums debate over the stupidest things. It's a difference of opinion. Agree to disagree and move on. I agree that you could have definitely bought a faster car for the money if speed and hp are your number one priority. However, if someone wants to take the time, effort, and money to turn (or even just dream about it)their coupe into a STI/EVO killer, I say more power to you and good luck! I'm sure the same people knocking the performance guys would be some of the first ones interested and reading the post of the guy who pulls it off. So, can we please move on now?

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Pool made

and I'll move on as soon As i know the outcome of the pool. yeah it looks like a stupid debate, but its tiresome to always have people bringing down others when what they say is legitimate

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Well my mod rush just calmed down hehe

that was a fun weekend (plus one monday) lol! Peace out everyone

oh and thanks Tyler for the nice response in the email you sent
Modified by mcheddadi at 7:34 PM 12/17/2007

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yes i agree you can get a better sports car for the same price BUT not all of them look as good on the outside or inside. like i stated before about the new STi being the ugliest car i've ever seen and the interiors (STI and Evo) not being the greatest. i mean ya STi is cool and all (i like them) but spend over 30K? just buy a 03-04 Cobra mustang and put a couple thousand into it and kill everything on the road and a lot of cars on the track too. it would be way cheaper to make a 03-04 cobra mustang fast then it would to make an STi. but why do so many people buy STi instead of the Cobra and mod it? some people like its looks, some people don't like domestic cars, the list could go on forever. STi isn't the cheapest to make fast, i mean for AROUND the same price you could have something like this

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-....html

doing 11's in the 1/4 mile. it's basically the same situation except the STi is the Cobra Mustang and the A/C is the STi. so if people choose to mod a STi over a 03-04 Cobra mustang, why can't we mod our A/C without people discriminating against the A/C and making it sound like a base RSX is faster?

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HI guy,s this is the first time i post in the forums but i wanted to give my 2 cents and that is that my a/c when pushed it pushes back and i like it know as for it being a racing platform why not

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Zerep wrote:HI guy,s this is the first time i post in the forums but i wanted to give my 2 cents and that is that my a/c when pushed it pushes back and i like it know as for it being a racing platform why not
First off, welcome. Secondly, what did you say? I honestly could not understand your sentence.

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Hussain wrote:yes i agree you can get a better sports car for the same price BUT not all of them look as good on the outside or inside. like i stated before about the new STi being the ugliest car i've ever seen and the interiors (STI and Evo) not being the greatest. i mean ya STi is cool and all (i like them) but spend over 30K? just buy a 03-04 Cobra mustang and put a couple thousand into it and kill everything on the road and a lot of cars on the track too. it would be way cheaper to make a 03-04 cobra mustang fast then it would to make an STi. but why do so many people buy STi instead of the Cobra and mod it? some people like its looks, some people don't like domestic cars, the list could go on forever. STi isn't the cheapest to make fast, i mean for AROUND the same price you could have something like this

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-....html

doing 11's in the 1/4 mile. it's basically the same situation except the STi is the Cobra Mustang and the A/C is the STi. so if people choose to mod a STi over a 03-04 Cobra mustang, why can't we mod our A/C without people discriminating against the A/C and making it sound like a base RSX is faster?
I am going to show my Subaru side here. Coming from the Subaru community I get the STI. I have driven them and I love them. I would like to point out that the USDM STi and STI have always been a 2.5 liter turbo. Never a 2.0 liter engine. But the closed deck 2.0liter STI motor in Japan has been made to produce 400hp Japanese STi's. 400-horse power out of a scrawny horizontally opposed 2 liter turbo from the Factory. I get that... And the potential that the horizontally opposed 4 cylinder Subaru engines have is very good.

Also, coming from the Subaru Impreza community, I have seen what guys do to their STI’s. I have seen different setups, paradigms for modifications and the versatility that the car has. Guys auto cross them, drag race them and rally them. I think that you are very one sided in your analysis between the STI and the Mustang. There is a lot more to racing than just drag racing.

Also, the amount of parts that are available from speed shops, race shops and Subaru are immense and a lot easier to find than for an Altima. You can get parts from Japan, Australia and Europe. And the thing I love about the Subaru’s is that a lot of the Subaru OEM parts from cars on other continents are interchangeable. If I had to choose between buying an STI or an Altima Coupe for a racecar… the choice would be obvious. AWDSport Compact ChassisAlready comes turbo from the factory

I bought my Altima for a reason. And I love my Altima, but if I had the chance, I would buy the 2008 STI in a second. Subaru has a motto about the STI, “Its more than a car, It’s a culture.”

