2020 Rogue - AEB (Automatic Emergency Braking) ?

[VStar650CL]

This sounds awfully much like two different issues, an overheating cam (now fixed) coupled with a mis-calibrated radar. Considering the recalibration is labor only, I'd howl at Nissan Consumer Affairs and light a fire under them. Three visits for the same issue is lemon/buyback territory, not that I'm suggesting you need to go that far. But if this particular dealer would rather provoke you than get two hours' labor approved upstairs, they deserve a spanking and ought to be ashamed of themselves.

[VStar650CL]

PS - If you're anyplace within driving distance of Little Rock, AR, PM me and bring it to our dealership, I'll personally see that it gets calibrated and properly checked out.

[techwizard09]

The last visit to the dealership they told me they didn't know what the problem was and that Nissan Tech Line said a "reset" of past codes is a proper fix. They then told me I should goto a different dealership because I was taking up to much of their time and they weren't getting paid. I argued with them that they never actually fixed my car or properly diagnose it and they could care less. I brought up the issues that the previous Rogues had with this system and the technical bulletins, etc and they said my car is a 2020 so it doesn't apply to me; even though it can be similar.

In regards to Nissan Consumer affairs, my initial call was great with the representative that told me all they could and should do. Everything changed when I was assigned an advisor to my case. The first thing out of his mouth was Nissan wasn't in the position to buy back my car. I told him I was looking to get my car fixed and explained to him everything that went on. He just basically said to me deal with the dealership and we'll see what happens. After my next visit with the dealership I called the advisor back and they said to me the same thing Nissan still wasn't in the position to buy my car back. I said why do you keep bringing that back up to me when I am simply asking for you to fix my car? They repeated what they said that I need to deal with the dealership. I brought up the fact that they want to start charging me and they said well all Nissan service centers are independent owned and operated and they are allowed to charge a diagnostic fee if they can't reproduce the problem. I said so basically I have a new car, nobody fixed the problem and now I am responsible to pay all these fees when you guys won't properly fix my car? And that I have to hope that one day when my car is at the shop the code is active and you can fix it. And the answer was yes.

Thank you for your offer, but I am nowhere close to AR. I do greatly appericate everything you have told me. I just wish I knew how to get this code active or know where to go from here to get my car fixed.

[VStar650CL]

I honestly can't imagine why they're hassling you so badly over a 2-hour labor operation, but if that's the only dealer you can get to, it sounds like you're SOL getting a warranty radar calibration. They don't even sound knowledgeable about the system if they think you can make an appointment to "show the code", so letting them do the calibration might be a fool's errand anyway. Two possibilities if you need to have it done out-of-pocket; an Infiniti dealer will have the same equipment but can't do warranty work, or a lot of high-end body shops have calibration equipment these days. I'm so sorry they're treating you this way.

[techwizard09]

I can go to another dealership, I was just going to this one because it was the closest to me. If I would go to a different dealership would I be starting over at step 1 or is it up to the dealership to actually decide what they want to do.

Also do you know if it's possible to get the information that was passed off to Nissan Tech Line and to see what Nissan told them to do? And if I "now" have a case with them, would they just tell them to clear the code again, or would they tell them to do step 2 now (diagnose the car/re-calibrate the radar)?

I was trying to stay with Nissan only working on my car because I am already having so much trouble. Now I don't want/need them to say I brought it else where and something will be voided.

Sorry for all the questions =)

[VStar650CL]

