350 loser?

[cory2081]

Well, the RX-8 did win the Mach 1, 350Z, RX-8 comparo in Car and Driver. Just what is that bar in the hatch of the Z other than an obstruction and a place for everyone to see that the car is a Z?? If that's a strut bar, it's overkill. Don't take bad criticism of the Z as a bad thing. Just maybe Nissan is listening and just maybe they'll put more effort into making an even better Z.

[TrunkMonkey]

the 350z looks like a big bullfrog.

-demetrius

[cory2081]

the 350z looks like a big bullfrog.

-demetrius

ROFL!!!! I couldn't have said it better myself!! What an accurate description!!

[AREITU]

ROFL!!!! I couldn't have said it better myself!! What an accurate description!!

Your car looks like a Camry.

[hatebobbarker]

its made in japan, i saw the first boat they came in on, thousands of beautiful "Zeds".and dont they run the same time as the m3 as well?, thats gotta say something...

[EZcheese15]

its made in japan, i saw the first boat they came in on, thousands of beautiful "Zeds".and dont they run the same time as the m3 as well?, thats gotta say something...

Made in Japan, but designed in the U.S.

[hatebobbarker]

oh yeah that parts true in the good ol OC

[spec-u-later]

I wouldn't take anything this guy says to heart. This is the same guy that compared and ran an R34 against a McLarin F1. Does that seem a little lopsided or is it just me.

[EZcheese15]

When did he run an R34 vs. an F1? I know he drove both, but I swear they were two different episodes. I don't remember him "comparing" the two cars vs. each other. I mean, heck, performance wise, NO street car compares to the F1.

[Sil40_Mayhem]

When did he run an R34 vs. an F1? I know he drove both, but I swear they were two different episodes. I don't remember him "comparing" the two cars vs. each other. I mean, heck, performance wise, NO street car compares to the F1.

there's a video that starts out with him saying "What you are about to see is the difference between a really, really fast car and a McLaren F1". however, in this particular vid, it's an R33 GT-R (i have it, btw).

[AREITU]

I wouldn't take anything this guy says to heart. This is the same guy that compared and ran an R34 against a McLarin F1. Does that seem a little lopsided or is it just me.

That was a totally stock R33. It caught the Mclaren off the line though. But seriously, there's this video of a ~600hp Supra getting it's *** handed back to it by a stock McLaren. By one second in the 400m, which is a foot or two off from a quarter mile.

When did he run an R34 vs. an F1? I know he drove both, but I swear they were two different episodes. I don't remember him "comparing" the two cars vs. each other. I mean, heck, performance wise, NO street car compares to the F1.

The McLaren F1 has a curb weight similar to an Integra. About 2500 pounds. It has twice the horsepower, thrice the torque, a very favorable weight distribution. Gordon Murray was so anal about saving weight, he told Kenwood to stuff it when the radio unit weighed nearly 40 pounds. Kenwood came back later with a better unit that weighed only 19 pounds. Your sig kicks ***, by the way.

[hatebobbarker]

i love those cars

[cory2081]

Your car looks like a Camry.

I'll be the first to admit that. The headlights, side markers, and blinker placement are almost identical. Doesn't change the fact that Car and Driver said the 350Z looked like it was on a KFC diet.

[C-Kwik]

When did he run an R34 vs. an F1? I know he drove both, but I swear they were two different episodes. I don't remember him "comparing" the two cars vs. each other. I mean, heck, performance wise, NO street car compares to the F1.

That includes the price tag. The new Carrera GT is looking like a bargain compared to the F1. It's less than half the price.

[hatebobbarker]

I'll be the first to admit that. The headlights, side markers, and blinker placement are almost identical. Doesn't change the fact that Car and Driver said the 350Z looked like it was on a KFC diet.

do you pick all your cars based on magazines, all you do is quote the damn things, youve said you like the G35 and not the 350z. Coincidentally pretty much every magazine prefers the g35 to the "zed."

you like the STi almost as much as the cobra, and hot rod magazine said they were split down the middle on which was better.

btw car and driver also picks the focus, which is by all rights a POS in an infinite number of ways

[cory2081]

No, I dont pick my cars by magazines. Everytime I state my opinion, someone throws some magazine article in my face. So, now I fight fire with fire so to speak. I get my opinions and pick cars from experience, then I see what the Magazines have to say. The only reason I'd be split between the Cobra and the STi is because the price is so close as is the performance. I love the way both cars look. Don't get your panties in a wad just b/c alot of people are disappointed in the Z. I'd just like to see Nissan work harder and do better.....they'll have to do just that if they want a nice slice of the market in the U.S. I know there will always be buyers for the Z just b/c it's a Z, just like people will always buy the Vette and other icons for the same reason. If a car gets bad reviews by so many people....something must be wrong. Nissan......we all know you can do better!! As for the Focus, well, I'm not all that attracted to it. You have to admit that for such a young car, it has come a long way fast. That engine is pretty strong, it isn't unheard of for a turbo SVT Focus to have 500+ horses. Not to mention, the car does well on the course too. It's a bargain at $20,000 if you like egg shaped cars and strange looking interiors.