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From: Drive Performance Magazine

2008 SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STIJapanese version shown.arrows SUBARU TECNICA INTERNATIONAL INSPIRES A TECHNICALLY SOPHISTICATED, THIRD-GENERATION SUBARU PERFORMANCE FLAGSHIP.

LONG-AWAITED AND THE SUBJECT OF CONSIDERABLE SPECULATION SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE 2008 SUBARU IMPREZA IN APRIL, THE WRX STI VERSION WAS UNVEILED AT THE 40TH TOKYO MOTOR SHOW 2007 ON OCTOBER 24. IT’S SCHEDULED TO REACH DEALERSHIPS IN EARLY JANUARY 2008. STICKING TO ITS MOTORSPORTS ROOTS, THE NEW 5-DOOR STI WILL SERVE AS THE FOUNDATION FOR SUBARU RALLY AND OTHER MOTORSPORTS TEAMS AROUND THE WORLD.

EXTERIOR HIGHLIGHTSSTYLING, EXTERIOR FEATURESAltogether, the WRX STI has a more aggressive attitude than other Impreza models – from the bulging fenders surrounding 18-inch wheels to the large rear gate spoiler.

At the front, the mesh in the STI grille is repeated in the bumper where available multi-reflector fog lights are mounted. Ahead of the wheels, air discharge vents enhance the intercooler’s cooling performance.Along the sides, front and rear fenders are more pronounced than on other Impreza models, and they’re connected by a unique side sill. The front fenders have functional side vents that help to cool the intercooler and engine.

At the rear, the large spoiler at roof level not only improves the car’s aerodynamics (which provide zero lift) but helps make the STI recognizable.

Other exterior features include:* Fin-shaped wiper blades that improve performance at higher speeds* Pop-up headlight washers* Electronic rear gate switch* Dual gas hood dampers* Cherry-red badging replaces dark pink

BODY/CHASSISBased on the Legacy platform, the new body has a better balance of rigidity. Selected junctions in the structure are reinforced with the intended results of providing a quality ride (reduced vibrations), precise control, improved stability, and enhanced protection in an impact. High-strength steel completely surrounds cabin occupants as the Ring-shaped Reinforcement Frame.arrows MECHANICAL HIGHLIGHTSENGINE

Subaru has improved one of the world’s best engines for the new STI, enhancing performance, improving fuel efficiency, and reducing emissions.

Most notable, perhaps, is the addition of Subaru Intelligent Drive (SI-DRIVE), which effectively gives the STI three engines in one. SI-DRIVE regulates the engine control module and Electronic Throttle Control in three settings:* Intelligent (I), for smooth, efficient performance driving* Sport (S), for all-around performance driving* Sport Sharp (S#), for maximum driving performance

(For more on SI-DRIVE, see the Summer 2007 issue of Subaru Drive magazine at http://www.drive.subaru.com.)

Other engine highlights include:* A larger intercooler with a new high-efficient, cross-flow design, which improves performance* Dual Active Valve Control System (DAVCS), which varies both intake and exhaust camshaft timing for enhanced low-end torque and high-rpm horsepower, for improved fuel economy, and for reduced emissions * Iridium-tipped spark plugs with square positive electrodes, for reduced emissions and better fuel economy * Cast-iron exhaust manifolds and high-efficiency catalytic converter, which improve emissions as well as performance * A high-flow fuel pump, which improves performance and fuel economy * A high-flow, low-restriction exhaust system with stainless-steel quad tailpipe outlets

DRIVETRAIN

Improved features and new ones make the STI even more fun to drive.

Modifications to the 6-speed manual transmission improve shifting smoothness and durability. Changes include:* Triple cone synchronizers and modified synchronizer chamfer for first and second gears* Carbon cone synchronizers for fourth, fifth, and sixth gears* Reduced shift friction in the synchronizer sleeve for improved shift feel* Revised gear ratios to optimize the engine’s performance characteristics

The capabilities of the Driver Control Center Differential (DCCD) AWD system have been expanded. Along with six manual settings, it has three automatic modes:* Automatic – center differential lock-up controlled by the Transmission Control Module* Automatic Minus – less center differential lock-up for driving on high-traction surfaces* Automatic Plus – more center differential lock-up for driving on low-traction surfaces

(Read more about the basic DCCD system in Drive Performance Version 1.2 at http://www.driveperformance.subaru.com.)

