42 Mph Over Ticket!

[s13EastTN]

That is the truth ^^

[Onizuka]

AH, more affermation that young people deserve higher insurance rates. I dont care if its stereotyping, its generally true. All you have to do is sit at a corner near a highschool and your guarenteed to seen a bunch of kids driving thier cars like idiots.

I hope you learn a lesson, its going to suck not being able to drive for the next 1-4 years

[Bunta240]

You better have a good lawyer. And if you dont feel remorse for this, you better be a good actor. If I was a judge and got excuses on why you were speeding, itd only piss me off more, and thats the last thing you want to do with a judge.

[PhaneSoul]

i wasnt driving my car, i was driving my mom's 2001 ford windstar, and i have been alot more careful, ive kept the speeding down quite a bit.

[klorocks]

i wasnt driving my car, i was driving my mom's 2001 ford windstar

even worse

And yeah, Jspec is right, proof youngsters need higher ins rates. Even though it sucks. We were all there once, well most of us.

Hell, i got caught doin 110 in a 55, cop was cool though. Havent been pulled over for speed since, and that was years ago.

[Bubba1]

Hmmm, 2 tickets at age 16? Well, quite a start for a newbie driver.I'm afraid your mother will likely bear the brunt of your immaturity as I suspect her insurance rates are going to climb sharply. I believe you owe it to her to be completely honest about it. I also feel sorry for her, not you. Your problems were self inflicted. I'm happy you didn't kill someone. I hope you learn from the experience to slow it down.

[bcar240]

You've probably heard this option already, but you should at least consider it. Go ahead and break it too your mom, cause she is gonna find out when the insurance triples. Then you should consider getting a lawyer if at all possible. For such a serious offense you probably don't want to leave it up to your arguing skills and the mood of the judge (I am assuming you want to fight the ticket.) You might get lucky enough to have some sort of community service, but a HECK of a lot of it. Many states automatically assign an additional ticket(s) to going over a certain speed or going a certain amount over the posted limit, but it appears that you were lucky enough to escape these (if "luck" can be used to descibe your situation.) Lawyers are usually very good at getting things worked out, at least a lot better than the average person is, so things will turn out better for you. If you get hit with the full ticket, I don't see how you would be driving again for about a year or so (most states are very hard on teen drivers.)

[SilviaS14KA24DE]

i wasnt driving my car, i was driving my mom's 2001 ford windstar, and i have been alot more careful, ive kept the speeding down quite a bit.

LOL it doesn't matter if it's your or your mom's car. It's your license and you're the one driving it. Therefore, your responsibility whatever actions you take with any car.

we're not trying to scare you or put you down, but hopefully you have learned your lesson, and with this lesson can come big consequences.

[PhaneSoul]

i was sayin i was driving my moms cuz sum 1 said going that fast in a stock 240 is bad cuz of brakes, and itll be my insurance going up not hers right?

[Onizuka]

If your on your mom's plan, thats the plan that goes up. You could probably bargin with her to let you pay the increase in exchange for not getting a bonefied parental asswupin

[AZhitman]

As a member of the "100mph Desert Freeway Blasters" I agree with ALMOST all of this (^) except for the part about PD pursuit driving...

I've spent many an hour in a trainer Crown Vic learning advanced vehicle control, escape and evasion, pursuit techniques, etc. Those guys can do things with a fat domestic slob of a car that most folks can only dream of. And oftentimes, the collisions they are involved in are because 1) it was a pursuit intervention technique that succeeded or 2) some moron failed to yield to an emergency vehicle as required.

[wangless]

too much to read and not sure if its been posted already. but isnt going over 100 or so a TWO point offense ?... i think my friend got written up for that, "exhibition of speed"

[Bubba1]

I love everybody complaining and *****ing about "you could have killed somebody or yourself"...you know what, you're right! But you know what? Some of the most dangerous drivers out there are the police...at 100mph +, they are extremely dangerous. Ever looked into HOW many cop cars have been wrecked in your city for negotiating a turn too fast, or speeding to get to the seen of an accident etc... They get so excited with their lights and sirens that they often don't pay enough attention to the road...and in return, your taxes go up to pay their insurance and new car costs.

Most EVERYONE goes over 100mph...I do it daily. Am I dangerous at that speed? I would have to say not...was I dangerous when I was 16? For a while I was...but then again, for a while I wasn't. Until you've driven in the car with him and know his ability or inability to drive a vehicle...please stop lecturing him. For all we know you're the worst driver in the world and at 60mph you're dangerous....SO KEEP THE SPEED DOWN PLEASE, 60MPH IS JUST TOO FAST.

"Everyone goes over 100mph"?. You must live in a pretty remote area. In the northeast, there are very few people that go over 100mph regularly. Is driving 100mph on a 55/65 mph public road reckless and dangerous? YES!!!! Gimme a break. This kid is just 16, already has two speeding tickets, one of them seriously fast in a borrowed minivan. Very safe top conclude he's a poor driver at this point. He can certainly improve, but that will require a change in his attitude. And as far as cops being poor drivers, bear in mind cops have far more training than the average driver. I think you need to focus more on the people the cops are chasing than the cops themselves. They're doing a difficult, dangerous job. I know several cops, and they're all excellent drivers. And as far as being qualified to lecture this kid about driving foolishly, based on my experience, I am as qualified (if not more) to lecture him about it than you.

