600 Hp Daily Driver

[Zippy69]

LMFAO Thats some funny shlt spooled.I calling BULLSHlT Until I see some video of this here 600hp ground pounder.It's real easy to type in a high performance car. It's a little more difficult to actually build it.Things are a bit different outside the cyber-world.OP, you got all bent out of shape when anyone questioned your plans or ideas. You forget that most of the folks here already own a turbo KA. And they know what it takes to get serious hp from a KA. Ivan's KA is making a touch over 700hp. This is a professional built engine, so when you jump up and casually say you are building a 600hp street KA, we are a little bit skeptical.Build it, video it. Then post back and say, " I told all you Bishes!!!". Then you will get the respect you think you deserve. Until then you are just another newbie who has big dreams, but no real world knowledge. Now my rant is over. I feel better now, them meds are kicking in. I'm starting to slurrrrrr

[srblacks131]

I second that

[S14eva1]

If he is looking for 600hp.....just throw in an LSx or 1j/2j and call it a day,much easier route IMO

goodluck either way

[rx-007]

Anything is reasonable with a buttload of money. Well if you want some real power through in a 13brew.

[GEO]

LMFAO Thats some funny shlt spooled.I calling BULLSHlT Until I see some video of this here 600hp ground pounder.It's real easy to type in a high performance car. It's a little more difficult to actually build it.Things are a bit different outside the cyber-world.OP, you got all bent out of shape when anyone questioned your plans or ideas. You forget that most of the folks here already own a turbo KA. And they know what it takes to get serious hp from a KA. Ivan's KA is making a touch over 700hp. This is a professional built engine, so when you jump up and casually say you are building a 600hp street KA, we are a little bit skeptical.Build it, video it. Then post back and say, " I told all you Bishes!!!". Then you will get the respect you think you deserve. Until then you are just another newbie who has big dreams, but no real world knowledge. Now my rant is over. I feel better now, them meds are kicking in. I'm starting to slurrrrrr

strcture had a pretty reliable 550rwhp street car

[S14eva1]

Here you go....this shood help back up my statement

I'm positive you can have a 500-600hp 240sx for under 7k going this route(not including car)

11 sec stock turbo 1jz/s13http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrzInfcu-Nk

405hp stock turbo 1jz/S14http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

2jz/s14'shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

[Zippy69]

I never said it could not be done. I know it can. And I never mentioned the money.I was just pointing out the fact that the OP was just throwing around "600 HP daily driver"like it is as easy as just typing it out on the keyboard. I'm not really blasting the guy, I'm just saying that there are plenty of Ka-t owners here that know how hard it is to make that kind of streetable hp. Last year I sold an 84 Regal with a built 455 pushing well over 900hp.A great track car, but it was a big PITA to drive on the street. Granted, I could not turn any boost down (non turbo) but still it was streetable.If you have driven an s chassis with 300hp, then you know that in itself is a handful. Personally I would never want a 600hp street car. I may push mine to 450 but I doubt it. I have the money and the know how, just not a real desire to try and control 600hp on the street. Besides, this thread is not about whether or not it CAN be done, but rather WILL it be done.

[spooled240]

84 regal? haha isn't that old grandma's grocery-getter?

[usdm_180sx]

Ok ive put together all the things I need to make this achievable I just have a few questions about the ecu.

Ok im going with a Enthalpy ecu tune but ive read that with this much power and the 850cc injectors im going to be running I am going to need a stand alone ECU like e manage. Is this true or will the Enthalpy ecu be enough.

If you want the parts list I can put it up.And yes before you ask i will have the money I just got a high paying job.

Why the hell do you need 600whp for a daily driver? Completely POINTLESS. FAIL.

[S13CoupeLover]

But it's supposed to be a 600 hp DAILY DRIVER! lol which is it gonna be?600 on the street would be retarded IMO, wayyyyyyyy too much power not enough everything else

that's true... .

[Zippy69]

84 regal? haha isn't that old grandma's grocery-getter?

Yeah it was! lol But it was one badazz grocerygetter! Neck snapping torque and plenty of comfy room.Plush seats and power windows. FTW!