What Nissan told you about dealerships being independent entities is true, so a lot depends on the management and their attitude toward the Service Dept. In changing dealerships over an issue like this one, it will help if you get some routine service done and let them know you're not particularly happy with the place you bought it. The prospect of making a regular service customer by treating you well will be a good incentive. Officially there should be no difference between a "regular" and someone who only shows up for warranty work, but in the real world, most SM's will go far out of their way to make a regular oil-change customer happy. Tell the new dealership the truth, that you love the car and want to treat it right, but this one stupid issue is making you nuts. They'll get a summary of work done on your car under warranty from the Nissan dbase (Service Com), so they'll see that there's a resolved complaint with the Lane Cam and a history of unresolved radar complaints along with a CA case. They won't get a copy of the TechLine case info unless they specifically request it (I can't get that for you either, at least until it's archived in the TechLine database). You should tell them straight up that you believe the radar was mis-calibrated from the factory and that all you're requesting is a recalibration, not an expensive circus of parts-changing. Make it clear that you're aware of "weather issues" and that this isn't one. If they're knowledgeable about the radar system, they'll already know that "blockage errors" clear themselves every time the key is cycled and that having a "current" DTC is not useful in evaluating the problem. There will be other data in the system such as "causes of auto-cancel" that can clue them to a likely miscalibration and be used in obtaining warranty authorization if needed. They shouldn't actually need it, recalibration is a routine first step when a radar experiences repeated "no-blockage blockages". That's why I'm so puzzled that the other dealership is making a federal case about doing one.

Please don't apologize for questions. My Dad used to say that the only stupid one was the one you didn't ask and it bit your butt. He was right, and understanding how things work will be helpful, if not critical, in getting your problem resolved. I'm happy to help with that.

[Rogue One]

I was trying to stay with Nissan only working on my car because I am already having so much trouble. Now I don't want/need them to say I brought it else where and something will be voided.

Sorry for all the questions =)

Having work done at two different Nissan dealerships will NOT void your warranty. The 2nd dealership can pull up your work history, so you wouldn't be starting at square one. However, I would avoid badmouthing your local shop to the new one. Simply say that you're dissatisfied with the level of service you've received previously.

[VStar650CL]

Having work done at two different Nissan dealerships will NOT void your warranty.

I think he meant having work done at Infiniti or a local shop instead of Nissan. That will only void a warranty if work was done provably wrong by the non-Nissan shop, but since he has other Nissan dealerships to try first, that's the way to go.

[techwizard09]

With what you just said is what made me believe from day 1 that this dealership would take care of me. The reason I am saying this is because you would think since I am not far from this dealership and I am going to them for warranty work, that they would take care of this problem; and I would then come back only to this dealership for future service visits AND to purchase/lease my next car. But after my 2nd visit they pretty much told me to goto a different dealership because they have no idea how to fix my car and that I am taking up to much of their time. I only went back a 3rd time because Nissan Corporate told me to work with them.

Now do dealerships really care if you purchased/leased your car from them and if so would they take better care of you? And if that is the case am I better off speaking to the person I have dealt with to get my car from at the dealership -- who I have repeatedly gotten my cars and family members cars from (same person only).

As a customer am I allowed to get the information that was passed off to Tech Line and what Tech Line told them to do?

And correct I was replying to something that was posted above about bringing to non-nissan dealership to get it fixed out-of-pocket. I am trying to keep everything with Nissan since I have the warranty and I don’t need them to try to pull anything on me like saying I went somewhere else. I also have no intentions to bad mouth the other dealership to the new dealership -- I just simply want my car fixed and that's all.

[VStar650CL]

But after my 2nd visit they pretty much told me to goto a different dealership because they have no idea how to fix my car and that I am taking up to much of their time.

As I said in the first sentence, a lot depends on whether the dealership management treats the Service Department as an annoyance or a valuable adjunct. Some are only interested in selling cars and do the bare minimum to maintain Nissan service standards, others treat it as what it really is, a gateway to future sales that deserves the same level of support and resources as the front drive. It can be hard to tell which is which until a "hard case" like this comes into your car's life.

if that is the case am I better off speaking to the person I have dealt with to get my car from at the dealership -- who I have repeatedly gotten my cars and family members cars from (same person only).

That might well help. In dealerships that view the Service Department as second-class citizens, often things "jump" only when the GM or a senior salesman gets involved and says, "Quit f'ing around and fix this."

As a customer am I allowed to get the information that was passed off to Tech Line and what Tech Line told them to do?