[cory2081]

P.S. Why does everyone always bash Ford on these forums. It seems most import car drivers hate Ford, especially the Mustang. Why not pick on the Sunfire or the Cavalier?? or the Z28 and Trans Am?? Or even the new GTO that is nothing more than a Holdon Commadore with GTO stitched in the seats?? Which, by the way, was supposed to hit showrooms last summer......what's the hold up, GM????

[hatebobbarker]

1. if the z sucked so bad, i wouldnt see 5+ a day already2. ford sucks, last ford to have a good rep was the 5.0 and it didnt have a good rep for reliablity just being blindingly fast.3. ford ruined mazda in america4. i checked out every ford at the LA auto show, the quality was easily inferior, when i closed the doors to the new f150 the entire truck shuddered.5. unlike mustangs, camaros and corvettes are actually fast and not pretenders, and although i would never buy one nothing beats a corvette at the price.6. most importantly, we dont talk **** on those cars to you because you compare nissans to fords, so we tell you why ford sucks.7. you are the ONLY person to my knowledge to love the look of the impreza but not the 350z.8. STi is faster and cheaper, ESPECIALLY on the street (AWD pwns) according to you thats all you care about, but youve said earlier that youd still take the ford9. why does nissan need to do better, the 350z is a beatiful car(subjective but the majority is with me) and performs admirably in any type of competition10. howd you know i was wearing panties?

[Onizuka]

Alot of us dont pick on any car make.

I think the 350Z made a HUGE impact on the low cost sports car segment. Your pointing out weight, why is it that nobody picks on the ford GT that weighs 3600 lbs, or the Mercedes mcClaren that weighs in at about 2 tons? I agree that the 350 could bear to lose a few pounds and improve interior quality, but what sells the 350Z is its looks and performance. Call it ugly if you want, there will always be nay-sayers.

[Nismo_Freak]

The only complaints I have about the STi are as follows:

1. You can't hear the turbo2. The seats suck

Apart from that it is a beautiful piece of machinery.

[hatebobbarker]

it only has one shade of bluei need more shades of blue to choose from

[Nismo_Freak]

No, a true limited sports car needs to have limited colors IMO.

Java Black > *

[hatebobbarker]

have you seen the gold flakes in thatjeez, it looks like a hot import nights car, in a good way

[C-Kwik]

P.S. Why does everyone always bash Ford on these forums. It seems most import car drivers hate Ford, especially the Mustang. Why not pick on the Sunfire or the Cavalier?? or the Z28 and Trans Am?? Or even the new GTO that is nothing more than a Holdon Commadore with GTO stitched in the seats?? Which, by the way, was supposed to hit showrooms last summer......what's the hold up, GM????

I don't like Fords because of the reliability factor. Actually, I find GM products have problems too. But I've had to fix more problems on the one Ford my dad owned than all the problems of the 2 GM products my parents currently own(one is sitting on jackstands as I type) and the GM truck my dad owned for more than 20 years. And to be fair, I'm not a big fan of Chrysler/Dodge reliabilty either. My parents owned a few of these as well.

As far as the new GTO, it is posting some impressive numbers. Too bad the car can't do anything but go straight. The handling stats are simply pathetic.

[AREITU]

Alot of us dont pick on any car make.

I think the 350Z made a HUGE impact on the low cost sports car segment. Your pointing out weight, why is it that nobody picks on the ford GT that weighs 3600 lbs, or the Mercedes mcClaren that weighs in at about 2 tons? I agree that the 350 could bear to lose a few pounds and improve interior quality, but what sells the 350Z is its looks and performance. Call it ugly if you want, there will always be nay-sayers.