Other mechanical additions for 2008 include:

* Incline Start Assist – momentarily helps prevent the car from rolling backwards when starting on an uphill grade* Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) system (stability control) with three modes: o Normal o Traction o Off* Brake Assist

(Read more about VDC in the Online Exclusive for “2008 Subaru Impreza” in Fall 2007 Drive, at http://www.drive.subaru.com.)

(Also, see an application chart here for tailoring SI-DRIVE, DCCD, and VDC to preferred driving habits and/or road conditions as part of the Online Exclusives for this article.)CHASSIS

Front and rear suspension systems feature lighter weight in the front and a completely different design in the rear.

Reduced unsprung weight in the front improves handling and stability.* The front suspension’s aluminum L-arms are 2.2 pounds lighter than the previous design* Box-section front crossmembers eliminate the need for a front subframe, reducing weight* The rear suspension’s double wishbone design incorporates a subframe, which helps isolate road noise and shock from the passenger cabin for a quieter ride* Rear bushings are tuned to reduce noise, vibration, and harshness

Both front and rear wheel track are wider than the WRX – 1.3 inches in front and 1.5 inches in back.

Eighteen-inch wheels and tires are standard – 5-spoke wheels with 245/40 R18 93W Dunlop SP Sport 600 summer tires.

Brake system features include:* Brembo® brakes with black calipers carrying STI logos* Ultra-low expansion brake hoses, which provide more positive brake feel and pedal strength* Improved power brake booster* Rear calipers increased in width from 35 mm to 45 mm to improve clamping force and overall performance

INTERIOR HIGHLIGHTS[imghttp://www.driveperformance.subaru.com/pics/ve ... terior.jpg[/img]New interior features improve comfort, convenience, and safety.COMFORT/CONVENIENCE

Select new standard and available features:

* A tilt-and-telescopic steering column* Standard STI-design electroluminescent gauges* Steering wheel-mounted cruise control and audio controls* Bottle holders molded into the doors* Black leather-trimmed seats with gray Alcantara®1 inserts, as well as Alcantara trim on the door panels* Standard 60/40 split-folding rear seat* Aluminum front door sill plate inserts* Aluminum pedal covers, including footrest* Front center console with illuminated STI badge* Standard SRS Circle Surround Automotive™ audio2 with 6-disc in-dash CD changer* Audyssey MultEQ®3 audio technology, which provides optimal sounds for all passengers in every seating position – standard on all models with navigation* Available navigation system with Bluetooth® capability

SAFETYNew features:* New side-curtain airbags (SRS)4* Clutch pedal included in the safety pedal system, which helps to reduce foot and leg injuries in a frontal impact

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ya thats right, i was thinking of the Evo when i said a 2.0. the Altima Coupe can be a race car BUT if you're talking about track only then i totally agree that there are better cars out there (i'd take a 03-05 cobra mustang for a track only car any day) BUT if you want to have a car for both road and track, i don't think it's a bad idea to fix up the Altima coupe. the A/C looks better then the Subaru inside out. don't get me wrong, i like the exterior of the 06-07 STi but i think the A/C looks better then the 2008 STi and the A/C has a better interior. the Subaru DOES have more potential then the A/C because so many parts are available but when it comes down to it, how much power can you have on the road? if you want a nice car for road and track i think it would be nice to have a fixed up A/C but for track only, i only recommend it if you're sponsored or a millionaire that REALLY LOVES the A/C.

i see what both sides are saying and my personal opinion is that if you want a car for both road and track then yes the A/C would be good because it has potential and anything with more power (800+ hp because some modified VQ's have around 800 hp) shouldn't be on the road.

if you want a track only car, go with a 03-04 Cobra mustang or a 240sx with a LS1 in it for drag racing. if you want something for circuit and maybe drag also, get a used C5 corvette and twin turbo it or supercharge it.

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I think someone has said this before and I will say it again. Any car can be made into a 'race car.' It depends on what you want to do with it (what kind of racing), how much you want to spend and what you will have to overcome (structurally) to do it. Go to an Auto Cross or a One Lap of America event and see all the crazy cars people pull bring to race.

Can I ask a serious question and I am not attacking you. Have you modified cars in real life? Its one thing to speculate and theorize on what would be good and bad to modify, with no practical real world experience. Its another thing to have personal knowledge of chopping up your daily driver, potentially voiding your warranty in the process, d!ck around with parts because they don't quite work the way the manufacture said and pumping way too much money into a car to only look back and see all the money you spent.

