32 students killed in shootings at Virginia Tech!!!

[elwesso]

This is truely a tragedy in american history.... its so weird when you sit back and think about it, how I did just exactly the same thing that these 32 students did.... Get up for class, go to class, and not return to your dorm room that evening? Thats messed up.

My condolences go to those who were directly or indirectly invovled.

Do we have any NICO members attenting VT that were possibly effected.?

[corey240]

they are discusing the lockdown policy and the guy is all hesitant because they dont have one!

[corey240]

damna guy called him out! said so doesnt this mean the lockdown is inafective? BBUUURRRNNNN , he beter lose his job. the guy said you caleld one and then called it off and now 30 people are dead i like that reporter

[Loki]

So is "Blacksburg" going to be the new "Columbine"? It still hasn't really set in that something like this could happen....

[brisknfade]

This was all my Psych class was talking about today. Insane. What drives people to do this kind of thing?

[Dano]

+1, toll now sits at 33. I'm listening to the VA TECH press conference right now. It's very interesting, I can see and understand views from both sides, but I hate how the media makes everyone the bad guy, even when common sense prevails.

-Dan

[corey240]

see they said he was looking fro his gf, so if she didnt get killed then she will get alot of answers figured out. he says they had that building locked down with armed gaurds around the building. so why didnt they get the guy when he went from one sid eof campus to the other?

[corey240]

also, that im system they use is very fast, i will give them that. when i was in school last. all schools have them. its an im system thats linked to all comps in the school. so if they sent the message as fast as they say they did then the students would have known what was going on instantly, the emails wouldnt work too well.

[C-Kwik]

Just watched the press conference. It's sad to me that many members of the media are turning this into a critique of the handling of the situation while the dead bodies are still warm. This is not the time. Neither for the media or us. We have plenty of time to reflect on how to improve any institution's response to situations like this. Right now, we should be focused on reaching out to those directly affected by this and making sure there is no longer an immediate threat.

My condolances go out to anyone that is affected by this.

[AZhitman]

^ Amen. Thank you.

[IowaRB240SX]

Just watched the press conference. It's sad to me that many members of the media are turning this into a critique of the handling of the situation while the dead bodies are still warm. This is not the time. Neither for the media or us. We have plenty of time to reflect on how to improve any institution's response to situations like this. Right now, we should be focused on reaching out to those directly affected by this and making sure there is no longer an immediate threat.

My condolances go out to anyone that is affected by this.

Agreed, but if you've lived in the US for any amount of time, you know that there will always have to be a "bad guy". SOme people can't sleep until they have someone to blame. And the media won't sleep until everyone knows who that is. SAD, but the truth.

To bad the idiot that did this died, it would be more fun to make him suffer. Too bad our judicial system is so weak. I am a firm believer in "An eye for an eye" philosophy. It would have been nice to put 33 non lethal bullets into this guy. Then let each one of the affected take a shot at kicking him in the balls. Then, let him die slowly.

[brisknfade]

Agreed, but if you've lived in the US for any amount of time, you know that there will always have to be a "bad guy". SOme people can't sleep until they have someone to blame. And the media won't sleep until everyone knows who that is. SAD, but the truth.

They already have a bad guy. The guy that commited the murders. How much more bad guy can you get then that? When you start trying to spread the blame around like that though is not cool.

[IowaRB240SX]

I agree, but that is the American way. Not that we have to like it, but there are jackasses that live for such things. You can't blame a dead guy and expect him to take the reponsibility, he lost that when he lost his life.

[brisknfade]

Yup, your right there.

Oh well, my wishes goes out to anybody here and all who has been affected by this.

[IowaRB240SX]

I do feel grief for those that died and their families and loved ones. But what really makes me sick is the cowardess of this man. Preying on the un-expecting. The unarmed. The innocent that only wanted to go to class and educate themselves. He is a weak and cowardly as the towel head terrorists of the middle east. No guts to fight a fair fight. No one that calls themself "American" or a "MAN" would do such things.

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

do you guys realize that every time something like this happens the world points at us and laughs...yet we do nothing to prevent the next tragedy? the funny thing (morbid i know) is that there isn't a damn thing we can do about it anyways. even if the majority of the population rises to their feet and decides that maybe the rest of the world could be right in gun control it would be impossible to change. and that is unlikely as we have been a gun society from day one and no amount of hippy protests, rabble raising, political shifts, and ****ing rebellions are going to change that. so what can we do, the stunned public asks? grin and bear it (or grieve and bear it as the most recent case may be) and continue on with our lives in absolute fear of the inevitable.

adrian houston, a friend since 2nd grade was on campus when this occurred and yet he is not grieving....he is angry. his way of dealing with this is the same as mine, and many more out there...we are too ****ing tired of this...so so tired.

[IowaRB240SX]

Here we go on the gun control thing again. When are you people that are for gun control going to realize that no matter what the laws say, if someone has criminal intent and really wants a gun, there are so many ways they can get one that you will never stop them? You could ban every gun ever made out of the hands of civilians, but the guns would still be out there. Then, the criminals wouldl have ALL the power to do what the want because they would know that behind that door the only way ther would be a gun to stop them is if there was a law official on the other side.