Allowed but not entitled. If the dealership wants to hide it as "confidential" (and it sounds like this one probably will), they can hide it.

[datechboss101]

In regards to Nissan Consumer affairs, my initial call was great with the representative that told me all they could and should do. Everything changed when I was assigned an advisor to my case. The first thing out of his mouth was Nissan wasn't in the position to buy back my car. I told him I was looking to get my car fixed and explained to him everything that went on. He just basically said to me deal with the dealership and we'll see what happens. After my next visit with the dealership I called the advisor back and they said to me the same thing Nissan still wasn't in the position to buy my car back. I said why do you keep bringing that back up to me when I am simply asking for you to fix my car? They repeated what they said that I need to deal with the dealership. I brought up the fact that they want to start charging me and they said well all Nissan service centers are independent owned and operated and they are allowed to charge a diagnostic fee if they can't reproduce the problem. I said so basically I have a new car, nobody fixed the problem and now I am responsible to pay all these fees when you guys won't properly fix my car? And that I have to hope that one day when my car is at the shop the code is active and you can fix it. And the answer was yes.
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Unfortunately, Nissan doesn't uphold their warranty. And I have personally experienced it myself on my 2019 Rogue multiple times. Most Nissan dealerships treats their service customers as fourth-class citizens, and it shows. One of the many reasons I dislike Nissan (Hate is a strong word, but if no ones feelings would get hurt, then I'd use that word). Your best bet is to sell that Rogue if YOU have to pay it OTP; shouldn't make sense to pay a diagnostic fee for a new vehicle that still has the new car warranty on it. If anything, get a lawyer involved because Nissan doesn't want to honor the new car warranty.

[techwizard09]

I thought with everything going on out there that dealership would change how they act towards customers. Due to covid, the service center and dealership were closed for a few months. I thought since they lost a lot of money that retaining and/or picking up new customers would be a priority. When the service advisor told me to go to a different dealership that the one I got the car from would treat me better; I thought they were joking with me.

I will call the person I got my car from on Monday and see if they can do anything. They are a manager at the dealership and have been working there for over 30+ years. My family has only used them for the past cars we have gotten from Nissan.

Do I have to request a copy from the dealership that made the case with Tech Line or is there somewhere else I can get that information?

[techwizard09]

Unfortunately, Nissan doesn't uphold their warranty. And I have personally experienced it myself on my 2019 Rogue multiple times. Most Nissan dealerships treats their service customers as fourth-class citizens, and it shows. One of the many reasons I dislike Nissan (Hate is a strong word, but if no ones feelings would get hurt, then I'd use that word). Your best bet is to sell that Rogue if YOU have to pay it OTP; shouldn't make sense to pay a diagnostic fee for a new vehicle that still has the new car warranty on it. If anything, get a lawyer involved because Nissan doesn't want to honor the new car warranty.

It makes no sense of how this is all dealt with because it plays into a factor of purchasing/leasing the next vehicle – or telling friends/family/etc when they go to purchase/lease their cars. In my situation, I leased my car so I am stuck with it for next 3 years. I was trying to exhaust all my options before getting a lawyer involved.

[VStar650CL]

Do I have to request a copy from the dealership that made the case with Tech Line or is there somewhere else I can get that information?

You can try CA if the dealership refuses, but if they won't provide it you're probably SOL. Worth trying, though. I have a feeling the technician is under the misimpression that it's still a cam issue and not radar, so it's being treated like a "comeback". If so, they're probably providing TechLine the wrong symptomology to be able to diagnose it.

[datechboss101]

Unfortunately, Nissan doesn't uphold their warranty. And I have personally experienced it myself on my 2019 Rogue multiple times. Most Nissan dealerships treats their service customers as fourth-class citizens, and it shows. One of the many reasons I dislike Nissan (Hate is a strong word, but if no ones feelings would get hurt, then I'd use that word). Your best bet is to sell that Rogue if YOU have to pay it OTP; shouldn't make sense to pay a diagnostic fee for a new vehicle that still has the new car warranty on it. If anything, get a lawyer involved because Nissan doesn't want to honor the new car warranty.