[S14eva1]

Why the hell do you need 600whp for a daily driver? Completely POINTLESS. FAIL.

lol....tell that to the guy ridding around in a 600hp 911 turbo,Corvette or Supra

[kornaz]

Lol. You guys either crushed his dreams, or pissed him off and he left to some other 240 forum, where all the ppl will be like "Yeah dude, do eet!!1!on!" or "Fckin sick, do it man right away, all the parts are perfect!!1!". Hahaha. And then he will be back to tell that he blew the engine before reaching some 400 hp.

[srblacks131]

did this happen yet?

[nwmrkt]

I have a pretty easy question to offer...let take engines out of the equation.

other cars like supras, vettes etc...what makes them alot better to push big power? (600+). Is it the chassis? whats the difference between our s-chassis and theirs? in general?

[Zippy69]

No, this most likely won't happen. The OP is probably a high schooler who read a few import tuner mags and decided to post about his dreams.If you can build it, then build it. I'll cheer for you if you do. I'm a KA-T superfan.But don't get on here and post how you are going to do such and such.Do it then post up,"So I made 600hp on the dyno today."I'll respect that. Hell, I can make a post on how I'm gonna run 1 turbo per cylinder on my car, but that don't make it so.

[usdm_180sx]

Driveability. 600whp will require an ems with serious hi res fuel and ignition maps. It will need all supporting mods and will need to be professionally dyno tuned. cars lose traction at over 300whp so awd will also be needed.

What's the difference between a 500whp supra and an 800whp supra? NOTHING because at that level traction SUCKS. 600whp is mainly for egotistical purposes.

[Zippy69]

^^^Your car is sexy. Kinda makes me want to touch myself. But awd isn't needed, just a well set up suspension, and a driver who is accustomed to that kind of power.

[240 GTR]

some very beefy tires out back couldn't hurt either

[S14eva1]

I have a pretty easy question to offer...let take engines out of the equation.

other cars like supras, vettes etc...what makes them alot better to push big power? (600+). Is it the chassis? whats the difference between our s-chassis and theirs? in general?

Well believe it or not the fact those cars are heavier and have better aero dynamics(except the supra) makes them better suited for high hps and better stability at higher speeds.Light cars are great for road racing and drag.And yes 400whp can be a hand full in a 2700lb 240sx for an unskilled driver.

I just dont get why people want to have crazy high hps in a small car when is not needed.I mean it has been proven it can be done,but I just dont get why guys think they need 600hps in a 240sx just because the next guy did it.These are machines....the more stress(motor) you put on them the shorter the life span,everything has its limits.So unless you plan on building a drag car I say go for it and throw all the power you want and hope it hooks up.

btw:the porsche and supra are over 3600lbs

another example:the SL73 v12 Benz makes over 700 ft lbs of tourqe but weighs over 4000lbs and still manages a 0-60 in 4 sec or less.

[nwmrkt]

Well believe it or not the fact those cars are heavier and have better aero dynamics(except the supra) makes them better suited for high hps and better stability at higher speeds.Light cars are great for road racing and drag.And yes 400whp can be a hand full in a 2700lb 240sx for an unskilled driver.

I just dont get why people want to have crazy high hps in a small car when is not needed.I mean it has been proven it can be done,but I just dont get why guys think they need 600hps in a 240sx just because the next guy did it.These are machines....the more stress(motor) you put on them the shorter the life span,everything has its limits.So unless you plan on building a drag car I say go for it and throw all the power you want and hope it hooks up.

btw:the porsche and supra are over 3600lbs

another example:the SL73 v12 Benz makes over 700 ft lbs of tourqe but weighs over 4000lbs and still manages a 0-60 in 4 sec or less.

exactly what i thought just wanted to confirmthanks

[Kaforlife]

yeah my buddy has a z28 with close to 400 and it spins tires all through 1st and 2nd . So traction will be the biggest problem

[spooled240]

i think it has a lot to do with more more cylinders/ displacement turbo v8's push 1000hp, theres 1000hp supras too 3.0l inline 6...supras are light I hear!!! like less than 240's i thought idk...