The Mercedes McLaren has charisma, it's gorgeous and very few people question exotics like that. It's also more GT than ultimate sports car. The Ford GT weighs 3600 pounds because it's all bling right there, but to tell you the truth, the 360 Modena weighs around 3200, IIRC. I think the interior of the 350Z is just fine. The textured plastic, AC vents, etc. I think complaints about interiors should really be directed to the G35. My '03 Accord has better buttons and small interior details than the G. I'd buy a 350Z because nothing has the charisma, and performance, for the same price. A BMW 330Ci would cost enough to move me up to the G35 which would come with more equipment for a lesser price. A 325i is slow enough to make me not want to get one. My soundtrack would be 289 horses and the sultry exhaust note. Or I'd get an RX8 just to piss all you guys off. :pface They had to cost cut, but at least they didn't make it anywhere as obvious as say GM. The materials might not be up to your exacting, Audi-like standard, but they sure as hell look a lot better than the dashboard of an F-Body. I think it's called "style." But some people don't dig the new-retro look that all the car manufacturers seem to be moving towards these days. The new Rustang is a mishmash of a bunch of old mustang cues.

I'll be the first to admit that. The headlights, side markers, and blinker placement are almost identical. Doesn't change the fact that Car and Driver said the 350Z looked like it was on a KFC diet.

It still dosen't change the fact your car looks like a Camry either. :POr the fact that...The zenki S13 looks like a pigThe Ford GT looks like a amateur rehash of the GT40The Mercedes McLaren looks like a bigger SL65The Holde...Pontiac GTO looks like a Holden MonaroThe Saab 9-2 looks like an ImpretzelThe SRT-4 looks like a Pikachu if you get one in yellowThe McLaren F1 had no peer until now, ten years later

[ss240]

boo to you americans!

ZED not ZEE

:P

[AREITU]

The new Carrera GT is looking like a bargain compared to the F1. It's less than half the price.

You'll get close to a mil after lisence, taxes and registration. The McLaren F1 is more practical, but it's unobtanium anyway. It all depends on how you think about them and such. How I see it is, the McLaren has had no real competition until now.

The Enzo, Mercedes McLaren, Carrera GT, and most notably, the Veyron 16-4, along with various other ultra and hyperexotics from small companies that hand build each one. Pagani, Edonis, Koenigsegg, et al. Remember, the McL was built over TEN YEARS AGO and hasn't had a worthy competitior UNTIL NOW. Also, It's all inherent goodness, too. It's light, dosen't need any crazy electronics to augment it (like the Carrera GT, which has no stability control program). It's all-natural, organtic fun. None of the new guys seem as practical, or as detailed as the McL, but they are all as unique as each member of an ethnic rainbow family which makes the game all the more intresting.

I think the Bugatti 16-4 will take the new title as the absolute ultimate road car when it comes out. We'll see.

[hatebobbarker]

NEVARGordon Murray will remake the mclaren and it will be the fastest car EVAR!!!!

[cory2081]

1. if the z sucked so bad, i wouldnt see 5+ a day already2. ford sucks, last ford to have a good rep was the 5.0 and it didnt have a good rep for reliablity just being blindingly fast.3. ford ruined mazda in america4. i checked out every ford at the LA auto show, the quality was easily inferior, when i closed the doors to the new f150 the entire truck shuddered.5. unlike mustangs, camaros and corvettes are actually fast and not pretenders, and although i would never buy one nothing beats a corvette at the price.6. most importantly, we dont talk **** on those cars to you because you compare nissans to fords, so we tell you why ford sucks.7. you are the ONLY person to my knowledge to love the look of the impreza but not the 350z.8. STi is faster and cheaper, ESPECIALLY on the street (AWD pwns) according to you thats all you care about, but youve said earlier that youd still take the ford9. why does nissan need to do better, the 350z is a beatiful car(subjective but the majority is with me) and performs admirably in any type of competition10. howd you know i was wearing panties?

1. I havn't seen a 350Z in this area in over 2 weeks.2. The 5.0 was not the fastest GT ever made, the '99-'04s with the 4.6 with PI heads (260HP) ARE. The 4.6 is WAY MORE reliable than the 5.0.3. That's why the RX-8 beat the Z in all the magazines.4. Nissan's build quality isn't all that great. My '99 GT went over 130,000 miles with no problems, still had the stock clutch, and my timing chain didn't make noises.5. Mustangs lack the displacement that the LS1 powered GM cars have. The 4.6 has more HP per liter than the LS1.6. Did you graduate?? You need an English class.7. You must not have many friends.8. Stop it with the MSRP, go to a car lot and compare the ACTUAL price. The Cobra is faster on the street, STi has no top end power. The STi doesn't have a radio, the Cobra does.9. Admirably isn't good enough. It needs to smoke the competition.10. B/C you type like a girl

[victim_of_a_down]

This thread is getting out of hand. Typing like a girl? :rolleyes Someone please restrain me.