It's not about gun control, it's about people control. Make people more afraid of the consequeces of their actions. In some contries you lose a hand for stealing, rapists are hung. Here, we give them a place to live while the taxpayers pay to keep them warm, fed, and with cable TV. When I was growing up the students were afraid of the teachers, today it's the other way around. All because a bunch of P U S S Y activists thought is was wrong to spank a child. Parents today don't take responsibility for their kids becasue they can't. So now you have a bunch of whining, spoiled, undisciplined brats thinking they can do what ever they want. Because they've been allowed to. Beat you kids ***! It's the best thing you can do for them. Teach them that their is someone else out there for them so when they get dumped they don't go on a rampage. We also need to get control of our economic system. People are so afraid, and so close to, losing their homes that if they aren't getting paid enough the emotional stress makes them wack out.

[corey240]

what country is it that the police dont even have guns? or only police can have guns? was it japan?

[92Maxin]

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what country is it that the police dont even have guns? or only police can have guns? was it japan?

Several countries are like that Japan being one and im sure places like England and such have the same law. In some places only certain levels of law inforcement are allowed to carry guns. Everyone else gets clubs and pepper spray.

[Leash]

what country is it that the police dont even have guns? or only police can have guns? was it japan?

I think is was Australia. I believe their motto was "Don't be like the Americans"

I'm just shocked about all this. You work all your life to grow and then its easily taken away by a kid.

[Eikon]

Once again folks... this is not a discussion about Gun Control!

Stop talking about it.

[brisknfade]

I think in england cops only carry around billy clubs. Don't know for sure though.

the funny thing (morbid i know) is that there isn't a damn thing we can do about it anyways.

That's the question though. What can society do to prevent this from happening? Well, like some you could say that guns are the problem. That's not a good point to bring up at all for obvious reasons. The only way to get rid of guns is mystically erasing them all from existence. Not possible, so im not even going there.

What can be done though? I sadly believe that incidents like this won't go away anytime during my lifetime.

[Dattebayo]

Once again, too close to home. I really need to move outta here to someplace warm where people don't get crazy.

[nsrZ32]

What a tragedy

All involved are in my prayers

[IowaRB240SX]

Once again folks... this is not a discussion about Gun Control!

Stop talking about it.

You are right, it's not. But guns were used so the topic will come up. That's inevitable. In all, we are trying discuss our feelings on the matter, and to debate how to prevent this. And a good debate has to be argued from both sides. I am not bringing up gun control, but I will defend my side of the issue. Everyone has an opinion, and should be free to discuss/defend it. But we are all too wiling to blame the weapon, not so much the guy holding it. Would you all be yelling "hair dryer control" if he would have thrown an energized one into the pool killing 33?

Sure, we all see things differently, but we all agree on one thing, this was a tragedy that should have been prevented, or at least de-escilated.
Modified by IowaRB240SX at 4:32 AM 4/17/2007

[bone_stock_240]

they really need to toughen up on gun crimes. Like mandatory 25 year sentence if a gun is involved, even if it is unloaded and never actually weilded, as long as it is in their possession.

I really hope that noone else succumbs to their injuries. This ******* destroyed the lives of many hundreds of people. He deserves alot worse than the death that he got.

[LayNLow240]

even if we did have tougher penalties, it wouldnt have stopped the guy from doing what he did. he offed himself, so nothing would have worked to prevent him from doing it.

it deeply saddens me to hear about this tragedy. my condolences go out to all families involved.

[page02wrx]

they really need to toughen up on gun crimes. Like mandatory 25 year sentence if a gun is involved, even if it is unloaded and never actually weilded, as long as it is in their possession.

I really hope that noone else succumbs to their injuries. This ******* destroyed the lives of many hundreds of people. He deserves alot worse than the death that he got.

Years in jail mean nothing to a person who plans on killing himself after shooting others...

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and families.

[partymonster 975]

This is so horrible, 31-32 people gone, that's just insane. I cant even imagine what the family's r going through.I was driving home today and some guy one the radio asked the DJ to play "let the bodies hit the floor" cuz of what happened. The DJ flipped out on the guy, either way, very sad.

[Looneybomber]

even if we did have tougher penalties, it wouldnt have stopped the guy from doing what he did. he offed himself, so nothing would have worked to prevent him from doing it.

Quite right. No gun control laws could have prevented this from happening. The shooter was willing to pay the ultimate price by commiting suicide, so how would stiffer penalties stopped him. Had the school locked down the death toll might have been less, but there still would have been quite a bit of blood shed.

We've always been a violent society with our duels in the old west and gangster mobs at the turn of the century. A censorship of the media will not help, a ban of guns will not help. We are never going to change. It's very sad, but I do not want to move out of this country so being murdered is an inherent danger I am willing to accept.