It makes no sense of how this is all dealt with because it plays into a factor of purchasing/leasing the next vehicle – or telling friends/family/etc when they go to purchase/lease their cars. In my situation, I leased my car so I am stuck with it for next 3 years. I was trying to exhaust all my options before getting a lawyer involved.

Well, it proves to you that Nissan doesn't want to honor their warranty. And paying out of pocket for repairs on a lease NEVER makes sense, otherwise what's the point of having the lease. Your best bet here is to get out of the lease. You are not stuck for it for the next 3 years, and that's a misconception that many have. Many dealers will buy your lease out or you can transfer your lease on swapalease.com . Dave Ramsey talked about leases and getting out of them. If this issue is deemed a serious safety concern for you and Nissan will not warranty it for you, go back to the dealer you leased the Rogue from and have them take it back (similar to a buy back, but in lease terms). Then go to the nearest Toyota or Honda dealer and lease the CRV or Rav4.

[techwizard09]

Well, it proves to you that Nissan doesn't want to honor their warranty. And paying out of pocket for repairs on a lease NEVER makes sense, otherwise what's the point of having the lease. Your best bet here is to get out of the lease. You are not stuck for it for the next 3 years, and that's a misconception that many have. Many dealers will buy your lease out or you can transfer your lease on swapalease.com . Dave Ramsey talked about leases and getting out of them. If this issue is deemed a serious safety concern for you and Nissan will not warranty it for you, go back to the dealer you leased the Rogue from and have them take it back (similar to a buy back, but in lease terms). Then go to the nearest Toyota or Honda dealer and lease the CRV or Rav4.

Well see the charge wasn't even to fix my car - it was ONLY to "diagnose" the problem and NOT fix the car. All they did was scan the car, clear past codes and turn the car back on. Since the code didn't re-occur within that time frame they said Nissan wasn't going to pay them to do what they did so they want to charge me the fee. (Even though they replaced a part and the problem still exists).

[VStar650CL]

All they did was scan the car, clear past codes and turn the car back on.

Like I said, diagnosis of false radar blockages can't be done that way. If they don't know better, then they're incompetent. If they do know better, then they simply don't want to fix your car. Either way, it speaks very, very badly about that dealership.

[datechboss101]

All they did was scan the car, clear past codes and turn the car back on.

Like I said, diagnosis of false radar blockages can't be done that way. If they don't know better, then they're incompetent. If they do know better, then they simply don't want to fix your car. Either way, it speaks very, very badly about that dealership.

There are ONLY a few Nissan dealerships that actually cares about their service customers, and from the looks of it, this said dealership that Techwizard09 is going to definitely doesn't want to fix this under warranty, but definitely, they will love to fix it once its out of warranty.

Techwizard09, if you really like this vehicle, then just drive it without turning on the horrible system. If this is really a serious concern for you even though its a lease, just get rid of it. From what all your statements are telling is that the crappy nissan dealerships near you are dishonest and don't want to fix your car under-warranty. It seems repetitive, but unless if you take action and push them to fix it, your best bet it to keep quite and then blast them on BBB complaint section and/or trade the vehicle in for Honda or Toyota. I have not gone this far yet with my 2019 Rogue, but eventually the time will come, but I will use this vehicle (our 2019 Rogue) as a trade in for my parents surprise vehicle.

[techwizard09]

Like I said, diagnosis of false radar blockages can't be done that way. If they don't know better, then they're incompetent. If they do know better, then they simply don't want to fix your car. Either way, it speaks very, very badly about that dealership.

I completely understand this, and I repeated that to the Service Advisor every time I spoke to them. There response to me was they only go by the codes the car gives and they don't actually look at anything else. They said that Nissan will only pay them based on Codes and what they were told to do and that's it. I asked to speak to the Mechanic that worked on my car and he refused -- he was quite mad that I would even want to talk to him.