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honestly no BUT my brother's have and many of my friend's have. one of my friend's is a mechanic with a 98 Mustang. he bought a 98 automatic V6 mustang in 98. changed the transmission to manual, supercharged it, sold the motor, dropped a V8 in it, modded the V8, and just supercharged it now. my other friend (his brother) went through 3 Mustangs and moded all of them too. i haven't personally moded a car but many people around me (friends and family) have and i'm thinking about doing some stuff to my A/C. i don't expect it to be the fastest car at the tracks cuz thats impossible, but i do want to make it fast enough to beat everything i come across on daily bases and beat some cars at the track (i don't expect to turn the A/C into a 9 sec car).

yes people have said you can make anything fast and that is what i am getting at. the A/C is a VERY nice car. it looks beautiful inside and out and it has an amazing engine (3.5se). so if you can make anything fast, why not make a beautiful car fast?

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After reading this entire thread, my point makes sence, but it may be a bit off topic...

With all this talk about being faster/better then the next, I just couldn't help but remember my "first flame" in one of the other altima forums when I posted a question about my 1st gen when I first got it.

I simply asked about how to go a practical way to make my car faster, and instead of getting direct advice I got stipid flaming post about it being an Altima, "if you want a faster car you should have bought one!" and there was one to the effect of, "Stupid newbs, dont know anything but how to ask stupid questions"Which lead me to say, I just want to make my car, mine... it's never going to be the fastest, but faster then stock, is fast, if not fast enough... more power then stock is more power.

So for what it's worth, how much of a race car do you want? are you trying to take it to a track? or are you just trying to improve on what is already a nice car?

Bottom line, this car is what it is... and it will be what you make of it.

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Briefly reading through this entire post. I see valued arguments on both sides. "yes" the Altima coupe can be a "race" vehicle with the right modifications, tunning and lots of $$, but so can a 92 geo metro if you really wanted it to be. But through the eyes of Nissan and probably most after market manufacturers the A/C will probably be a sleek coupe, with some decent power for its class. So in the end probably not much tunning options. Why Nissan has the 350z, G35, G37, and of course the GTR. These are all race based platforms, designed to be fast from the factory, and have whole lot of after market options.

Again power to you if you turn your A/C into a Sti killer or even a Cobra Killer. But there is a point in every car were it goes from a reliable street car, to a unreliable track only car. I know this from experience. My car before my Altima Coupe was a 1994 Toyota Supra with a fully built motor and drag transmission, single turbo upgrade, full ecu overhaul... the works, and this was my daily driver. Yeah I smoked STI's, Mustangs but as a for daily driving this was not a practical car at all. Gas was mileage was horrible, got attention from every cop in a 10 mile radius, on a rainy day traction was horrible, and seems like every stop light every 16 year old in there civic would want to race me. This was one of the main reasons why I sold my Supra. But if you would like to turn your altima coupe into this type of race driven machine, good for you. Just be aware its going to cost a lot of money since there is not going to be a whole lot of after market options, and kill your reliability most likely voiding any warranty you might have.

On a side not just got a call this morning from the dealer, my car was unloaded off the delivery truck and will be ready to sign all the paper work this wed. Was stuck in finals and work all day today so haven't had a chance to check it out but I will be there bright and early tomorrow morn. Don't think I am going to get any sleep tonight.

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I dont think it could be said better than how Flypinoy457 put it. bud

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I said that when i when i push that thing the call an accelerator it goes faster than my previous cars (xj8, volvo s40, benz 320, and acura Rl) granted these cars are heavier, but like i said thats my two cents.

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mcheddadi wrote:
I say it's time to add another mod in the forum, one who loves his car like a dad loves his child, one that believes his child could have the world if he wanted to. I know generic loves his car but, I don't think he want's it to be anything more than a daily driver, and Shift_coupe doesn't seem to want to defend much his coupe...

what do you guys think about that? is a new mod on the team a good idea?

Modified by mcheddadi at 2:24 PM 12/17/2007


Mcheddadi, and you're this "other mod"? I hope that's a joke because it's hilarious! Thanks for making my day

When you can contribute more to this forum than I can, I'll gladly step down.


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generic808 wrote:


Mcheddadi, and you're this "other mod"? I hope that's a joke because it's hilarious! Thanks for making my day

When you can contribute more to this forum than I can, I'll gladly step down.
Whatever, I didn't say I wanted to replace you, but thx for not understanding!

anyways just let this thread die already


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