[PhaneSoul]

"Everyone goes over 100mph"?. You must live in a pretty remote area. In the northeast, there are very few people that go over 100mph regularly. Is driving 100mph on a 55/65 mph public road reckless and dangerous? YES!!!! Gimme a break. This kid is just 16, already has two speeding tickets, one of them seriously fast in a borrowed minivan. Very safe top conclude he's a poor driver at this point. He can certainly improve, but that will require a change in his attitude. And as far as cops being poor drivers, bear in mind cops have far more training than the average driver. I think you need to focus more on the people the cops are chasing than the cops themselves. They're doing a difficult, dangerous job. I know several cops, and they're all excellent drivers. And as far as being qualified to lecture this kid about driving foolishly, based on my experience, I am as qualified (if not more) to lecture him about it than you.

I dont have 2 speeding tickets, and i dont wanna be lectured about the way i drive, i am a rather good driver for my age, even some of my friends taht are 19 and 20 say im good for my age, ive been around fast drivers and street racing for the three years ive lived where i am. it just happens in this case i was cought in a speed trap, it wasnt my bad driving that cought me, it was the fact that i was going over the speed limit and it so happens a undercover cop that had a laser that was part of a speed trap cought me. Now as for the insurance, my mom n her bf pay theirs for their 2 cars its 1000$, on the other hand i pay my seperate one its 1300 6 months we all are under the same insurance co. is it likely mine and my moms is gonna go up, or just my mom's?

[SilviaS14KA24DE]

IF you are under your mom, meaning she is the primary insurance holder, and put your name under hers, then her, her bf, and your insurance will balloon, thats why my dad put me on my own insurance, so if I get in a big accident, or lets say speeding tickets, his insurance won't go up, and if an accident occurs and the people sue me, i have nothing they can go after.

it would be a wise decision to switch insurance under your own name. well if you still can. even if you still can't, you should do it anyway.

[PhaneSoul]

yea i was gonna do that after the 6 months is up n e ways

[flohtingPoint]

The way I see danger here in AZ:

Me driving 100, 120, 140...safe, because the cars I drive are equipped to do so and can handle those speeds...as I am also very comfortable driving those speeds.....

Old lady driving 50mph, 55mph, 60mph...can't see worth ****, doesn't look over her shoulder, and as I'm wizzing by at 120, she pulls straight into me...no turn signals either.

In the majority of high-speed accidents I've seen....people walk away, in the majority of 40-60mph accidents I've seen, people die. Please do us all a favor and drive atleast 85. =o)

P.S. Speed doesn't Kill.....stupid drivers kill and blame it on speed.

Speeding in Phoenix shouldnt even be considered speeding. I used to fly up the 10, 202, 51, and 17 at like 90+ daily (same goes for the majority of the drivers out there). Only time I see cops is when I head near the papago mtns or into tempe, then the cops erupt from nowhere. Anywhere in the Ave's is pretty safe =)

I was actually more scared to drive on regular roads than the highways/freeways, what with all the dumb photo-radar they got going on. Scottsdale is a warzone filled with that stuff =/

[SilviaS14KA24DE]

oh yeah! you guys have the 10 fwy also:ylsuper I should visit then LOL one of the easiest roadtrips.

[PalmerWMD]

I also go over 100 at least a couple times a week.

just getting the right merge spot vs 85 mph flow of traffic needs 100 mph most times.

Fred..

[PalmerWMD]

For what ist worth:

A freind of mine In Germany drives his older ( but in good shape ) MB at 113 mph (180 km/H) daily to shorten his ( 2 am) commute home.Yes commute, cruise is set at that speed.

Fred..

[Bubba1]

I dont have 2 speeding tickets, and i dont wanna be lectured about the way i drive, i am a rather good driver for my age, even some of my friends taht are 19 and 20 say im good for my age, ive been around fast drivers and street racing for the three years ive lived where i am. it just happens in this case i was cought in a speed trap, it wasnt my bad driving that cought me, it was the fact that i was going over the speed limit and it so happens a undercover cop that had a laser that was part of a speed trap cought me. Now as for the insurance, my mom n her bf pay theirs for their 2 cars its 1000$, on the other hand i pay my seperate one its 1300 6 months we all are under the same insurance co. is it likely mine and my moms is gonna go up, or just my mom's?

Do you honestly think 2 moving violations (of which one is a speeding ticket for 42 mph over) in less than a year of driving makes you a good driver? If that's good driving, I'd hate to see what you consider bad. You clearly do not have significant driving experience at age 16 or a good driving record to be considered a "good " driver by any stretch. That is not to say you can't BECOME a good driver. But that will require a change your attitude. And until you're willing to admit that you need to change your attitude about your driving, (which I'm assume will require a suspended license in order for it to sink in), lecturing will be futile.