[techwizard09]

There are ONLY a few Nissan dealerships that actually cares about their service customers, and from the looks of it, this said dealership that Techwizard09 is going to definitely doesn't want to fix this under warranty, but definitely, they will love to fix it once its out of warranty.

Techwizard09, if you really like this vehicle, then just drive it without turning on the horrible system. If this is really a serious concern for you even though its a lease, just get rid of it. From what all your statements are telling is that the crappy nissan dealerships near you are dishonest and don't want to fix your car under-warranty. It seems repetitive, but unless if you take action and push them to fix it, your best bet it to keep quite and then blast them on BBB complaint section and/or trade the vehicle in for Honda or Toyota. I have not gone this far yet with my 2019 Rogue, but eventually the time will come, but I will use this vehicle (our 2019 Rogue) as a trade in for my parents surprise vehicle.

I don't think I mentioned this in my previous posts. But I am not even engaging the system when this malfunctions comes on. I can be driving normally on the street and it will come on randomly; or the car will be in a parking lot/my house and the malfunction will come on.

[datechboss101]

There are ONLY a few Nissan dealerships that actually cares about their service customers, and from the looks of it, this said dealership that Techwizard09 is going to definitely doesn't want to fix this under warranty, but definitely, they will love to fix it once its out of warranty.

Techwizard09, if you really like this vehicle, then just drive it without turning on the horrible system. If this is really a serious concern for you even though its a lease, just get rid of it. From what all your statements are telling is that the crappy nissan dealerships near you are dishonest and don't want to fix your car under-warranty. It seems repetitive, but unless if you take action and push them to fix it, your best bet it to keep quite and then blast them on BBB complaint section and/or trade the vehicle in for Honda or Toyota. I have not gone this far yet with my 2019 Rogue, but eventually the time will come, but I will use this vehicle (our 2019 Rogue) as a trade in for my parents surprise vehicle.

I don't think I mentioned this in my previous posts. But I am not even engaging the system when this malfunctions comes on. I can be driving normally on the street and it will come on randomly; or the car will be in a parking lot/my house and the malfunction will come on.

Take the latter part of my advice. Be done with this POS garbage, and move on. Clearly, this shows and proves my point that Nissan's quality control (or lack of) has dropped between MY 2016 to MY 2019 and 2020. Also, whatever the dealer is saying is a bunch of BS. Again, another BS Nissan excuse to not fix your vehicle under warranty. Also, report this to the National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration about this issue, and report the dealer and Nissan to the Better Business Bureau. Both will go after Nissan.

[techwizard09]

Take the latter part of my advice. Be done with this POS garbage, and move on. Clearly, this shows and proves my point that Nissan's quality control (or lack of) has dropped between MY 2016 to MY 2019 and 2020. Also, whatever the dealer is saying is a bunch of BS. Again, another BS Nissan excuse to not fix your vehicle under warranty. Also, report this to the National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration about this issue, and report the dealer and Nissan to the Better Business Bureau. Both will go after Nissan.

I had a previous version before this current one and loved it. Had zero problems with it; only had to do oil changes and that's it. That's what kept my mind on getting the one I have now. I am regretting now that I opted to get the one with that included the pro-pilot system because I wouldn't be dealing with all this.

I don't know if the dealership is treating me this way because I have reached the point which was mentioned earlier in this thread of falling under the Lemon category. I have a feeling they don't want to try to fix the car again because then we enter that terrority.

[datechboss101]

Take the latter part of my advice. Be done with this POS garbage, and move on. Clearly, this shows and proves my point that Nissan's quality control (or lack of) has dropped between MY 2016 to MY 2019 and 2020. Also, whatever the dealer is saying is a bunch of BS. Again, another BS Nissan excuse to not fix your vehicle under warranty. Also, report this to the National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration about this issue, and report the dealer and Nissan to the Better Business Bureau. Both will go after Nissan.

I had a previous version before this current one and loved it. Had zero problems with it; only had to do oil changes and that's it. That's what kept my mind on getting the one I have now. I am regretting now that I opted to get the one with that included the pro-pilot system because I wouldn't be dealing with all this.