[spooled240]

nvm, they are pigs...but they can pound out mad hp

[eDmSiL80]

nice set-up ur plannin on runnin. Im also from south jersey as well, im in the process or building my 240 with a ka-t for drifting. Im only going for a 350-450hp range tho. Kinda going off topic real quick but what clutch and flywheel would u need for the z32 transmission onto a ka motor? Would anything from competition clutch work? I was also looking at the xccessive manufacturing ka to vg adapter kit, does their kit come with a driveshaft? Sorry for all the questions, but hope to see your build go well and see the car sometime. Take care.

[WDRacing]

I've been away for awhile...so I'll try not to get to serious with you guys.

The OP wants a high hp S chassis. So do I, so do a lot of people on here. STOP saying its stupid. Just because you don't want one doesn't mean he can't have one. Any further STUPID comments like that will be deleted.

600 daily driven hp only means he's capable of making that much power on a car he uses as a daily driver...not hard to grasp fellas. Ivan runs 9's and drives his car on the street, care to say all this to him?

The OP was getting agitated because you guys DID NOT READ his friggin posts.

In the end the only thing we succeeded in doing was driving a potential member away from Nico because he has plans bigger then yours.

One of my first posts on Nico many years ago was how to build a 600whp or some such number KAT. Are you guys saying I don't know what I'm talking about? My post count at the time was under 100, does that mean I was stupid? Maybe he will, maybe he won't build this car...but he doesn't deserve all this negativity in the mean time.

If any of you had actually driven a high hp car down the 1320 you'd know how fun it is.

WD

[Brandon93240]

I'll second you on this one Wd. I remember when I got out of american muscle and into imports(longer than some members are alive on here, lol). I remember when I made 380 hp with the 13 back when Chris May, Duy, and John lee were all running their RSpec turbo kits(if you've ever heard of rspec than you are definetly old. Needless to say I didn't get on nico when it first came out because I still used 240sx.org alot. People thought you were full of ****e back then for saying you had 380 hp but seeing the car run at baytown made alot of people stfu. If the op wants a nasty setup we should all help out with suggestions as to what it takes partwise and money needed to get him to that point. The dude came on here for some answers about what it should take, and even put a decent list together for a newb so he did do some research and he only deserves straight facts. No one knows how much money he has so just because alot of folks on here are brokeasses doesn't mean everyone else is. Even if it is a dream, its his dream. Good luck with your build and don't be shy to post on nico, just pass over the retarded comments.

[Slideways^Jordan]

Not gonna cut it lol. You need 1, possibly 2 steps colder.

Exactly my man Gtr pryde new just what i was thinkin when i saw you said you were going to use NGK 7 thats a no for your Turbo combo if you ran those 7 plugs you would be choking you GT35R realy bad at least get the NGK 8's idk if their are 9's or 10's available. IDK

NGK 6 =stockNGK 7 = light mods for under 300hpNGK 8 = 300+hp heavy mods

[eazye2000]

NGK 6 =stockNGK 7 = light mods for under 300hpNGK 8 = 300+hp heavy mods

Just wanted to 'hopefully' clear this up. From what I remember, heat range '5' is stock. And some people use the '6' for mild builds. But then the highest/coldest I've seen is a '7'. Which is what I use.

Anyone else want to confirm this? This is all for the KA motor, right? Because I've seen them go up to heat range '9' for the RB's, but not the KA's.

[BoostedNismoNJ]

nice set-up ur plannin on runnin. Im also from south jersey as well, im in the process or building my 240 with a ka-t for drifting. Im only going for a 350-450hp range tho. Kinda going off topic real quick but what clutch and flywheel would u need for the z32 transmission onto a ka motor? Would anything from competition clutch work? I was also looking at the xccessive manufacturing ka to vg adapter kit, does their kit come with a driveshaft? Sorry for all the questions, but hope to see your build go well and see the car sometime. Take care.

Yes the kit comes with a driveshaft

You can use and Z32 clutch and flywheel

Ummmm about the remarks of me being a newb yea im not ive built a 10.9 dsm before and a 11 second hatch so I know what im doing.

And for the rest of you helping me and not saying im an idiot thank you for the support ill keep you posted.