As far as insurance goes, it depends on the policy, the insurance company, and the state you live in. If it's a completely separate policy, then perhaps only your premium will jump. If it's under the same policy but listed separately, your mom may get nailed. Best person to answer that question accurately is your mom's insurance agent.

[Bubba1]

Yes, I will agree that "driving skills", which is the ability to control one's car in different situations, is not technically related to the number of tickets. BUT, a "poor driver" can easily be measured by the number of tickets. Multiple tickets indicate repeated breaking of traffic laws. They don't issue tickets for good driving. So yes, you can have good driving skills and still be a poor driver. At age 16, Phane has not yet accumulated any significant driving experience to be considered skilled. And the poor judgement he displayed in driving 42mph over the speed limit in his moms minivan and the fact that this is not his first moving violation in less than a year of driving makes it very easy to conclude that he is currently a poor driver. I hope that makes sense.

[Jstyal]

A lil while ago i was going 102 in a 60 on an interstate, im 16, do have insurance with a license, duh, my friend said im going to get my license takin away, this is my 2nd moving violation, first was a no registration (got pulled over coming back from the inspection), does anyone know if i actually WILL get my license takin away?

Hey PhaneSoul,

One thing you have to look at is the ticket description too see if the officer is charging you with wreckless driving. If he/she is, then you are typically looking at a misdemeanor charge that you will--it is highly reccomended that you do--have to fight in court. Remember, it is up to the prosecution though to prove that you were an impending danger to other motorists on the road to justify such charge. Otherwise, they will not be able to find you guilty.

If you are simply being charged for speeding, then you are just looking at points taken off your license and fines.

In both scenarios under your ciccumstances, however, you will not have your license suspended. You need to accumulate about 3 wreckless driving charges in a specified period of time to get your license suspended. Likewise with the speeding tickets, you need to accumulate a certain amount of points in a specified period of time to have your license suspended.

Make sure you at least get a free consultation with an attorney that specilalizes in moving violations so that you can get briefed on the specifics of the law that apply to you.

Besh wishes on a succesful defense. =)

[PhaneSoul]

Yes, I will agree that "driving skills", which is the ability to control one's car in different situations, is not technically related to the number of tickets. BUT, a "poor driver" can easily be measured by the number of tickets. Multiple tickets indicate repeated breaking of traffic laws. They don't issue tickets for good driving. So yes, you can have good driving skills and still be a poor driver. At age 16, Phane has not yet accumulated any significant driving experience to be considered skilled. And the poor judgement he displayed in driving 42mph over the speed limit in his moms minivan and the fact that this is not his first moving violation in less than a year of driving makes it very easy to conclude that he is currently a poor driver. I hope that makes sense.

Well hey, i didnt kno my first ticket, fail to provide registration, made me a bad driver, im sorry, i was only coming back from the inspection office. im sorry, next time ill make sure i SAFELY put my tags on next time

[PhaneSoul]

Hey PhaneSoul,

One thing you have to look at is the ticket description too see if the officer is charging you with wreckless driving. If he/she is, then you are typically looking at a misdemeanor charge that you will--it is highly reccomended that you do--have to fight in court. Remember, it is up to the prosecution though to prove that you were an impending danger to other motorists on the road to justify such charge. Otherwise, they will not be able to find you guilty.

If you are simply being charged for speeding, then you are just looking at points taken off your license and fines.

In both scenarios under your ciccumstances, however, you will not have your license suspended. You need to accumulate about 3 wreckless driving charges in a specified period of time to get your license suspended. Likewise with the speeding tickets, you need to accumulate a certain amount of points in a specified period of time to have your license suspended.

Make sure you at least get a free consultation with an attorney that specilalizes in moving violations so that you can get briefed on the specifics of the law that apply to you.

Besh wishes on a succesful defense. =)

TY, thats the exact info i was looking for, least sum ppl are healpful on this forum

[Phax]

Well hey, i didnt kno my first ticket, fail to provide registration, made me a bad driver, im sorry, i was only coming back from the inspection office. im sorry, next time ill make sure i SAFELY put my tags on next time

Ahhhh, I so fondly remember the days of being a smart *** punk, know it all kid.

[PhaneSoul]

im not implying im a know it all, i never said that and i dont think i ever lead up to it, if i knew everything then i wouldnt of started this thread. smart ***, yea sure, but hey, who isnt.

[deCksy]

well at least you're not in cali... if you were 16 and still under the 6months provisional... and this is your second moving violation... i'm sure they would provoke your license til you're either 18 or 21. eek. just learn from your mistake and drive smart... and if you do speed try to keep it under the 3 digits.....

[PhaneSoul]

ive had my license for about 10 months, so i hope i jus hava pay a fine and get points i dont want to spend extra money hiring a loiyer, crap forgot how to spell it, is there any way i could take to someone before the court date for free?

[Nathan]

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