I don't know if the dealership is treating me this way because I have reached the point which was mentioned earlier in this thread of falling under the Lemon category. I have a feeling they don't want to try to fix the car again because then we enter that terrority.

I feel you man. Same thing with me. I drove a 16 and when our 18 Kicks was totaled, we decided to get the 19 Rogue with the pro pilot assist since my 16 was literally trouble free. However, my parents doesn't use this dang feature, so I feel they wasted money on something they don't use. Our 19 has soo many electrical issues and problems relating to the electrics of the vehicle, that I was getting the run arounds from two different Nissan dealership. And for the first time, we were buttf***** by a Nissan dealer for BMW prices for OC and TR; OTD was $100. Not sure how my dad will do OC with Nissan without me interfering and using coupons and lowering their prices left and right. I don't even need to tell Honda to apply coupons, and they will automatically apply them for me. For nissan, I have be all up in their rear end to get things done.

For my problems, Nissan and its dealers were saying its within normal operation; but more like lack of quality control and quality dropped off Mt Everest between my 2016 Rogue and our 2019 Rogue, with Nissan being stubborn as heck to even come up and honor their warranty for POOR workmanship quality! Worse of all, they kept me waiting for 3.5 hours to figure out how to address my issue but they haven't addressed it completely at all.

And I have been saying Geico (yes, an insurance company of all things) fixed my FEB system issue. It literally shows Nissan doesn't give a **** about their products support and customers.

[techwizard09]

I feel you man. Same thing with me. I drove a 16 and when our 18 Kicks was totaled, we decided to get the 19 Rogue with the pro pilot assist since my 16 was literally trouble free. However, my parents doesn't use this dang feature, so I feel they wasted money on something they don't use. Our 19 has soo many electrical issues and problems relating to the electrics of the vehicle, that I was getting the run arounds from two different Nissan dealership. And for the first time, we were buttf***** by a Nissan dealer for BMW prices for OC and TR; OTD was $100. Not sure how my dad will do OC with Nissan without me interfering and using coupons and lowering their prices left and right. I don't even need to tell Honda to apply coupons, and they will automatically apply them for me. For nissan, I have be all up in their rear end to get things done.

For my problems, Nissan and its dealers were saying its within normal operation; but more like lack of quality control and quality dropped off Mt Everest between my 2016 Rogue and our 2019 Rogue, with Nissan being stubborn as heck to even come up and honor their warranty for POOR workmanship quality! Worse of all, they kept me waiting for 3.5 hours to figure out how to address my issue but they haven't addressed it completely at all.

And I have been saying Geico (yes, an insurance company of all things) fixed my FEB system issue. It literally shows Nissan doesn't give a **** about their products support and customers.

I had trouble when I was getting this car due to covid and dealerships being closed. Alot of the dealerships were actually closed in my state when other states were open. When they finally opened up pricing was really bad all over since the dealerships lost so much money. I wasn't looking into getting the rogue with propilot -- but the one model I got with the package it was included with the other features.

What electrical issues are you having with your rogue? And how did Geico fix your feb system?

[datechboss101]

I feel you man. Same thing with me. I drove a 16 and when our 18 Kicks was totaled, we decided to get the 19 Rogue with the pro pilot assist since my 16 was literally trouble free. However, my parents doesn't use this dang feature, so I feel they wasted money on something they don't use. Our 19 has soo many electrical issues and problems relating to the electrics of the vehicle, that I was getting the run arounds from two different Nissan dealership. And for the first time, we were buttf***** by a Nissan dealer for BMW prices for OC and TR; OTD was $100. Not sure how my dad will do OC with Nissan without me interfering and using coupons and lowering their prices left and right. I don't even need to tell Honda to apply coupons, and they will automatically apply them for me. For nissan, I have be all up in their rear end to get things done.

For my problems, Nissan and its dealers were saying its within normal operation; but more like lack of quality control and quality dropped off Mt Everest between my 2016 Rogue and our 2019 Rogue, with Nissan being stubborn as heck to even come up and honor their warranty for POOR workmanship quality! Worse of all, they kept me waiting for 3.5 hours to figure out how to address my issue but they haven't addressed it completely at all.

And I have been saying Geico (yes, an insurance company of all things) fixed my FEB system issue. It literally shows Nissan doesn't give a **** about their products support and customers.

I had trouble when I was getting this car due to covid and dealerships being closed. Alot of the dealerships were actually closed in my state when other states were open. When they finally opened up pricing was really bad all over since the dealerships lost so much money. I wasn't looking into getting the rogue with propilot -- but the one model I got with the package it was included with the other features.

What electrical issues are you having with your rogue? And how did Geico fix your feb system?

Lagging backup camera system (that is usually electrical related, never had this issue on the 16 Rogue and 18 Kicks, or on our 05 Odyssey and my 17 MDX), audio skips out half the time (I literally bought a NEW PHONE because of this dang car!), super sensitive sensors (even on normal sensitivity), Pro Pilot assist slams on the brakes for deadly reasons (I still don't agree with Vstar's reasoning), FEB doesn't detect an object in front of it, etc. But at least the Navi doesn't crash like on my 2016 Rogue. How Geico fixed my FEB issue is simple... Just get into an accident (make sure you are not at fault though, and I do NOT encourage accidents or collisions at all) and have insurance replace your front bumper (I almost crashed our 19 just after of 400 miles of ownership, because the stupid FEB system didn't detect a BMW; tried few other times, and sure enough, the POS system from factory failed, and Nissan was stubborn to replace it).

Oh, and I forgot... It started to shift hard one time with only 10k miles on the odo and I use sport mode on both Rogues, only got hard shifts on the 19... so yeah, quality downhill.

Even with the amount of abuse I did to my 2016 Rogue, it NEVER gave any issues or problems. And when I wrecked it, it saved me and I came out without bruises.

[Rogue One]

What electrical issues are you having with your rogue?

Please stay on topic. You're welcome to start a new thread for any electrical problems you may be having that are not related to the Emergency Braking system.

[techwizard09]

Please stay on topic. You're welcome to start a new thread for any electrical problems you may be having that are not related to the Emergency Braking system.

Sorry for going off topic. But can electrical issues cause problems with these major systems that are described in his post and my previous posts be all linked together?

[datechboss101]

What electrical issues are you having with your rogue?

Please stay on topic. You're welcome to start a new thread for any electrical problems you may be having that are not related to the Emergency Braking system.

Our apologizes for going a bit off topic here, but we are trying to understand to the best on why the heck Nissan won't help him out under warranty. That's all lol.

[VStar650CL]

If anybody thinks finding a competent and cooperative dealer isn't possible or won't make a difference, read this:

https://www.altimaforums.net/threads/20 ... ost-545114

[casperfun]

Thank god I got a basic simplistic first generation bubble rogue that gets me from point A to B. All these electronic gizmos in the modern rogue seems like a pain in the butt. Mind you, I had to breeze though these posts, and it gave me a headache that I almost forgot about how bad the CVT's, are, were, or hopefully not anymore.

Thank god I dont have all that technological mumbo jumbo in my old rogue, because my ocd would go bonkers if any of these gadgets went haywire. That's the scary part of getting a car that's new, because I hope to god nothing is wrong in the beginning of owning a new car. The last thing I want is regret.

Warranty or not, I would hate to get a new car that needs to be fixed or worse, ; one where a dealership has no answers to a problem that may arise.

Honestly, if a car automatically slams on the brakes for you, that's such a buzzkill and annoying as hell, I would probably sell it for a loss. I barely tolerated the bad hesitation or shudder while pressing the gas when that used to happen, but slamming brakes would be a bye, bye, and me throwing in the towel. I'm to old to live with that crap.

I feel your pain. Just dump that lemon to carmax or carvana. If you can get a rogue without all those driving aides, all the better!